Why does anyone care, VALOR MEANS NOTHING. You could get it in horribly broken illum or you can afk your way through a thousand WZ. Yes Illum was way faster, but either way it's not like valor actually means anything. Useless stat to track, might as well just keep a running tally of how long I spend in a WZ or on Illum essentially the same thing

....no

I only read the first few pages but hopefully the devs will finally listen and do something...ANYTHING, to fix the pvp. Then I can resub so my subscription doesn't run out in a few days.

My biggest problem with the valor system is it doesn't mean anything to me personally. Some kid was spouting off about his high valor level and everyone was like pretty cool. Then I happen to be in a WZ with same kid twice in one night and he's just afking through WZ. Valor is a pointless stat that is the epitomy of grinding, and once you do get up to max level you get a cool title that all the afkers already have and that tells nothing about your pvp abilities. Maybe it's just me but a PvP stat should reflect your PvP abilites (dmg you do, heals you do, objectives you capture/defend) not how much time you sat in a WZ regardless of what you were doing.

The only case in which this is fun was being a lower level taking on 50's. I get no sense of accomplishment beating a lower level toon at 50. Stat bolstered or not the lack of moves alone is enough to make you unstoppable comparatively. Being a level 50 and going against level 20's and 30's god forbid a 10 or so is not exciting, challenging, or satisfying.

I understand why you want to do this, but you're missing the fact that valor essentially means nothing. If valor couldn't be earned by afking through a WZ then this might be worthwhile. But all this would do is increase the amount of afkers in WZ. If you want to fix the system another one based on kills and objectives, not just being in the vicinity of stuff going, would need to be implemented. Again I understand what you're saying, but to what end? The pvp system as a whole needs to be rebuilt, not just little pieces here and there.

I keep hearing fastest growing MMO ever. Well that's easy to do when you force people to subscribe before you give them the free month they were promised. I'll be interested to see how fast it's numbers decline in this next week now that all the preorder people's free month is running out.

So yes let's be quiet about it and not say anything. Yes sarcasm isn't necessarily helpful, but when it's gotten to that point maybe BW will start taking notice. You can only ask nicely for obvious mistakes to fixed so many times before you start being an ***.

When? Not as of a couple days ago.

Conclusion Derp indeed, this reply makes absolutely no sense to the OP. How about instead of blindly and irrationally attacking back you take what he has to say and actually think about it. Other the Imperial Fleet there's rarely over 80 people on a planet and even then those can be split into intances which are one of the worst ideas for an MMO ever.

lol just had to say that you're dumb, that is all.

Wrong, again see my previous post, just because you aren't as good as other people and apparently take forever to quest, do not ask that something get nerfed because you can't deal.

Yes let's nerf PvP rewards completely because this kid can't deal with the fact that someone is able to level faster than he was and chose to stay on a planet instead of moving on to the next ones....

If you don't like world PvP there's a simple move you can make, join a PvE server. I hate people joining PvP servers because they like to do instance PvP. That is not the reason to join a PvP server, you can do instanced PvP from any type of server. The reason you join a PvP server is for the world PvP. Unfortunately not only have most people forgotten this but also the devs.

You have to go by the cursor, as it appears player coords take the absolute value of the Y coord.

Unfortunately this game has been in production for years and years now. And it plays and feels like they didn't change or update a damn thing from that first day. I agree with OP, game feels old. Regardless of what anyone says, this game is missing a ton of features that MMO players have grown to know as basic functions of the game. This would've been acceptable back in the day when they started. But seeing all the advances that have happened in other MMO's should've sparked something in the devs minds. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that it'll all come together in a few months. But it just feels lackluster compared to all the hype they've been putting on us these past few years.

If your side controls one of the side nodes speeders appear up top to either far left or far right, that take you to the respective side the speeders are on.

Unfortunately, the person who does the most damage/healing gets the most valor, comms, and credits. Actually doing the objectives causes you to get less than you would if you just sat at the enemy spawn side with a group and pwned them. I'm not saying I agree, I definitely think this needs to be changed. Just saying that's why people don't focus on the objectives.

If you're smart you're not quitting unless you do it in the first few minutes, otherwise the whole thing was a waste of time as kills don't get you any sort of commendation in and of themselves. You can only get them by fully completing a WZ, just a broken PvP system in general.

Of course this was going to happen, it was one of the only things world pvp had going for it in SWTOR, as soon as the devs realized there was an actual possibility for world pvp they knew they had to squash it fast. Look for anything else that encourages world pvp to be taken out or nerfed too. I hear Illum is just a back and forth of groups of opposite faction members passing flags off since there's no reward for defending whatsoever (no bonuses for kills) so they just sit there and chain cap back and forth. PvP is broken as a whole and anything involved is getting dragged down unfortunately.

PvP in general is broken as a whole for this game, give it a couple months and hopefully they'll have it in good working condition.

Doesn't happen a lot in WoW, as WoW has rewards for defending, such as stat and xp boost while holding points. Opposed to, SWTOR which encourages you to let people take it, only so you can take it back.

Quit crying about gear and get better, I took a 50 jugg with 16k health the other day from full on my 32 sorc. The gear doesn't make them invincible. It just gives you a reason to complain to BioWare to cradle you some more.

Yea it takes way more skill to group up on people, even if groups are even in size, any good group will just focus fire people down, this takes zero skill if your group has any common sense. If you can beat another player by yourself, that in my opinion, takes far more skill.

Not even comparable, please don't be stupid.