Yeah, that would be an exaggeration and not anything that I've intended to say. However, being controlled, rooted, stunned, thrown etc. 1/2 to 2/3 of the time of EACH FIGHT is something I was trying to express my disdain for. It would also be a very accurate account of PvP in this game. Good idea, a step in the right direction. p.s. Love your sig

Okay, great, awesome. Glad the CC serves a purpose. Glad you like it. But... many people do not like being out of control of their character 1/2 to 2/3 of the time they are in a fight. It's not fun. Which is... what this thread is about. Thanks for your input!

Hi! OP here I don't think anyone has even suggested that we remove CC, have they? I agree, there is too much CC in the game. One last note, when they stop debating the validity of your point and fall back to attacking you personally... You are winning.

Don't you find yourself a bit condescending?

/agree This really needs to be addressed right this minute. With absolutely no rewarding world PvP we are left bored and logging out rather than playing.

Very well said!

Good call

Highest valor level: 61 (I know not War Hero yet read below) Unsub reason: Haven't yet but won't resub until they give us free transfers and/or cross server queuing. Would resub: yes. No, I'm not yet War Hero. I didn't kill trade in Ilum and I don't get a lot of play time. However, this is a great post and hopefully if people will follow the format BioWare will get some clear feedback from it. Hope you don't mind my contribution

Yeah a few adjustments may need to be made. I'm still leaning toward adding a 30 second CC immunity after you use a cc breaker...

Yes, it may be worse in other games, but it's still bad here. I wonder sometimes if CC is what happens when Devs run out of ideas. Despite all that's been said here, many of us are still spending 50 to 75 percent of all combat situations not in control of our characters. Whether it's stuns, roots, snares, throws, pulls, sleeps.... It's too much.

I feel you. It can certainly seem like that.

Yay Derian is back! It was a joke silly. Your sig says your class. Lighten up

Um... if I'm doing it in PvP is it still a "PvE" rotation? No, I think a little CC is fine. I just get very tired of constantly being out of control of my character, ya know?

Oh I know, some of the other MMOs over-use CC as well. On the other hand, stupidity is common in humans but it doesn't make it a good thing SWTOR is actually the... 10th MMO I have played on a consistent basis since 2004. With some obvious exceptions, it is one of the best. Just too much CC. I think a CC immunity after using the CC breaker could be an interesting approach and possibly the easiest to implement for the devs. Throw in into the bottom tier of one of the skill trees and make me spend points on it, I'm game.

This.... well, until you get on a Warzone team with me and then OMG LEARN2PLAY NUB!! Lol, just kidding, enjoy yourself. Find a guild (unless you are on one of the many deserted servers) and make some friends. They can share gameplay experience with you. In the end, how you play is how you play. Whether you play like everyone else or just stand in front of your computer holding the keyboard like Guitar Hero, it's your money

We have. Other classes bore Marauders.

Thanks for the input. Yeah I remember that. And posting similar threads to this on those forums too. Hopefully BW listens/cares more than Blizz did at the time.

Wait, we don't just spam Tracer Missle to victory while at ranged in heavy armor? OMG we get to use TWENTY abilities every single fight?!? Nerf us! Nerf us NAO!!!

Don't be silly, you know that only us Marauders need to be nerfed. Just look around the forums...

Well since it's on the Marauder not the Juggernaut I would have to guess it's medium. It looks a lot like the PvP Battlemaster Design but the colors aren't the same.

More and more I am coming to believe that MMOs are where IPs (Intellectual Properties) from other mediums go to die. MXO: (Shut down) The last we will probably ever see or hear of the Matrix universe. STO: (Currently F2P) the last vestige of the discarded "Prime" Star Trek timeline. DCUO: (Currently F2P) The last of the old DC Universe before they discarded it. Other IPs. I know there are a few more, just can't bring them to mind at the moment. Now, perhaps, SWTOR: George Lucas has already said he will not make another Star Wars movie. With the exception of some "expanded universe" media and this game, this IP has passed. Everyday we see people on other parts of these forums begging BioWare to do more to keep us playing. Sadly, EA has made their investment back and then some. They no longer have to care. I think sometimes that not being a creative force in the IP makes the MMO company not care so much and having sold out, the originators of the IPs lack the creative control or no longer care either. So the IP is used to make loads of money selling games and subscriptions until the last drop of blood is gone from it and it is truly and finally dead.

Bumped! This truly needs to happen right now. I personally have no plans to re-sub until some changes are made to this effect.

I really hate to get in this, but I just gotta say: While your damage and protection look good in those results, those numbers are not always indicative of any meaningful contribution to the match as a whole. A lot of times I've seen players do little more than run around trying to do as much damage as possible and letting the rest of the team focus on actually winning. Don't get me wrong, it's certainly not a hindrance to the team, but not always very helpful either. By contrast, I have to call attention to your Objectives score which was in the bottom four. There could certainly be other reasons for this but it could also mean that you run around damage farming in Warzones. On the other hand, if you are farming damage who can blame you? With all the CC going on near the important points in the match, why would you want to go near them?

Did you read the ORIGINAL POST... with CC defined in red....? To a Melee class roots are CC too