How am I dealing with absolutes? Killing is a last resort but Sidious was simply too powerful. Mace barely beat him in a lightsaber duel and he knows Sidious has kept himself cloaked from the whole Jedi Order while in the same city/planet. Knowing Sidious is a very strong duelist and powerful force user, how would Mace detain him? Certainly not by himself and 3 other Jedi Masters (on the council weren't they too?) got killed by Sidious in seconds. That's leaves Yoda who isn't present at the moment. Think about it realistically: how could Mace possibly detain Sidious? He can't and he knows that, which is why he knows he has to kill him. People are also forgetting that Mace entered Sidious's room declaring Sidious under arrest and Sidious chose to start the fight, not Mace. If Mace kicked the door down and leapt at Sidious without hesitation, then that's a darkside choice. Giving Sidious a peaceful choice was the lightside option and Mace chose that.

Why do so many people can hung over that Mace Windu tried to kill Sidious? He was a highly dangerous Sith Lord that worked his master plan in front of the Jedi for years. Mace Windu just fought Palpatine so he obviously knows that he's an immensely powerful Sith Lord. Knowing just how powerful Palpatine is, I wouldn't want to risk taking him into custody either. I doubt Mace Windu could even hold Palpatine until he was detained in some sort of cell, and how could a cell even contain Palpatine? Palpatine would escape easily if Mace Windu tried to take him into custody and the Jedi would be back at square one again.

Bold corrected.

Again, the galaxy (known galaxy) is very large and certainly larger than the story of Anakin Skywalker. I don't see what's wrong with writing stories what happens prior, during, and after the story of Anakin Solo. I agree some of the EU has been crazy but that happens when you have so many different writers working on one shared galaxy. Plus, Lucas didn't help because he won't let the big 3 get killed off.

We can't even achieve world wide peace on our planet. Now imagine sustaining peace in the a galaxy filled with hundreds (thousands?) of planets with their own culture, nationality, ambitions, etc. and that's not even including all the ancient threats or possible things laying beyond the known galaxy. Simply, maintaining galaxy wide peace is lofty but impossible on a galactic scale. Conflict will inevitably occur at some point whether from within (Rebels trying to secure a legitimate government with remnants of the Empire left) or from the outside (Yuuzhan Vong, Sith returning, or Aboleth for examples). Darth Vader's sacrifice was meaningful because he stopped the Empire by disposing it of its leadership for enough time to give the Rebels the chance to "catch up." Thanks to Vader, the Rebels had a much better chance of retaking the galaxy and giving Luke time to train further so he could later challenge Palpatine. And btw, I really dislike the Dark Emperor idea because it does belittle Vader's sacrifice a bit but he still stalled the Empire. Edit: Firesaber did a better job of me explaining why Vader's sacrifice was important to the force. I just described how Vader's sacrifice affected the galaxy for the Republic/Empire.

I'm assuming Leia gets dedicated and sufficient training as a Sith Lady. Sith Lords/Ladies aren't known for being "unethusiastic" about their training.

Sith Lord (Lady?) Leia vs Grandmaster Luke? Sounds like an awesome fight if it could happen.

It was the best out of the prequels but still had several problems IMO: -Battle droids still talking (I get its supposed to be funny but its stupid) -R2-D2 whole scene with the droids -Dooku vs Obiwan and Anakin: force powers looked awful (too much CGI Lucas) and why is Obiwan always getting knocked out of these fights in the stupidest ways possible? I don't get why he couldn't have gotten up and helped out. Also the Emperor's weird excited noises make me laugh -Sidious vs Jedi Masters: cool except I wish it didn't look so awful when Sidious kills four jedi in a couple seconds. I get that he moves fast but the acting and the way it was shot always came across as a poor job. Could have been better executed. -Didn't feel like the transition from unsure jedi knight to full blown sith was handled well for Anakin in regards to him immediately starting to kill kids. -Anakin vs Obiwan fight was way too long and honestly laughable at times when they were spinning their lightsabers around for a good two seconds. The first half was cool but them fighting on ropes and nearly on top of lava was too much and too long. Also, Anakin's dismemberment scene was poorly though out. An experienced fighter like Anakin wouldn't make such an idiotic jump like that. -Grievous was a joke the whole movie. No one besides me in my family got why he was wheezing/coughing (should have explained that) and for supposedly being a "******," Grievous fought so poorly against Obiwan. Pros: -Yoda vs Sidious was awesome! -Anakin's march on the jedi temple very sinister and captured the right mood. -Emperor vs Mace Windu was cool too -Anything with the Emperor for the most part was cool.

