Solo pops take one or two minutes max

nevermind

nevermind

I've spoken to an elf and he told me you can get what you want for that price if you smuggle yourself to a different server (only 90cc per trip), such as T3-M4.

OK, so we still need to get the fleet one. Thanks for the info.

I cant see a unlock in my legacy for the fleet one though plus it has no datacron entry either so my question still stands I think.

If I have them all unlocked do I just have to get the fleet datacron on new characters now or is this unlocked somewhere too?

Am I missing something here or are all my gift fragments redundant now?

Am I missing something here or are all my gift fragments redundant now?

Read the 3rd post in this thread... Good for you. Anyway, I give up. I'm off to PvP in other games with my monthly budget. I'm a casual gamer who plays maybe 5 or 6 different games, sadly SWTOR isnt good enough value for it to be included at present and I doubt I'm the only one who thinks like that.

Well, I was sort of hoping for a debate. I have already stated I'm not willing to spend lots of money buying big packs but you've just told me to buy big packs! But, in a way, you are right. I will spend my time elsewhere.

Yeah no, read the third post in this thread...

The point I was making was I'm not going to sub. There is way too much (ever increasing) competition out there for me to sub to this game again. I would be a casual SWTOR player if the price's were better. I'm one example of an ex-player who will not be returning to the game, and as a few of you have said its cheaper with big purchases of subs/coins but in my OP I said this is exactly what I wont be doing... Now, coming to the SWTOR forums and telling people what I think about this is bound to attract many naturally biased subscribers (which is fine) telling me to subscribe but my opinion still stands and if you want TOR to survive with a healthy player base I hope somebody out there will listen.

Monthly CC cost for PvP Passes = 960 Say I bought the $9.99 pack for 1050 CC. So it costs me $9.13 for monthly PvP pass. That is not less than half the sub cost. I would also want to spend 1700 CC on two unlocks for action bars and artifact equipment as an extra cost.

If it only cost, say, $5 per month to PvP on a f2p account (even if I had to pay extra to unlock the needed action bars, gear etc) I might have actually come back, as PvP is what I only did when I subbed months ago. I do realise the more coins you buy the better the deal but I'm not dropping a big wad of cash all at once on a game I've already paid for in the past. As it stands I'm out, I'll see if the prices change in a few months time. Update: The point I was making was I'm not going to sub. There is way too much (ever increasing) competition out there for me to sub to this game again. I would be a casual SWTOR player if the price's were better. I'm one example of an ex-player who will not be returning to the game, and as a few of you have said its cheaper with big purchases of subs/coins but in my OP I said this is exactly what I wont be doing... Now, coming to the SWTOR forums and telling people what I think about this is bound to attract many naturally biased subscribers (which is fine) telling me to subscribe but my opinion still stands and if you want TOR to survive with a healthy player base I hope somebody out there will listen.

Actually, I'll post this in the PvP forum...

If it only cost, say, $5 per month to PvP on a f2p account (even if I had to pay extra to unlock the needed action bars, gear etc) I might have actually come back, as PvP is what I only did when I subbed months ago. I do realise the more coins you buy the better the deal but I'm not dropping a big wad of cash all at once on a game I've already paid for in the past. As it stands I'm out, I'll see if the prices change in a few months time.

Well my game time runs out tommorow and my mains are on Lord Calypho but with so few players and the state of PvP I gave up (I havent logged in now for maybe a month) however I did get excited about the transfers when I heard about them. I think now Im completely done with this game, its not mainly that they havent opened up the transfers, its that the devs here treat the playerbase with contempt pretty much. I recently played a beta weekend of another MMO (while mentioning no names its one where you just have to buy the game and its f2p from then on) and the devs were more than happy to reply to questions and problems in the forums and not leave them full of anger and wild speculation.

I'm going to have to get my PvP kicks elsewhere now, its sad because I really wanted this game to succeed but its lost my interest. The negatives for me now outweigh the positives. I guess I'll see where PvP is at in six months time or something. Good luck to those who stay, you're far braver than I am!

Yep, fix this. The lack of camera lock is silly.

Hey, the smart camera feature helped but a camera lock (I like max distance as possible) would be good. I'm fed up with zooming out every time I enter a new area (WZ etc) and quite alot of the time when I die the camera resets as well.

Are you serious? I'm not standing in direct LOS of all the enemy as a healer just so I'm next to an objective. I'm playing to win for my team, not collect medals. I'm not sure if you're trolling with your 2nd sentance either. Your post insinuates I don't know what I'm doing but I'm not going to write over a dozen posts in this thread defending my position like some people when to me it seems obvious the system needs fixing somewhat (if only to give a few extra healing medals, biased as I am as a healer) if it wants to keep people like me, with limited time, playing.

I'm a Commando Medic, just pugged the Civil War WZ. We were destroyed, I healed for 193k and got 2 medals. My rewards were exactly zero. I hardly come to these forums because of the QQ but to get exactly nothing for 15 minutes PvP is bullsh**.

Thanks for the answers.

I've heard a VIP vendor sells the +10 all stats Datacron for 1m credits....is this true?