ah well you finding them to be a waste doesn't change me not finding them to be waste at all.

Your fine to stick to the movie lore but theres nothing in the movies saying jedi luke or other wise were immune to sith mind control at best it never came up. If your limiting your lore to movies you really shouldn't complain about a games lore one way or the other. At best it's in a format you don;t care about in which case your complaint is rather weak, at worse your woefully ignorant to make any such criticism.

i am curious if you could of saved only one of them (that one being your apprentice either instead of or in addition to xalek) and the other died which would people save corrin or kaal? in general i can't say i agree they were wasted they served their purpose rather well. They were suppose to be the likable followers that the big bad could kill to make you hate him. if you could just say meh i don;t care that they died then they would of been a waste.

Sounds like a small lose temporary win or not corellia was never the empires and the infrastructure lose there is a terrible blow to the republic. The emperor being dead will be more then made up for when people learn the emperor is in fact not dead it'll just make him seem that much more unkillable. Malgus is a second tier darth easily replaced even easier then the dark council members. a dozen dead people isn;t enough to put the empre in shambles your making things out to be far far worse then they are.

@jlazarillo your misquoting him he says zash's disobedience not her death demanded the deconstruction of her power base. he delayed it because according to the tradition he holds so dear he technically couldn't punish her until your inquisitor gave him the pretence he needed. He does indeed know it was the inquisitor that killed her the very first conversation you have with him after killing zash has a path that has him say your murder was sloppy even brazin and too many people saw you enter the temple to kill zash. if what you were saying was true he'd have to kill him self for killing his superior on the dark council but no he followed the traditions on that murder so he's clear. @slowpokeking yes sith sociaty is all about cruelity power betrayal and backstabbing what you seem to have a hard time grasping is that all of those come with RULES that must be followed. you have to betray them in the correct way. if it had just been about power Kharrid could of just blown gravus away immediately. instead she had to lure him into firing first (thus satisfying the tradition on the correct way to murder him) , and it's easy to be level headed when your miles away from the danger as gravus was on taris. Quite another to be so level headed facing a ship you know can destroy you. he had a very hot headed apprentice me thinks this weakness was always there below the surface i see no evidence that annihilation ruined his character at all. heres a quote from moff pyron that might make you both understand where the inquisitor whent wrong and thanaton didn;t pyron on weither your get thanatons powerbase after killing him pyron: only if they can't prove it was you isnt that how you sith work?

this is so completely wrong in every way . i am so going to sound like a total jerk (i mean more so then i inevitably end up sounding) but if you don;t understand the tradition don't try and explain it. also what the heck does your first sentence mean? it;s entirely contradictory to it's self.

where did it come from? it came from thousands of years of sith having to live together with out whiping them selves completely out. backstabs betrayals are all great and incouraged as long as they follow the tradition/ rules that gareenteed that you actually had to work for it. it also came from a sith's natural caution and fear of retribution. That in a sense is what thanaton fears is that if the tradition isn't followed sith will just throw caution to the wind and murder each other until nothing remains. thanaton liked those betrayals and backstabs becuase they followed the tradition thanaton is talking about like i said there are clear rules to how such things should be done. karrid had to make gravius fire the first shot she couldn't just blast him or rather she could but it'd break the tradition. Nox won a traditional battle who's whole reason for exisisting was for just such an occasion. thanaton's tradition is basically the reason why sith can stay in power with out killing some one every two seconds it's why sith that meet each other don't instantly fight. by the way are you sure he liked naga shadow? i know he liked tulak hord and i think he liked ludo kressh (or maybe he was just noting that he participated in the ritual fight i can;t remeber) but i don;t think he likes naga shadow.

there definetely is a tradition in the sith of when it's acceptable to murder your superiors and when it isn't acceptable several dark lords have ignored it true but you'd be surprised how many haven't. , I/zash/apparently you say its fine to ignore that tradition thanaton believes that ignoring that tradition will ruin the sith and turn them into indescrimanate murderers something which they really aren't at the moment. there are rules to follow when you want to murder your superiors zash didn;t want to follow them but did so she was safe from thanaton. you as her apprentice didn't follow them so you became the suragate target for his rage at zash.

