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  1. I've read far more novels than I have comics, but the Tales of the Jedi, X-Wing: Rogue Squadron, and Legacy series are all worth your time. Tales starts 5000 BBY with the discovery of the original Sith Empire and its subsequent war against the Galactic Republic. The third story arc moves forward to 4000 BBY and follows Ulic and Cay Qel-Droma as they fight in the Beast Wars of Onderon. The fourth story arc deals with the tribulations of a Jedi Knight's widow who becomes a Jedi herself. The fifth arc returns to Onderon where Ulic Qel-Droma must investigate a Sith-inspired uprising. The final three arcs continue the Qel-Droma and Nomi Sunrider stories with the consequences of Qel-Droma's investigation. X-Wing is set 4-5 ABY, prior to the novel series of the same name. The final four story arcs of the comic series together comprise the "Rise of Isard" arc, which refers to a significant character from the novel series - Imperial Intelligence Director Ysanne Isard, who attempts to centralize the floundering Empire under her own authority. Legacy takes place mainly 137 ABY, with a resurgent Galactic Empire overtaking the Galactic Alliance. It features the emergence of a new Sith Order and follows a descendant of the Skywalker line named Cade. It concluded in a six-part series entitled Legacy - War.
  2. I believe this is everything we currently know about the Legacy system: Shared surname for all characters on a server (already implemented) Each character's XP contributes to Legacy XP (already implemented) Additional character creation options Additional "powers, objects, and other cool benefits" System will be expanded in March
  3. It appears that that little piece of information came from The Approaching Storm, a novel that takes place shortly before Attack of the Clones. As such, I wouldn't even worry about it. I haven't read the novel in question, but those events are approximately 3000 years away - that could easily be a rule that arises sometime during that period, rather than already being in place in the SWTOR timeframe. If you want to make use of the rule in your RP and have your character as an exception, perhaps the backstory for your character's friend could include considerable familiarity with Mirialan culture. Or perhaps you could act as if there are no Mirialan Jedi who are in a position to take on a Padawan when your character needs a new master.
  4. It's just a UI glitch. Reset the UI by using the command Ctrl+U twice - the first time will turn off the UI, and the second will turn it back on.
  5. Most of what you mention in your spoiler code did indeed come from the Thrawn trilogy (Heir to the Empire, Dark Force Rising, The Last Command). As for your last sentence... I honestly wouldn't worry too much about references such as the ones you've mentioned. If we attempted to make a "thorough" listing of each novel necessary for the deepest possible understanding, it'd take a long time to actually get started on any recent stuff! (That said, you'd end up reading some good and some great stuff - and some awful stuff, too.)
  6. Old Republic Era * The Old Republic: Revan * The Old Republic: Deceived Rise of the Empire Era * Rogue Planet (if you plan to read The New Jedi Order; I don't recall liking this book all that much back when it was released) * Republic Commando series (you better like Mandalorians, though - also, Imperial Commando 501st is the last novel featuring these characters) * Shatterpoint * Labyrinth of Evil * Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader * The Han Solo Trilogy * The Adventures of Lando Calrissian * The Han Solo Adventures (Brian Daley's works, which I recall as being fun as hell, though I haven't read them since my early teens - there's also, if I recall correctly, a point in A.C. Crispin's Han Solo Trilogy where its story takes a sort of "break" where one could then easily read these books) Rebellion Era * Splinter of the Mind's Eye (the first non-novelization SW novel; originally intended as the basis for a low-budget Star Wars) * Shadows of the Empire (takes place between The Empire Strikes Back & Return of the Jedi) New Republic Era * X-Wing series (keeping in mind that the last two books - Isard's Revenge and Starfighters of Adumar - take place following books outside this series) * The Courtship of Princess Leia (I don't recall much about the quality of this one, but it is pretty important as far as the future of the EU goes from this point on) * The Thrawn Trilogy (pretty much a must - the first post-ROTJ novels published, though some time has passed since ROTJ) * The Jedi Academy Trilogy (not great stuff, but pretty important for the establishment of Luke's new Jedi Order) * I, Jedi (just fantastic, and a great companion piece to both the X-Wing series and the Jedi Academy Trilogy) * Darksaber (again, no recollection on quality, but some important characterizations here for later works - at one point, I had a copy signed by Kevin J. Anderson but no clue where it's at these days) * The Corellian Trilogy (I do recall enjoy these books, and some events here are important in later books as well) * The Hand of Thrawn Duology (more Zahn work, based on his earlier Thrawn Trilogy - good stuff, as I recall, plus important in later books) * Young Jedi Knights series (surprisingly good for YA books, though I've only read the first six; also, they introduce and flesh out many characters