And I can name 10 force users that would wipe the floor with Vader. What's your point ?

You're safe with ranged. Melee gets B00tf00kd in this FP.

I'm actually giving it to Nihilus. That dude was stopped only by Meetra's "plot armor" thingy.

Which is *********** stupid. It means you can NOT pug it... I'm losing faith.

I agree, first boss is utterly impossible. We're all full columi/rakata, and we can't kill him. It's stupid. BioWare, you SUCK at bossdesigns.

And lol where the F do you get that from? That's a retarded quote, you know that right ?

Why even bother with anything if "that's the way it is!" ? I never understood that. It's an absolute, wich is a baaaad thing.

Rofl, you've been brainwashed by the canon-club....

So you don't think R2 could've made it hard for Luke ?

Canon or not, doesn't mean that one character will win VS everyone ya know.

Vitiate was not considered an abomination. He was recognized as a true sith lord by Marka Ragnos himself. Besides, stop saying "It's canon", those words hold no meaning whatsoever on these here forums.

They don't understand what we mean, to them, canon and GL's word is law, and nothing else. I can't understand how they can't understand that there are far too many variables for them to spew out their canon-"facts" and think they'd win every time. And now I'll be called a Revan fanboy when I say that what GL said is suggestive and not 110% cold hard facts.

I know, to you guys your own opinion is the only one. As I said, no room for logical debate in gods domain.

Sigh, for the last time ; Not everyone agrees. It's subjective. Understand that people have their own opinion about which heroes could win against who, and stop disrespecting that. These threads were made so we who like other people than Sidious and Vader could discuss what would happen if some of these heroes and villains met in an epic battle, and all you and your fellows can say is "Sidious is best" and "Vader is best rofl". I know you feel that "canon" and what GL says is the word of god and belongs in a bible, but that doesn't mean it's correct. There are too many variables for you to say "This is how that is, and that's how he is." all the time. Understand that. Thanks.

Again, in my opinion he wasn't. And Don't assume; I haven't forgotten anything. I just stated that Revan was still influencing Vitiate's mind.

Nawh, I'm just used to the fact that you guys cannot be discussed with because your opinion is the ONLY one. You're like a religion, ya know. (I'm instigating a rebellion against GL canon)

Keep going, fanboys

I'm just saying, you're part of the canon-club, the people that seem to NOT have the ability to form opinions for themselves. It's quite amusing to read.

"Originally Posted by _Zorth_ Canon is that Kreia is a liar, The golden age of the jedi was during the clone wars.. Canon is that Sidious is the most powerful sith lord ever to exist, near godlike and Vader is 80% of that. Canon is that Revan may have saved the galaxy from his own mistakes, but he never faced opponents or even won over opponents that are on teh power level of Vader, Palpatine, Luke, Dooku and all the other guys from the movie era." Isn't anything else than a mindless sheep that's been indoctrined.

Technically, Revan influenced the mind of Lord Vitiate... Obi couldn't even sense sidious' allignement, so there ya have it

Haha, the DE series.... You serious ? It's the worst written piece of *** since the original star wars. Thanks for the laugh, though

Canon this canon that. Seriously ? It's the lamest argument any mindless drone could spew out. Give it a rest, none of us care.

Vice versa, just because one mastered ONE for doesn't mean he can't be beaten.

So Obi could've beaten Windu ?

I said Sidious wasn't better than any given Jedi with a saber, since he lost to Windu. He basically told me in reply that Windu won because he won... You guys are really overexerting yourselves on this fanboyism of yours...