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Idiotic argument, its not like that would happen EACH & EVERY time like it does now with pre mades, now and then, sure, but at least the rest of the matches the average player will have a chance. But bailing saves the wasted time of playing a totally one sided game.. a 15 minute penalty ? so what ? most queue times on my server are a lot longer than that anyway.

lol yea its skill being able to run in straight line while ignoring all cc's and damage done to you.. I wish I had that kind of skill.. but alas, I need to learn to play and suck less.

Ive seen it so many times, im stealthed on my assassin, see the ballholder near the flame spot, wait for it, and hit with my cc, nothing happens, ***, run up and overload to try and knock him off the platform, nothing.. he just keeps walking, hit him with slow, nothing, blow all my CD's and pretty much no damage done.. then he scores, turns around and kills a few people then repeat. Sure its usually a premade and he is getting healed, but still.. c'mon, is there any point to even trying ? Its unreal..

Agreed, but the pre made fanboys wont ever like it cause then they would finally have some competition instead of the cake walk they have now. You always see the same response from them, learn to play, suck less etc etc... I could be great at PVP, able to wipe the floor with each and every one of you one on one, but vrs a pre made you have no real chance, maybe now and then I can CC you on the flames in huttball or knock you off the edge of a ramp, but half of the time not because my CC's wont work on the ball holder. You say start your own pre made, great idea.. how bout you just play against other pre mades to keep it fair then ?

Seriously ??? you want the queues even longer than they already are ?? meh A simple fix would be to add an incentive to stay, as it is now when trying to do your daily there is ZERO incentive to stay if your up against a pre-made or you join the losing side.. and I mean ZERO. So why should we bother ? easier to quit and re-queue and hope for a better team. The dailies should be a points system, so many for a win, so many for a loss, so at least hanging around in a losing game would be worth something, instead of the time waste it is now. And as for the comments like "you just suck, learn to play etc etc" thats just moronic dribble.. It doesnt matter how well you play if your pugging it against a pre maid.. or most of your team just dont bother trying etc.. And that brings up another point, why even try ?? there is no real incentive to try and cap the ball in huttball, I was in a match the other day and scored 5 times in huttball, so we won 5 - 3, because I spent all my time trying to win the match I dint have many kills or damage, so at the end I next to no valor, commendations or anything, and not even a single vote, the votes when to the ones with the most kills/damage. So why bother ?

I agree kinda. Should they stop pre mades ? well it would be nice to make the games fair, but it wont ever happen. But yes, I just quit, when im trying to do my PVP dailies (or monthlies) and I come up against a pre made I quit, simple as that.. as there is absolutely ZERO incentive to stay.. So I quit, wait a min or two and queue up again... They need a points system for the dailies, 90 points needed for the daily, 30 for a win, 15 for a loss or something like that, least then it would be worth hanging around for the end. Unless you get one of those teams that will cap the ball 5 times then just gang up in the center farming.. had that more than a few times. meh

Agree with the OP 100% The WZ system is totally idiotic... I love the comments though, suck less, learn to play etc... how moronic. Doesnt matter how good you are if your team isnt up to it, or your up against a premade your screwed,. and screwed over and over is nothing unusual in this game. They need a points system, 90 points needed for your daily, 30 for a win, 15 for a loss.. So then it will worthwhile actually doing the PVP daily.

Amen ! Maybe some day in a galaxy far far away.....

Fix the daily system.. A simple fix, to complete the PVP daily you need 90 points, 30 points for a won game, 15 for a loss. Makes it worth sticking it out with a horrid pug group vrs a premade cause you at least get something for your trouble, so you wont get as many quiters.

The new bag system sux, I got a full set out of the random bag tokens in no time on my main, now on my alt after about 10 bags not one single drop.. so its worse if anything. Wirse than that is in Hutball etc when you just try to win the game by scoring with the ball instead of just random killing you get NO bonus at all ! Im pretty good at scoring in Hutball but I never bother anymore, the other day was the last straw for me, was in a game of hutball, we wont the game 5 - 3.. And I scored all 5 !! at the end I had like one medal and didnt even get any votes from the other players. I would have got more valor, XP etc if I didnt bother and just tried to kill everything i saw. So a hint for PVP, dont try to actually play the game, just kill ****.