who are important in the NJO and beyond) New Jedi Order Era * The New Jedi Order series (some of it is average, some is good / very good, some is great; my favorite SW novel period - Traitor - is in this series) * The Dark Nest Trilogy (I enjoyed it well enough, plus some events are very important in LOTF) Legacy Era * Legacy of the Force (I enjoyed most of it, but I do agree with some criticisms that I've seen that parts of it feel as if the series was too long, too drawn out) * Crosscurrent (pretty fun; worth noting that it focuses on a Jedi introduced in the Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy video game, and features none of the original and/or other popular EU characters) * Millennium Falcon (pretty fun, plus worth it to spend some time "alone" with Han & Leia following the tragic events in LOTF) * Fate of the Jedi (read the eight published so far, and mostly enjoying it; worth noting that one might want to consider reading the "Lost Tribe of the Sith" eBooks either prior to or in conjunction with this, as they spell out some of the history of the Sith in this series) If I haven't mentioned a post-ROTJ book above, then odds are it wasn't worth reading (if published back in the Bantam days) or it was published after I wasn't reading SW novels quite as voraciously as I once did (i.e., some of Zahn's newer stuff, Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor, etc.). As for books set during the Clone Wars, I haven't read most of those; same with the Old Republic Era. For some examples of those that I consider not worth reading: Children of the Jedi; Planet of Twilight; The Crystal Star; The Black Fleet Crisis Trilogy; and The New Rebellion. Unfortunately, there is a rather important mention during the FOTJ series of one character who is in a few of those books, but one would probably be okay to still skip those. Of course, she also appears in Darksaber, so it could be odd to have her show up in that one without the context of her first appearance and the ones after Darksaber. For comic recommendations (out of the many comics series that have been published, I have unfortunately read very few, so I'm not going to bother separating these into eras): * Tales of the Jedi (nicely collected in two Dark Horse Omnibus editions) * X-Wing Rogue Squadron (chronologically take place prior to the X-Wing novels, and introduce some characters important in those novels - collected in three DH Omnibus editions) * Dark Empire Trilogy (Dark Empire, Dark Empire II, Empire's End) * Legacy (great stuff, 140 years or so after A New Hope)
  7. If you right-click one of your existing chat tabs, there should also be an option to create a custom chat channel.
  8. Surik never fell to the Dark Side, so she does not count. I doubt Mace would have attempted to keep control for any length of time. If he and the other Masters had been successful at arresting Palpatine, then he most likely would have pushed hard to convince the Senate to select a new Chancellor as quickly as possible. The Jedi Council would not want to rule the Republic. I don't recall much of Shatterpoint anymore, except that it was one hell of a novel. And how, exactly, do we know that there weren't laws in place allowing the Jedi Order to arrest and detain Sith, wherever they might be found? If there wasn't such a law, there should have been, considering the Jedi Order was the only official protection the Republic had, and due to the numerous historical examples of the Sith presenting imminent, existentialist threats to the Republic.
  9. Old Republic Era * The Old Republic: Revan * The Old Republic: Deceived Rise of the Empire Era * Rogue Planet (if you plan to read The New Jedi Order; I don't recall liking this book all that much back when it was released) * Republic Commando series (you better like Mandalorians, though - also, Imperial Commando 501st is the last novel featuring these characters) * Shatterpoint * Labyrinth of Evil * Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader * The Han Solo Trilogy * The Adventures of Lando Calrissian * The Han Solo Adventures (Brian Daley's works, which I recall as being fun as hell, though I haven't read them since my early teens - there's also, if I recall correctly, a point in A.C. Crispin's Han Solo Trilogy where its story takes a sort of "break" where one could then easily read these books) Rebellion Era * Splinter of the Mind's Eye (the first non-novelization SW novel; originally intended as the basis for a low-budget Star Wars) * Shadows of the Empire (takes place between The Empire Strikes Back & Return of the Jedi) New Republic Era * X-Wing series (keeping in mind that the last two books - Isard's Revenge and Starfighters of Adumar - take place following books outside this series) * The Courtship of Princess Leia (I don't recall much about the quality of this one, but it is pretty important as far as the future of the EU goes from this point on) * The Thrawn Trilogy (pretty much a must - the first post-ROTJ novels published, though some time has passed since ROTJ) * The Jedi Academy Trilogy (not great stuff, but pretty important for the establishment of Luke's new Jedi Order) * I, Jedi (just fantastic, and a great companion piece to both the X-Wing series and the Jedi Academy Trilogy) * Darksaber (again, no recollection on quality, but some important characterizations here for later works - at one point, I had a copy signed by Kevin J. Anderson but no clue where