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Thank you for recognizing what's already obvious to all; you nerfed this discipline way too much so far Changes look promising, have to try to be 100% but look good. You still need to address some things like 1)dot spreading 2)FiB range 3)as all said defensive cooldowns need a buff 4)Phase walk back, what were you thinking when you removed it Thank you for your communication. it finally looks like the dev team is trying to keep the game alive

Vulk was kind enough to "translate" the guide for the hatred assasins as well You can find it at his site, here

Hello all, I ve written a guide for the serenity/hatred discipline. You can find it at my personal blog, in Vulkk's swtor blog & soon in torcommunity.com May the force be with you!

BitRaider Utility was not active on my machine! The above tip helped! Thanks a lot!

" I just wanted to let you know that along with the changes we have already made in 5.0a and 5.0.1, your voices are being heard. We look forward to talking with all of you about the upcoming changes." Like you heard your player base regarding phase walk & shadows/sins?

Eric, I play this game as a sub from the launch. Ever since 2.0 you & the team of devs responsible for class changes are messing with the shadows/sins. I play balance, remember? Now its called Serenity. You took from us Shadow Strike, OK you moved it to infiltration but now you have a shadow without shadow strike... You removed project from us as well... You buried back then our dps leaving us out of ops (seriously all you guys play, if you play the game at all in ops, is all classes but shadows? It took you over a year to realize how ****** the discipline was and it was only in patch 2.8 that you kinda fixed things up with Mind crush for us. But until then we lost our position in ops groups. Ever since Shadows of revan serenity is getting nerfed, patch by patch... I ll ask again, do you even play as a shadow? Ever tried to to dps as a dotter in Styrak HM/NM or Underlurker HM/NM ? You remove utilities from us only to add them to sages like Phase Walk... You continue to nerf our dps. It will be simpler and more fair to us to just say "we ll cancel this class, because we just dont like it" With the loot changes you kill all ops guilds and with the nerfs coming we ll lose our position once again in the ops group... BTW why does a DPS need to guard anyone? Usually WE need to be guarded...I mean come one really? Class Devs, shadow in particular, get paid for what they do? Pick a random member of this post and let him/her rewrite the class for you, he will do a better, much better job.... Once again, we feel disappointed...

No, simple as that!

I play this game since beta! I am from the launch a subs! I have achieved legendary player status, got all datacrons and basically did all the required for this event stuff during all these years. Of course I wont stop playing the game that I love, but BW once again...jeeez, epic fail! I say NO, thank you! I understand that you want to attract new players to your, our, game but this way you show no respect to the people who already done all this and paid this game all these years! I feel that sometimes you are trying so hard to disappoint your loyal player base.... What a poor game planning...

and yet another nerf for serenity/hatred.... you must really hate this discipline, dont you devs? Ever since shadows of revan we are only receiving weaker abilities. I mean are you serious? Really?

shadow/assasin serenity'hatred with accuracy stim

First of all thank you for all the effort making this great post, but there is something wrong with your calculations because, e.g. for shadow/sin serenity/hatred you have in total 11 enhancements calculated (alacrity x6, accuracy x2, critical x3). This is wrong because there are 10 items with enhancements or enhancement equal quality!

true, still there are some "but" in my mind but this isnt the topic here

I think it would be awesome to have an application for our smartphones, where we can view our characters, sell stuff on the GTN, view our achievements, chat with our guildmates just like wow has with armory! Its really missing since game's launch!

I agree with you that there is something problematic here and if this is not serenity, then it is infiltration. Aelanis, I dont see why you give up mobility with infiltration shadow stride, Using it not only you are closing a gap between you and an opponent (boss/add, it doesnt matter), you also get to strike it hard with force breach. And its short cooldown allows you to use it pretty fast soon.

