He lost to Obi/Starkiller/Luke.When he was fighting luke he dident even get hurt.He just got tired from blocking lol.He always feared palpatine.He was always someones pawn.Never the master.If he ever went to the Old Republic the other sith would look down on the week minded fool.He had the potential to be verry strong but after he lost a few limbs and with that lots of his Midclorians in the fight with Obi he just went down hill.So pplz stop listening to the TV and saying Vader is awsome.Hes a PWN/Second rate fighter/Crying *****.If you like this in a villan then sure i guess.Ill stck with Bane/Revan.TY