it's at these days) * The Corellian Trilogy (I do recall enjoy these books, and some events here are important in later books as well) * The Hand of Thrawn Duology (more Zahn work, based on his earlier Thrawn Trilogy - good stuff, as I recall, plus important in later books) * Young Jedi Knights series (surprisingly good for YA books, though I've only read the first six; also, they introduce and flesh out many characters who are important in the NJO and beyond) New Jedi Order Era * The New Jedi Order series (some of it is average, some is good / very good, some is great; my favorite SW novel period - Traitor - is in this series) * The Dark Nest Trilogy (I enjoyed it well enough, plus some events are very important in LOTF) Legacy Era * Legacy of the Force (I enjoyed most of it, but I do agree with some criticisms that I've seen that parts of it feel as if the series was too long, too drawn out) * Crosscurrent (pretty fun; worth noting that it focuses on a Jedi introduced in the Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy video game, and features none of the original and/or other popular EU characters) * Millennium Falcon (pretty fun, plus worth it to spend some time "alone" with Han & Leia following the tragic events in LOTF) * Fate of the Jedi (read the eight published so far, and mostly enjoying it; worth noting that one might want to consider reading the "Lost Tribe of the Sith" eBooks either prior to or in conjunction with this, as they spell out some of the history of the Sith in this series) If I haven't mentioned a post-ROTJ book above, then odds are it wasn't worth reading (if published back in the Bantam days) or it was published after I wasn't reading SW novels quite as voraciously as I once did (i.e., some of Zahn's newer stuff, Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor, etc.). As for books set during the Clone Wars, I haven't read most of those; same with the Old Republic Era. For some examples of those that I consider not worth reading: Children of the Jedi; Planet of Twilight; The Crystal Star; The Black Fleet Crisis Trilogy; and The New Rebellion. Unfortunately, there is a rather important mention during the FOTJ series of one character who is in a few of those books, but one would probably be okay to still skip those. Of course, she also appears in Darksaber, so it could be odd to have her show up in that one without the context of her first appearance and the ones after Darksaber. For comic recommendations (out of the many comics series that have been published, I have unfortunately read very few, so I'm not going to bother separating these into eras): * Tales of the Jedi (nicely collected in two Dark Horse Omnibus editions) * X-Wing Rogue Squadron (chronologically take place prior to the X-Wing novels, and introduce some characters important in those novels - collected in three DH Omnibus editions) * Dark Empire Trilogy (Dark Empire, Dark Empire II, Empire's End) * Legacy (great stuff, 140 years or so after A New Hope)
  10. Carnor Jax is only in the comic series Crimson Empire I and Crimson Empire II, and the Kenix Kil issue in the Bounty Hunter comic series.
  11. While it won't show the earliest Sith Lords, the first two story arcs of the Tales of the Jedi comic series (collected in two Omnibus editions, originally published in the mid-90s) focused on the original Sith Empire and the Great Hyperspace War. The subsequent story arcs cover a time period from then (5000 BBY) up to right around 30 years before KOTOR I. As for the information about the Sith Emperor's life, most of what is currently known has come from the Revan novel.
  12. I forgot to mention earlier... If one chooses to read the New Jedi Order series, I would recommend starting with a prequel era novel by Greg Bear titled Rogue Planet. In many ways, it acts as a prequel to the NJO, which will be very evident by the end of the series. My recollection on the quality of that book, however, is very fuzzy, so I unfortunately can't back the content-focused recommendation with a quality one.
  13. Even as a fan of the series, I agree that it's a little on the long side. It was originally going to be even longer, however. The series is essentially structured as duologies interspersed with single books (in terms of author assignments - it's all one long story, of course, though different segments would focus on different stages of the war). The first duology, Dark Tide, was originally set to be a trilogy, but was ultimately cut down by one book., and an entire trilogy titled Knightfall was canceled. NJO features an enemy that counters the Jedi in almost every way conceivable. Where the Jedi rely so much on the Force, the Yuuzhan Vong are not present in the Force at all - making them an incredibly deadly enemy for the Jedi, and for the larger galaxy due to their unique organic technology. "EU" refers to "Expanded Universe," which encompasses everything officially licensed outside of the movies - novels, short stories, video games, comic books, etc. Traitor is definitely one of the best Star Wars novels written to date, and is easily the highpoint in a series that I enjoyed quite a bit. As to the eBook novellas - there are a total of three. There are also three short stories and a single comic issue. The correct order for everything can be seen here, though I wouldn't consider any of these novellas, short stories, or the comic to be necessary to following the NJO. I haven't read any of them.