what part of me saying it was clear the empire was losing did you not understand? The novel could say the republic has already won if it wanted to(it didn;t not even close). It wouldn't change the game from showing something completely different. not to mention that very encyclopedia says the empires key to victory is right around the corner. the arguement i put forward was never that the empire wasn't losing but that it hasn;t really lost all that much up to this point despite being on the losing end. it hasn' lost any world it had under it's controll that we know off or it got it back right after losing it. It has lost quite a number of dark council members which has effected it but there are lines of dark council wantabees out there, and all they need is to find the one that clicks in a particular spot to turn everything around.

that was pretty well explained darth (then lord zash) was thanatons underling and not only was she pro-freedom anti traditional (something that ticks thanaton off by it's self.) she also disobeyed a direct order (do not kill skotia) with the way sith think disobeying an order from a superior means she and every one associated with her has to die. the problem is he couldn't prove it and according to the tradition he likes so much that means she should get away scott free (it's only murder if your caught). So thanaton had a problem on the one hand he knows zash is antitradition and has killed skotia in defiance of every thing he holds sacred on the other he can;t actually prove it so everything he holds sacred says he has to let it slide. you on the other hand had many witnesses see you go into the temple to kill zash. Which makes you an easy scapegoat to replace zash as the target of his rage at being disobeyed and you broke tradition (becuase of your supposed murder of zash being so open and common knowledge if you will.)

corellia and especially voss were never the empires in the first place and the war pretty much wasting corellia is a solid win for the empire though a costly one. As for the novel i did say it was clear the empire was losing but 1. Novels always dramatize things, and every thing in it was basically saying we are losing until we start winning. Or in the novels owen words "unless something changes we will lose" which means as soon as something changes they will start winning. and 2. The republic lost alot while they were trying to lure the super weapon into a trap a super weapon which by the way always seemed to be in trouble in every battle it participated in. Oh and 3. The novel flat out failed to properly display the scope of each sides fighting power dumbing the numbers down by a factor of ten so why should i or any one be concerned that it displays the republic in a good light?

empire really hasn't lost all that much a lot of dark council sure but theres always some one waiting to replace those as far as we know we haven;t even lost a planet since balmorra. the empire is losing that is clear but i don;t understand where all this the empire has lost soo much attitude is coming from.

it's not murder if your in a war and the other side either attacks you first or would attack you first if given the chance.

1. I would of liked to have the choice of picking either kaal or corrin as your apprentice with other one dying. xalek seemed particulary forced as my sith inquisitor is both mostly light side alignment as wall as a believer in following the sith code. i was as determinded as harkon to have him killed for such a blazen murder. his conversations seem weak he doesn;t seem to fit in even if your darkside, though i will say he isn;t as bad as jaesa willsaam who is either a zombie crying for blood or a lets not hurt a fly niny. 2. i'd also like to see more companion missions.

I agree completely with this and i love your sig as well.

sith Inquisitor 10/10 Darth zash is hands down my favorite character of any character arcs. and i really really liked all of the chapters they were all amazing. Sith Warrior so far 8/10 it has some cool gimicks and the story certainly has moments. but Baras and him forcing you to basically cut off your noise to spite your face really ruins it for me the rest i haven't done enough to judge yet.

comments like this are a waste of time.

did they mention the silencer by name as being part of that collection of super weapons? becuase last i chacked that was a part of me and moff pyron or whatever his name was and not some other darth. At any case i doubt it's been destroyed.

