Was talking about both, thanks for making the distinction for me. AstralFire stacks crit and surge, and I think he is a 31/0/10? Well, if nothing else it gives me a target to build towards with my second set of clothes.

Does this mean Shadow tanks shouldn't build up on crit or surge, or should prefer defense mods to offence?

That's a lot to think about. Thanks for it! ETA: Do you repec for raiding or do you not do ops?

Timely thread. I'm a kinetic shadow, and was approaching my first 1000 WZ commendations and a guild mate suggested I invest in the 40 pvp set. I got some items, including a very nice chest. However, after doing so I noticed I started losing some pretty easy world PvP fights. When I lost to a standard gold in PvE I went ripped out all of the modifications for PvP and swapped in the mods I had in the orange piece I had before, which stack defense heavily. Problem went away after that. The PvP piece looks much better and has a better base armor level so it is an improvement over what I had, but I don't really need alaricity do I? Is there a link or earlier thread that outlines what modifications I should be looking for, what stats to stack, and to what level? Getting the balance right seems pretty important.

Gear is huge. I swapped ear pieces last night to buff a bunch of other stats with a drop of a few willpower, and that dropped my overall will by 400! I was really wondering *** was going on. Gave me huge presence, and the mod didn't even show that as an option. Wonder if I got a bugged item? Level 44, Kinetic Shadow Strength - 90 Presence - 203 Aim - 45 Cunning - 45 Endurance - 857 Willpower - 718 Exp - 0 Damage - 385-493 Bonus Damage - 171.4 Accuracy – 91.52% Chance crit - 15.99% Crit mult – 52.46% Health - 10580 Armour Rating - 4642 Damage Reduction – 34.59% Defense – 19.48% Shield - 24.26% Shield abs – 28.15%

If you are talking about the 31/0/10 build (which I am currently leveling up) fill in the kinetic tree first, then add in the balance elements.

Red Wings. Also hats off to Sam Gagner--8 points last night! Epic. Tied him in 2nd place for points per night in history of NHL (and with Coffee and Gretzky on his own team).

One was posted. Also check the guide stickied at the top of the forum, under Kinetic Combat.

Looks fine for your level. I started a thread in order to build a database to help answer such questions. Feel free to post up in there since I didn't think to do it until relatively high in level.

Instead of whispering try gchat. I've never had a problem finding a group when I've wanted, but it can sometimes take up to 30 minutes (and as soon as you get your group then you will see 3 other LFGs for the same quest! D'oh! (Aside: ShiningRiver, could you please bump your font up a point or two? Its a little hard to read being so small and in that color my eyes kind of blur it all together. Thanks!)

Gah ninja'd!

Before then even. My little plastic Luke Skywalker action figure from 77 or 78 had a yellow plastic light saber blade that would slide in and out of the hilt (and up his arm). I recall being pretty annoyed because it was clearly blue in the movie. Just got a new double light saber last night in a flash point with an orange blade. I'm light side 4 and look Impy.

When is there ever lots of force in PvP? Thanks, appreciate it. Got a really nice focus during a flashpoint last night and my guild mates were all much more excited than I (my shield is already pretty decent). I was under the impression that shield plus KW trumped focus, but thought I'd ask in case I missed something

So on this topic...as a 31/0/10, shield or focus?

I was questing last night and socializing on mumble with some guild mates, two of whom were attempting to do this instance and quickly realized they were way over their heads. I and another joined them, so we were three DPS and one shadow tank (me), 39, 42, and two 50s. It was perhaps the most fun I've had yet in SW:TOR! We wiped once, and some of us were killed at various points during the run (really could have used a healer, especially myself when I kept instinctively drawing the aggro off the 50s), but working out the puzzles under fire was excellent fun! And the final battles in the Arena--really nice nod to Attack of the Clones. And I got a really spiffy new double bladed light saber! TL;DR: play this instance for an excellent time!

My first MMO and I am enjoying the heck out of it. Play between 2-4 hours most days, and am only at 43--there is just too much to see and do. Just played a flashpoint last night (War Games) that was an absolute scream. However, orbital platforms and shuttles and airlocks have to go. And I remember on Taris my wife commenting to me "do you do anything other than run around?" So, there is that. (And no, now I can ride my speeder all around)

This is a great idea. How does one give items away?

This for me, plus I'm trying to figure out how to quickly communicate to the team during pug WZs. Message macro binds (like in FPS) would really help.

Talented to use without stealth...+like

Thanks, probably not worth it for me then, since I'm already orange on hands and feet, and purple on head and wrap, with mostly oranges or blues filling in the rest (a few greens remain for the implants, and I still have a open relic slot).

You 50s should also post your valor level too, thanks!

I was just starting to get this bug last night immediately after getting a new mouse and finally setting up a keyboard config. Was really annoying.

Have over 600 WZ tokens already, surprise surprise since I am not PvPing all of the time. Is the level 40 really that much a step up from my updated modded oranges and purples? Hmm.

Because blue Twi'lek chicks rule. Seriously, I've never given it much thought. In Jedi Academy and now in TOR I play petite blue female Twi'leks, partially because, similar to anime, its great to see how much hurt the wee, inoffensive female can deliver. Hopefully some in PvP will underestimate that subconsciously too. In KotOR I played a female human for similar reasons (would not allow me a Twi'lek! *shakes fist*). I can't wait to take my toon out to tank HMs. Hopefully next week!

Exactly. I got to it yesterday at level 40, and then had a *** moment because apparently I got wiped there the day before after coming home from the pub. Explains why the rest of the room was empty when I went through it--really have no recollection of the boss so must not have really registered as anything other than normal. I mind mazed the sorcerer, burned down the two melee but stupidly broke my own cc with a reflexive force breach. So I force waved them off the platform, called off Tharen, stunned the sorcerer as she was running up the platform, finished off the other two with some help from Holiday, then took out the last. I had hit one of the consoles right before but didn't recall it buffing me or whatever, and I didn't drop so many HP that I needed another hit on a console. ETA: well, I arrived at Quesh at 40 so that is why I was there. Do more quests/WZ/space combat!