I want to bring this into the developer's attention. I am a shadow dedicated player since beta. back in 2012! My main spec is serenity/hatred & currently I started trying infiltration as well. From my experience so far, one important thing came to my attention: the use of shadow stride in serenity is problematic. Shadow Stride is the new ability the shadow/assassin gets in the new expansion. A huge gap closer, paired with the correct utilities a valuable stun breaker & an ability that boosts our dps. In Infiltration every time we use Shadow Stride we instantly get 3 stacks of breaching shadows, meaning Force Breach procs and if used deals a huge ammount of damage. Shadow Stride can be used as easily both during our normal rotation and during our execute phase. Just click it every time you want an instant, maximized Force Breach. Last but not least, during an infiltration opener, Shadow Stride gives us a third maximized Force Breach, cool right? On the other hand in Serenity the usage of Shadow Stride is not that straightforward. Using Shadow Stride in Serenity, gives you an instant Spinning Strike (execute attack). Every time? No, and here things complicate in Serenity. Shadow Stride gives the free Spinning Strike as long as it hasnt been proced from your dots (Crush Spirit passive ability gives a 30% to grant a free Spinning Strike from your dots & a 100% from Shadow Stride) during the last 10 GCDs. In other words, the usage of Shadow Stride is impaired cause of the dots granting a free Spinning Strike and the internal cooldown of 10 GCDs. In game, during my countless parses in Serenity, Shadow Stride is usable without any problems only during your opener. Then its usage becomes hazzy and its almost impossibel to keep track of the 10 GCDs everytime Spinning Strike procs from your dots, because Spinnign Strike always procs from the dots once or even twice during the rotational circle. Bioware needs to look into this & make changes, because in Serenity Shadow Stride usage is not what its supposed to be.

whats wrong with you devs? We had to endure 1 damn year with RotHC 2.0 when you destroyed shadow balance, until 2.8 when you finally fixed our dps.... You gave us a solid spot in any ops team with 3.0 and patch by patch you continue to destroy our class.... what are you thinking? You nerfed our healing... you nerfed our fib range.... now we can not spread dots in 10m around us...damn,,, we are not a melee class the way sentinels are.... stop messing things up, are you trying to make ppl top playing shadows? With the excuse of pvp balancing you destroyed our pve perfomance and you continue on doing a great job...

for me more important is to fix the controls of starfighter in general. I was super excited when it was announced and super disappointed with its release. I was expecting a type of control like warthunder, the current controls feel awkward to me...

How does Force Strike's new proc cd ( 9 sec instead of 7.5 ) affect our rotation? Do we maintain the odd number separation between SF & FB ? From what i noticed after 4 rotation Vanquish bumps into either SF & FB or FiB...

you are right mate, as I am a shadow I watched only shadow's stream

First of all thank you for your replies... so serenity got 1 new ability; serenity strike ONLY.... @MagikFingerz : I watched the stream closely BUT 99% of it was for the sorcerer & the assassin...how ignorant must I be not to know the names of the equivalent powers on the imp side... My allegiance is with the republic and seeing the stream, hearing only the imp abilities didnt help me that much..

I watched the stream live last night, went over the disciplines calculator at dulfy and got confused about the usage of Vanquish & Mind Crush for Serenity shadows. Both abilities are identical except the fact that vanquish places a debuff on the target. Whats the point of adding vanquish to serenity if it cant he used along with mind crush? I mean serenity strike is different than double strike since it has a 12 sec cd and can be used once every 8 GCDs. But vanquish and mind crush share a cooldown..... Fellow shadows, devs can you answer me please?

if developers REALLy read this forum, THIS MUST HAPPEN! I cant understand why swtor does not allow the use of third party add-ons, like wow does with curse...

Question about Balance PVE rotation... Why keep battle readiness/relic/adrenal for mind crush proc? If we use them right from the start all our dots will benefit from the increased power/critical rate... Is there a reason you are suggesting that?

M-knightridder in his Mr Robot profile has: crit 376/ surge 431 / Acc 454 / power 1141, while wildbery crit 340/ surge 416/ acc 402/ power 1132. Mine are crit 348 / surge 410 / power 967/ acc 442, so I believe that this isnt the case. I know my power is lower than the above chars but I dont thnik the 400+ dps difference is justified. Something else is the faulty thingy! I will upload a 5 min parse tonight