If your wanting the most beneficial path they are all pretty much the same so far. But i think that force prosauding them has the most potential to become beneficial in the long run. They are almost certainly scam artists but they are resourceful and gutsy scam artists so i figured better to have them working for me then not.

sigh i give up everything your saying is wrong on so many levels but i have pointed that out too many times already and you just come back saying yes i know that but saying the same things. at this point theres nothing more to say and frankly this conversation has become beyond boring. bottom line is the SI is still the only class i have felt interesting enough to finish and the only class i have created a second character with the intention of completing the same story again again.

uh yeah you do, do it other people might of told you it was a good idea but your the person that does it and your the person that makes it work. You seem to be throwing a fit that you aren't omniknowing and don;t know how to kill a dark council member right after graduating from being an apprentice. becuase you know you should definitely know who to kill one of the twelve most powerful sith immediately after being an apprentice /sarcasm. i don;t know about you but i wouldn't want to micromanage my cult down to every last detail and you already get the option to change who is leading it in your name twice don't like pladius choose kaylee don;t like her choose the veil.

your a darth at the very end of that story after that point i absolutely agree the sith inquisitor should have an impact and once the story continues i expect to see it as it only makes sense. before that point theres no reason why you should have an impact and i fail to see how making an impact just to make an impact is in any way desirable. the story and your competence/power has already risen meteorically fast as it is i wouldn't want to see it rise any faster and frankly i would of loved the pace to be much much slower atleast a few chapters slower. you talk about sideous but that was the end result of decades of hiding in the shadows doing exactly what the inquisitor is doing learning/finding powerful darkside rituals and building a powerbase. edit not to mention giving out a super weapon to all the moffs that side with you and killing a dark council member is a pretty big impact to me. also your cult is now the biggest supplier of a highly advanced and highly illegal processor just what could they have your cult have access to next? you could use the money coming from that to buy more power and influence in latter chapters.

uh it is your imperial agent weither you are still loyal to the empire or if you aren;t is totally up to you. for instance you will get the option to decide weither certain people who might be important to the republic live or die. if your loyal to the empire they should probably die. if your not you can help save them on the other hand i suppose it's remotely possable to let them live and still be loyal to the empire it depends what chapter 4 brings us for those that choose the republic.

some people have such a narrow version of how a sith should act alot of people have been tired of the supposed this is the way sith are for a very long time. there is nothing in the sith code or in channelling strong emotion that makes them have to act the way certain people insist they have to. the sith inquisitor actually explores this which is what alot of people have asked for. there are times in the story where people question you speciffically on weither how you act is appropriate for a sith and the answer you can give is it's in the sith code that the force will set me free or in other words being bound to only act a certain way is against the code which is meant to give the sith freedom the most powerful free sith will determine what shape that freedom takes not the code it's self.. @ the post above me i for the most part agree and don;t have any arguement with any thing you have said. without a doubt the sw has more galatic impact so far though the SI is in a better position to be so in the future. also i might add that the SI kills a few masters on taris and corrupts a padawan that while not having a speciffic power persay is noted to be a very skilled combatant. I don;t find the sw to have the better story and i don;t consider greater impact to be necessarily better particulary when so much of the greater impact is doing thing you know weakens you in the long run. after saying i have no arguement i whent and argueed it didn;t i? but i think our differences just come down to taste,

well truethfully i haven't yet finished the sith warriors story and i am aware that it can't really be as bad as i am portraying it as. i am mostly responding in kind to the op's rediculous SI rant that is so wrong on so many levels it's pathetic. also in the silcener battle it's only ever one empire capital ship in danger vs a whole republic fleet even the dark side choices is a net profit and it's totally possable to save the sith capital ship. as for the jedi strike team it's a battle before the war actually starts in full. where you do a preventive strike against a strike team the organa's are assembling against house thul and it's actually possible to not do it. i am assuming the cannon one did becuase why wouldn't a sith kill jedi? unless he really is as self focused as others have said at any rate no matter what happens you kill a powerful jedi master on alderaan even if you don;t kill the strike team. how ever i have seen all the SW videos and while i am sure i missing some subtext i'll stand by the SI being better story wise and for the empire as a whole. alot of powerful people including alot of moffs and darth decimus think thanton having power is a huge mistake and they regard the SI inexperienced as he/she maybe to be a huge improvement. you don;t have to look very far to see how very wrong thanton is about everything he tries to stand for,