  14. As others have said, you don't need to have played the two KOTOR games to understand the novel, because it does do a fairly good job at summarizing the major points of the games. It might increase your enjoyment of the novel to have played the games, though, since you'll have a more firm grasp on certain characters. Both games are absolutely worth playing. KOTOR I is a classic good versus evil Star Wars tale, while KOTOR II is more of a deconstruction. KOTOR I can be downloaded via Valve's Steam platform, so that makes it very easy to get. If you do play KOTOR II, I highly suggest doing so with The Sith Lords Restored Content Mod installed. Obsidian Entertainment, the developers, were rushed to ship the game by publisher LucasArts, so there is a great deal of content that never made it into the retail version of the game. As for Revan itself, I do think it's worth reading for someone interested in Revan and the Jedi Exile (the player character in TSL, who gains a name in the novel). I'm a big fan of both games, and enjoyed the novel quite a bit. The author has worked for BioWare for years, including on the writing team for KOTOR I and on the writing team for SWTOR, so he wasn't some outsider hired by Del Rey and/or LucasArts who isn't intimately familiar with the lore.
  15. You're kind of framing this in the wrong direction. The webcomics would have been written after the involvement of such characters in the game was written, so they aren't "remembered" from the webcomics so much as BioWare wanted to flesh out the time period and backstory by using certain NPCs from the game. But, yes, it's cool. BioWare has been doing a pretty good job at expanding their game stories into other works for a little while now. I've also enjoyed the Mass Effect and Dragon Age novels. I've only read one of the ME comics series but I enjoyed that one as well.
  16. I would not read Fate of the Jedi without having read at least Legacy of the Force first. There are still going to be very prominent characters whose backstories you won't have a full grasp on even if you do that, but you'll at least have a better idea on the state of the galaxy in FOTJ due to the events in LOTF. If you do read LOTF first, I'd follow-up with Millennium Falcon (prior to FOTJ) because it's a somewhat smaller story, and deals with the effects that LOTF events had on Han and Leia. If you start reading LOTF and decide that you don't have a firm enough grasp on the new Jedi, step back to New Jedi Order, which was the first set of books from Del Rey Publishing and started a new "era," so to say, for the books (Bantam previously held the books license, and events in NJO and beyond do build on events in older Bantam titles as one would expect - that's where some prominent LOTF characters come from, in fact). I genuinely liked NJO quite a bit, I have some issues with LOTF but enjoyed it overall, and I'm enjoying FOTJ overall as well.
  17. VanorDM is correct. Stephen Reid's Ask Me Anything on Reddit:
  18. In addition to what has previously been pointed out...
  19. You can't involve the Lost Tribe, because Kesh was never visited by a starship or outsiders after the Omen crashed there until the Sith Meditation Sphere found them.
  20. A very short while, and only in the first Dark Empire story arc. That situation, however, isn't relevant to LrdStryfe's question, since Luke was Palpatine's sole apprentice during that story.
  21. The Internet Archive's Wayback Machine has an archived copy here.
  22. Old Republic Era * The Old Republic: Revan * The Old Republic: Deceived Rise of the Empire Era * Rogue Planet (if you plan to read The New Jedi Order; I don't recall liking this book all that much back when it was released) * Republic Commando series (you better like Mandalorians, though - also, Imperial Commando 501st is the last novel featuring these characters) * Shatterpoint * Labyrinth of Evil * Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader * The Han Solo Trilogy * The Adventures of Lando Calrissian * The Han Solo Adventures (Brian Daley's works, which I recall as being fun as hell, though I haven't read them since my early teens - there's also, if I recall correctly, a point in A.C. Crispin's Han Solo Trilogy where its story takes a sort of "break" where one could then easily read these books) Rebellion Era * Splinter of the Mind's Eye (the first non-novelization SW novel; originally intended as the basis for a low-budget Star Wars) * Shadows of the Empire (takes place between The Empire Strikes Back & Return of the Jedi) New Republic Era * X-Wing series (keeping in mind that the last two books - Isard's Revenge and Starfighters of Adumar - take place following books outside this series) * The Courtship of Princess Leia (I don't recall much about the quality of this one, but it is pretty important as far as the future of the EU goes from this point on) * The Thrawn Trilogy (pretty much a must - the first post-ROTJ novels published, though some time has passed since ROTJ) * The Jedi Academy Trilogy (not great stuff, but pretty important for the establishment of Luke's new Jedi Order) * I, Jedi (just fantastic, and a great companion piece to both the X-Wing series and the Jedi Academy Trilogy) * Darksaber (again, no recollection on quality, but some important characterizations here for later works - at one point, I had a copy signed by Kevin J. Anderson but no clue where it's at these days) * The Corellian Trilogy (I do