Caedus, because he, like mentioned before, was a prodigy in the force and his knowledge of the force rivaled Luke's at the time, which is no small feat considering Luke is an EU god. He brutally injured Luke in a duel. Caedus beat Jaina, the Sword of the Jedi, in their first duel even with Luke lending her his strength and Caedus losing his arm during the fight. In their final duel, Caedus, weak and distracted with his daughter's fate, potentially could have killed Jaina as she killed him: "Knowing he would die, Caedus had the option of attacking his twin, as her strike left her open to retaliation, and taking his killer with him. He declined to do so, using his last moments to contact Djo in the Force and warn her that she and Allana were in danger."

Like BrandonSM already mentioned and you mentioned too, the Force augments your physical capabilities but its not what I would term a force battle. A true force battle would be one with minimal to no lightsaber combat (Yoda vs Sidious as BrandonSM mentioned). At Luke's point in his career, he could match Sidious's lightsaber skills but he wasn't an equal when it came to force technique, skill, knowledge, or whatever you want to call it. Luke still had several more galactic conflicts to go through before reaching his current self in EU. Therefore, Luke was not nearly as strong as he currently is when he fought Kun's spirit. Present EU Luke would destroy Kun in a heartbeat. Spirit Kun does not compare to Aboleth.

Please don't trade any of the story. If anything, add more story into the game.

Smugglers and Bounty Hunters aren't much better. They're mindless followers of credits. So whats better, following your ideals/beliefs or money? Obviously that's a bit of an exaggeration but I much prefer playing a Sith/Jedi (or Imperial Agent) because you're fighting for something you believe in whether its the Republic, Empire, or something else. I play as a Sith but my next character will probably be a Jedi. Jedi are awesome and remind me of samurais, paladins, or super heroes. My favorite super hero has always been Batman and playing a Jedi that values justice as much as Batman is appealing. Both sides are cool.

In a lightsaber duel, not a battle of the force. Luke wasn't the one to finish off the Emperor anyways. Exar Kun used the force against Luke and isn't Yavin 4 a strong darkside place too? Either way, Luke still had a long way to go before being the current Luke he is today. He wasn't even Grandmaster at that point yet. Luke has evolved and become much, much stronger since the Exar Kun attack. Now Luke is fighting Aboleth, who would crush Exar Kun.

Exar Kun is a bad*** but lets be more accurate here, Luke wasn't even close to his prime when this happened. I doubt Exar Kun could pull that same move on Luke now.

And those several threads have provided numerous evidence showing Palpatine trumps Vitiate considerably in power.

Vitiate has nothing on Palpatine. Vitiate is still powerful but Palpatine did crazy stuff in EU. I don't think we've see the last of Revan. No one in any fictional setting, especially Sci-fi/Fantasy, should be considered dead unless there is a body and even sometimes that doesn't guarantee death.

Maul can be Sidious's apprentice but that doesn't mean Maul wasn't a tool either. Maul was a weapon to Sidious but I doubt Sidious ever thought Maul would be his successor. If Sidious was angry about Maul's death, it was because he spent years preparing Maul and now he needed a new weapon/tool. I don't see how Maul being Sidious's apprentice and Sidious viewing Maul as a tool are not compatible ideas. Furthermore, I doubt Maul knew of Plagueis so it makes sense Maul was Sidious's "apprentice" since Maul believed Sidious to be the only Sith Lord at the time.

Good list but didn't Luke help Jaina win the fight against Caedus? I didn't think it was just her own ability that let her beat Caedus so I don't know if i would rank her that high but she's definitely up there. I also didn't know Qui-Gon rivaled Mace's lightsaber skill. Makes Maul more impressive than I thought he was before.

Sidious destroyed all life on a planet with force lightning (correct me if I'm wrong) by himself without a ritual and without dozens (or was it hundreds?) of sith lords helping. Sidious become immortal without using a ritual. Sidious doesn't depend on relics to be all powerful. Sidious is all powerful because of sheer will and his own power. Sidious can create and control worm holes that can destroy a fleet of ships. And he did that all in far less time than the Sith Emperor. More detailed explanation from another poster on another thread:

Sidious is the most powerful Sith. This is canon since GL has said so. If you don't believe me, then do some research and look up Sidious's accomplishments because he has done terrifying things not matched by other Sith Lords. Sidious beat Yoda; they didn't tie. Luke is superior to Yoda in every way since EU has made him almost God like. Grievous is a great fighter but he wouldn't stand a chance against anyone on these top 10 lists. Obiwan beat him easily and Mace Windu crushed Grievous with the force. People like Revan, Yoda, Luke, Caedus, Vader, and Sidious to name those off the top of my head would beat Grievous easily.