Ok Im a level 38 Assassin on the sith side, I got to Hoth a few levels early and finished off all the quests I could find there, and now I have none at all except for the class quest that is too high to complete. I went back to the previous planet and finished off a couple of green quests that I could find. Other than that nothing ??? am I supposed to get to 40/42 by PVP only now ? fark I hope not, PVP sucks the big one, well maybe if I enjoyed Huttball over and over and over and over and over and over and over I might want to go that way, but I dont. Anyway, Are some levels on Hoth only avaible after a set level or something, cause this is BS Cheers

Why do people always say this ? wow had this much time bla bla How hard is it for any other company to leanr from WoW's good and bad points.. yet they just make the same mistakes right from the start.. There is just no excuse for such a shoddy game.

Seriously ? Cross server LFG ruins the happy people dance or some crap ? you guys are kidding right ? Yea id much rather sit there for an hour or 3 looking for a healer just to have the tank leave when you finally find one because hes sick of waiting for so long, then starting all over again.. Tell you what, give us a cross server LFG tool and those of you that think waiting around and looking for a group manually for a few hours is better can just not use it, hows that ? pretty f^%$&ing simple huh !? But the rest of us with jobs, families and a life outside of SWTOR would like the time saving and just the simple ease of a cross server LFG tool, because we dont have the time to spend hours just to find a group.

BS ! I had guildies go from lvl 25 or so valor to 60+ in 2 days not long after launch.. There were ways around it.. What gets me the most is I saw more than a few people with a valor level less than 60 with full battlemaster gear... HTF did that happen ? This game has the worst cheats/hacks/exploits etc ive ever seen.

So we have to put up with big slow downs between long loading times because someone was lazy ? Nice.

LOL The speeders in fleet hasnt bothered me, but I dont know why we can use them there and not ports/stations... It probably wouldnt be as painfull if EVERY port and station didnt look exactly the same

Agreed ! It just makes no sense to me, there is nothing to do in them, so why make as dawdle along through them over and over... I know its only a minor thing really, but its one of those things thats drives you more and more crazy as time goes on..

Nuff said.

Amen !

Yea and you Americans are the only people on the planet as well right ? Idiot. Early afternoon here in Australia, probably worse for the EU players. For you guys that it happens late at night for I can understand that it isnt a problem, and me being in a different time zone is my problem. But what I have issue with is the amount of downtimes that could waited a day or two to be done with the normal weekly downtime... Oh an emergency patch to fix one little problem that didnt bother most players ? yea I can really see the emergency there. The last week or two there has been what 4 or 5 downtimes that have made the entire day useless for me, and I pay for this ? meh.. End rant.. hurry up with the Australian servers and free transfers so I can fix the dodgy downtime issues and the horrid ghost town server issue's

I would be glad if it actually WAS something major ! lol

Id rather this than not being able to play AT ALL every two days ! But Ilum PVP is a joke, why the rush to fix it when 9 out 10 servers have an empty Ilum ??? Half the wins from WZ'a dont count for people, and they are full of glitches and exploits and still some hacks.. yet that hasnt been fixed at all ? so your example is flawed. And yes, fix it next week, its better than not at all or 2 or 3 days down time in a week, you forget that the down time in the main playing time for us in Aus and a lot in EU.

+1 I dont mind a down time for something worthy, but pointless silly little things like this ? meh. When there are so many more (imo) more important bugs, glitches, hacks and exploits that actually ruin the game that get left alone for so long ? meh Fair enough if its at 2am for you guys in the US, but 4pm here in Perth, Australia.. so a night gone to fix a problem that never I never even noticed on Ilum ?? What a joke.. Like the last emergency patch to fix some problem that a FEW people were having logging in SOMETIMES, I never had this problem, but because they screwed something they had to extend the downtime so long that I lost an entire day of play time for another little problem that I never even saw myself. Add to the fact that end game PVP and content is a joke, Im really wondering why I'm paying to play this when I get shafted so often.

Possible Ill grant you But it seems to be a theme that sorcs are the "bad OP guys" purely because of the fact that so many people have chosen them to play.. in 1v1 sorcs are so squishy and easy to kill if you even have half an idea of how to use you char, hence my 1st post. I have no problem going up against sorcs in 1v1 with my assassin.. sure they can put out a lot of DPS, but if you go straight for em they are squishy. yet you always get all these moaners saying sorcs need to be nerfed when IMO there are other classes out there that need nerfing A LOT more. meh. But its all rather pointless, the whole PVP system in this game is such a joke that picking on any one class is infantile Nerfs and buffs will hit every class im sure over time till sometime in the future we may have a more balanced and fun game.. just like any and every other MMO game shortly after launch it needs a lot of tweeking.