recall enjoy these books, and some events here are important in later books as well) * The Hand of Thrawn Duology (more Zahn work, based on his earlier Thrawn Trilogy - good stuff, as I recall, plus important in later books) * Young Jedi Knights series (surprisingly good for YA books, though I've only read the first six; also, they introduce and flesh out many characters who are important in the NJO and beyond) New Jedi Order Era * The New Jedi Order series (some of it is average, some is good / very good, some is great; my favorite SW novel period - Traitor - is in this series) * The Dark Nest Trilogy (I enjoyed it well enough, plus some events are very important in LOTF) Legacy Era * Legacy of the Force (I enjoyed most of it, but I do agree with some criticisms that I've seen that parts of it feel as if the series was too long, too drawn out) * Crosscurrent (pretty fun; worth noting that it focuses on a Jedi introduced in the Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy video game, and features none of the original and/or other popular EU characters) * Millennium Falcon (pretty fun, plus worth it to spend some time "alone" with Han & Leia following the tragic events in LOTF) * Fate of the Jedi (read the eight published so far, and mostly enjoying it; worth noting that one might want to consider reading the "Lost Tribe of the Sith" eBooks either prior to or in conjunction with this, as they spell out some of the history of the Sith in this series) If I haven't mentioned a post-ROTJ book above, then odds are it wasn't worth reading (if published back in the Bantam days) or it was published after I wasn't reading SW novels quite as voraciously as I once did (i.e., some of Zahn's newer stuff, Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor, etc.). As for books set during the Clone Wars, I haven't read most of those; same with the Old Republic Era. For some examples of those that I consider not worth reading: Children of the Jedi; Planet of Twilight; The Crystal Star; The Black Fleet Crisis Trilogy; and The New Rebellion. Unfortunately, there is a rather important mention during the FOTJ series of one character who is in a few of those books, but one would probably be okay to still skip those. Of course, she also appears in Darksaber, so it could be odd to have her show up in that one without the context of her first appearance and the ones after Darksaber. For comic recommendations (out of the many comics series that have been published, I have unfortunately read very few, so I'm not going to bother separating these into eras): * Tales of the Jedi (nicely collected in two Dark Horse Omnibus editions) * X-Wing Rogue Squadron (chronologically take place prior to the X-Wing novels, and introduce some characters important in those novels - collected in three DH Omnibus editions) * Dark Empire Trilogy (Dark Empire, Dark Empire II, Empire's End) * Legacy (great stuff, 140 years or so after A New Hope)
  23. Revan and Deceived are both great. Fatal Alliance was crap. As Stoneywas mentions, there are also three comic series set in the SWTOR timeframe. The first two can be read here on the official website (or purchased in trade paperback form); the third - The Lost Suns - will be published in TPB in late April. If you want to step back to 10 years prior to KOTOR I, there was a comic series entitled Knights of the Old Republic. If you want to step back farther than that, pick up Tales of the Jedi. Not exactly, no. Lost Tribe of the Sith begins during the Great Hyperspace War, which was depicted in Tales of the Jedi - a series that spanned 5000 BBY to 3986 BBY, roughly 30 years prior to KOTOR I. After that early time setting, Lost Tribe starts jumping around. It goes from the 5000 BBY timeframe to 4985 in book 3, to 4975 in book 4, to 3960 in books 5 and 6, to 3900 in book 7, and to between 3000 and 1032 BBY in book 8. The timeframe for the final novella is unknown until the collected version is published (it's being included exclusively as part of the paperback), but I wouldn't be surprised at all if it jumps to the "current" timeframe of the EU - 44 ABY. All that aside, however, Lost Tribe is pretty bad, even for free.
  24. If you're wanting to actually read the various EU works in chronological order, then you'll want to start with the Tales of the Jedi comic series. At present, those are the earliest works in the universe, though a new ongoing series entitled Dawn of the Jedi will be starting next month. That series will focus on the earliest days of the Jedi Order, before any schisms between light and dark side adherents. If you're simply wanting to read about the lore, rather than reading the various books and comics themselves, then Wookiepedia will likely be your best option.
  25. Star Wars: From the Adventures of Luke Skywalker was actually first published in 1976, prior to the theatrical release of Star Wars. I can't recall the novelizations of The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi all that well, but the prologue and other details in the novelization of the first film do make it worth reading. While Splinter of the Mind's Eye borrowed some elements from early Star Wars script drafts (the Kaiburr Crystal, for example), it was not written before Star Wars. It was written to provide the basis for a low-budget sequel if the first movie was not financially successful, and thus was published in early 1978.
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