I love the Project delay.

Proof on burst numbers above. And now you bring gear into it. What is it. Survivability problem? Damage problem? Oh no, now its a gear thing. Forget it. You cant fix stupid. I MIGHT return to this thread to post the 16k+ on low geared and 11k+ on BM geared players when I get them on video. Right now Im out of it. Good day sir. edit: Im not defensive - Im just pointing out FACTS.

12359 damage from project and 3point breach - 2 ABILITIES/GCD's (forget the proc as it isnt an ability) on fresh dinged/low geared 50 Merc - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvHrzri95aU 3.45secs in. Now imagine it with a 5 point breach crit followed by spinning strike crit. 10092 damage from project, 2 point breach and spinning strike - 3 ABILITIES/GCD's (NO PROCS) on BM geared OP - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyhirChKtLM 2.10sec in. Now imagine it with upheaval and shadow tech procs. I dont claim to be better than anyone else. Hell I dont even claim to be all that good. But if I, an average at best Inf Shadow can do this then surely this class/spec in the hands of the best mmo players is GODLY. Its a glass cannon and anyone asking for "some love" "buffs" w/e then you, like I said in my first post in this thread, are doing it WRONG.

I said about the same as you on BM geared people. So you agree. I can do spinning strike just fine if they are below 30% when I get to that point (targets arent always at 100% HP or being attacked JUST by YOU). I dont assume anything. I think of possibility. If its possible that we will hit a BM geared player for that much do you think we should have a damage increase? I read just fine. You are arguing semantics. OK OK 1x stun and 1x incapacitate. (will edit my first post) I gather from your posts you want more survivability right? Then stop arguing damage output with me. I just pointed out what I know to be the pro's of Infiltration. And also quote my exaggerations please. AFAIK I made 1 error (semantic and hardly important to the discussion) - stun or incapacitate.

PS: I have a video on youtube that shows me hitting a fresh dinged 50 for 12359 using only project and 3p breach.

4.5k project upheaval proc 2.2k 5k 5pbreach 4.5k spinning strike - 16.2k who cares who its on - you want MORE? Throw in a nice proc from shadow tech and .... well yeah. You want to hit a fresh dinged 50 for MORE than that? that would be fair? 9000 - 11000 on champ/BM geared. See above. Low slash is a stun as it prevents them from carrying out an action. Use at as an interrupt or a run stopper or simply as a time buyer to get ready for burst again. Learn to ability. AOE knockback is great for healer peels and making an escape as well as knocking enemy out of LOS of healers (knockback+stun then burst). You dont HAVE to wait for all 3 to be up to make an escape. Force speed can be used with roots/snares to break combat and restealth. Resilience is great when you know the attacking target is going to burst on you. Force cloak is great for escape always (just use it wisely in the right place/situation), I know it doesnt always drop combat but I reckon that will change/be fixed in future. All 3 up together is Ability: HAHAINEVERDIE 2min cooldown. Srsly? You want more than that? Get better. Oh the irony. I play versus plenty of those every day. Now what? You want to do your maximum possible damage against a TANK? This your first mmo?

Burst : 10000 - 16000 in 2/3 global cd's 3500 - 5200 crits AOE knockback 1 x stun 1 x INCAPACITATE AOE 30% damage reduction Survivability = Force Speed / Resilience / Force Cloak NP with infiltration at all. Get better - you're doing it wrong.

400-500k is no problem - you just need plenty of healing on a stalemate Voidstar.

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