Solo pops take one or two minutes max

nevermind

nevermind

I've spoken to an elf and he told me you can get what you want for that price if you smuggle yourself to a different server (only 90cc per trip), such as T3-M4.

OK, so we still need to get the fleet one. Thanks for the info.

I cant see a unlock in my legacy for the fleet one though plus it has no datacron entry either so my question still stands I think.

If I have them all unlocked do I just have to get the fleet datacron on new characters now or is this unlocked somewhere too?

Am I missing something here or are all my gift fragments redundant now?

Am I missing something here or are all my gift fragments redundant now?

Read the 3rd post in this thread... Good for you. Anyway, I give up. I'm off to PvP in other games with my monthly budget. I'm a casual gamer who plays maybe 5 or 6 different games, sadly SWTOR isnt good enough value for it to be included at present and I doubt I'm the only one who thinks like that.

Well, I was sort of hoping for a debate. I have already stated I'm not willing to spend lots of money buying big packs but you've just told me to buy big packs! But, in a way, you are right. I will spend my time elsewhere.

Yeah no, read the third post in this thread...

The point I was making was I'm not going to sub. There is way too much (ever increasing) competition out there for me to sub to this game again. I would be a casual SWTOR player if the price's were better. I'm one example of an ex-player who will not be returning to the game, and as a few of you have said its cheaper with big purchases of subs/coins but in my OP I said this is exactly what I wont be doing... Now, coming to the SWTOR forums and telling people what I think about this is bound to attract many naturally biased subscribers (which is fine) telling me to subscribe but my opinion still stands and if you want TOR to survive with a healthy player base I hope somebody out there will listen.

Monthly CC cost for PvP Passes = 960 Say I bought the $9.99 pack for 1050 CC. So it costs me $9.13 for monthly PvP pass. That is not less than half the sub cost. I would also want to spend 1700 CC on two unlocks for action bars and artifact equipment as an extra cost.

If it only cost, say, $5 per month to PvP on a f2p account (even if I had to pay extra to unlock the needed action bars, gear etc) I might have actually come back, as PvP is what I only did when I subbed months ago. I do realise the more coins you buy the better the deal but I'm not dropping a big wad of cash all at once on a game I've already paid for in the past. As it stands I'm out, I'll see if the prices change in a few months time. Update: The point I was making was I'm not going to sub. There is way too much (ever increasing) competition out there for me to sub to this game again. I would be a casual SWTOR player if the price's were better. I'm one example of an ex-player who will not be returning to the game, and as a few of you have said its cheaper with big purchases of subs/coins but in my OP I said this is exactly what I wont be doing... Now, coming to the SWTOR forums and telling people what I think about this is bound to attract many naturally biased subscribers (which is fine) telling me to subscribe but my opinion still stands and if you want TOR to survive with a healthy player base I hope somebody out there will listen.