Sorry I just think this is a ridiculous statement. I'm on a European server, Progenitor EU RP-PVE and we normally have arounf 100 on fleet before midnight and down to 40ish after midnight. 10-20 on each planet is fairly normal. I have no problems getting a group, ever. Because i'm nto lazy. I formed a guild of like minded people and we're growing and having lots of fun. We run lots of FPs every night and i've personally never had to wait for more than a few minutes for a WZ (although this can get longer after midnight GMT (1am for most of Europe) which is to be expected). If you can't find a FP, get off yoru *** and do something about it. You only need 3 other people.

Can you give some examples please because I can't think of any that weren't in context for the storylines.

Same here, I started 3 days into early access and my first 50 was about a month ago I think. I do some end game stuff with friends, OPs and PvP, still have more to do though. And i've been levelling another character and enjoying the levelling ride all over again. I intend to have at least 1 of each class on the Republic (really don't care for the Imperials pantomime evil and emosith style). I think the journey is more fun than the destination (unlike other games i've played), so i'll give Bioware plenty of time to add more end game content while I have a fantastic time enjoying the levelling of my alts. So the OP has that feeling after 6 days, well I still have it after 90. Don't let the forum haters get you down. The thing is that the only complainers I see are on the forums, everyone in the game I speak to is having an absolute blast.

When you get right down to it, the difference between WoW and SWTOR is none of the SWTOR players are wasting their time on the WoW forums. If WoW is so good how come there are any posters here saying that? Surely they would be in the WoW forums telling Blizz how wonderful it is? But instead we have a vocal minority trying to convince everyone that TOR isn't good enough, but everyone in the game seems to be having a great time.

Thats understandable, it refers to an ad hominem attack and a Nick Cage internet meme.

Really? So because you disagree with my opinion you (incorrectly) assume i'm terrible at a game? My hair is a bird, therefore your argument is invalid.

Are you sure you played WoW? Because story and immersion are definately NOT what I remember from my years of playing it. Like I said I admire WoW for what it was, not what it's becoming, but that doesn't mean i'll put on rose coloured glasses and imagine things were better than they were. There was no, zero, nada immersion in WoW that I remember, and story? Pfft, I doubt even 1% of the Lore or Quest text was ever read by most players. To suggest there was as much or more story & immersion in WoW than in SWTOR is just ludicrous. If you want to debate sensibly i'm happy to continue but if your not going to take it seriously theres really no point.

As a poster above said, being smaller doesn't necessarily mean worse either, assuming the largest is the best is a false premise. And I guess I must be one of the few then, I do, and will, debate that WoW is certainly NOT superior in gameplay, systems or anything else. Don't get me wrong I admire WoW for what it did but nor for what it has become. A travesty. WoW's gameplay is based on a endless grind. Grind to max level, grind instances or raids to get the best gear, when you've done that Blizz will raise the level cap, make all your hard earned gear obsolete and you go back to grinding. Its a pointless treadmill that never ends. The only thing that changes is the number of hit points everyone has (including bosses) and the difficulty is based almost exclusively on gear checks rather than skill and co-ordination checks. At some point you will realise that battering the latest mobile loot pinata until your goodies fall out is ultimately pointless and your investment in the game and your 'effort' to get to the temporary top is a waste of your time. With SWTOR at least the grind is either removed or disguised and the journey is as much fun as the destination. I could not bear the thought of grinding another WoW character for 85 levels but in TOR I actually enjoyed the process so much I can't wait to do it on all the classes.

Um...actually....there are generally 720 hours in a month (30 days x 24hrs = 720). But thats really off topic. The question being debated should be 'Do Blizzard 'get it' when it comes to making a decent mmo'. I think not. WoW is like MacDonalds, it appeals to the masses but can hardly be considered to be a 'good' game. The number of customers does not equate to the quality of a product, just to its mass market appeal. Millions will go and eat at MacDonalds today, very few will eat at The Ivy in London, but I think we all know which is the reheated toxic crap and which is the top quality meal. Hmm, reheated toxic crap. Maybe we should rename WoW to RTC.

I'd say you've been in the wrong guilds matey. Find a fun loving mature guild and you'll have a different experience which is more fun than pugglies.

Your right there are more than six (61 in fact), but the six i'm referring to specifically are on the Fleet. I'm going to check this out tonight in several zones, I suggest everyone does and puts in a bug report if it is indeed inaccurate.

This deserves to be investigated in more detail. If it's a troll post he's the worlds worst troll. But if its not, he's shown a potential bug that might explain why some people think the servers are empty. The counter says zero in fleet, despite the fact that the player is on the fleet and the /who window shows at least 6 players. If the counter is wrong, as it appears to be, then those that have been concerned that their population is so low may be basing thier perception on false information.

Actually I don't think this is a troll. A troll wouldn't have put up a picture showing the /WHO window proving the top left counter is wrong. It could be photoshopped I suppose but it looks clean to me and I don't see any benefit to doing that. But taking it a bit further...if the top left counter is definately not showing the correct number of players on the fleet how many of the 'server population is dropping/ghost town' proponents have been basing their perceptions on incorrect data?* Counter says zero (but the player is clearly on the fleet) and the /who window shows at least 6. I hope the OP has submited a bug report on this, i'll certainly be comparing the counter to the /who list tonight in several zones and I strongly advise you to do the same. *I am not suggesting some servers don't have population issues, just that the extent may (innocently) be being inaccurately reported by the counter.

Completely agree and couldn't have put it better myself. BTW, did you deliberately put the spelling mistake in your signature as irony or was it an incredibly ironic fail?

I just went to youtube to have a look at the gameplay videos of Mist of Panderia to see if I was making unwarranted assumptions about the expansion. I suggest you do the same. Then come back here and honestly tell me, with a straight face, that you think Blizzard 'gets it'. Can't be done.

Republic players can now roll Chiss. All your smurfs are belong to us! Muhahahaaaa

I just want Bioware to reskin Freelancer and bolt it onto the game as an expansion. Job done.

I will say this. I think it took you 7 years and 2 months to become bored with MMOs. Search your feelings Jaxxar, you know it to be true.

I agree whole heartedly! But my experience is that this thread will probably be closed as it's kind tends to attract the haters.

Read the patch notes for 1.2, High res character textures are in as a choice. Which is why this thread was finally dying without a response since the 9th of march.

I care about the Legacy system. I think this content update patch is very impressive in its size. Many of the COTM (Complaints of the Month) have been addressed. High Res character textures Customisable User Interface Combat Log Additional content (New WZ, Ranked PvP, a new FP & new Op and a new World Boss) Significant changes to the crafting system A new set of Dailies A new tier of gear for PVE and PVP Match to chest armour customisation Changes to travel restrictions (speeders on orbital stations & spaceports and Surface to Ship transport) And most importantly - Silencing the ship droid!!! You might not like how they changed some of these things, you might think they should have been in at launch, but you can't deny that this is a huge patch and very good news for the future of the game. The devs have also siad, several times, that this is just the tip of the iceburg with regard to the Legacy system.

Size matters not. Ford is the biggest car manufacturer but they are definately not the reigning automobile champ. WoW may be big, it may have a lot of subscribers but it doesn't give me anywhere near the enjoyment that TOR does.

67% of all statistics are made up on the spot. Source please?

Actually the panda wasn't awesome. Jack Black's dialogue was. OMG, VOICEOVERS WIN!!!!

British actually old chap. Maybe thats why I have a respect for good manners. Edit: Actually we're derailing this thread so lets drop it and get back to the business at hand.