Island_Jedi Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) I don't even understand either why do you have 100 percent accuracy. Most good sorcs know you need at least 2000 alacrity. Alacrity above 2000 automatically increases you're force damage by 1000 and nobody talks about the effect it has on you're rolls. I have won so much good loot on my toons because of enhanced rolls thanks to all my alacrity. If you're gonna write a guide please explain to me why a force user would have accuracy anyway THEY DONT USE WEAPONS! Edited June 16, 2016 by Island_Jedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greezt Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) I don't even understand either why do you have 100 percent accuracy. Most good sorcs know you need at least 2000 alacrity. Alacrity above 2000 automatically increases you're force damage by 1000 and nobody talks about the effect it has on you're rolls. I have won so much good loot on my toons because of enhanced rolls thanks to all my alacrity. If you're gonna write a guide please explain to me why a force user would have accuracy anyway THEY DONT USE WEAPONS! Lol. /5char Edit: this is obviously a troll, I only just noticed. Edited June 16, 2016 by Greezt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Island_Jedi Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 I have gone back and changed so much of my guide to make it "correct", but I refuse to change my stance on accuracy and alacrity. Is it trolling to help people win more of their rolls?!?!?! That bonus 1000 force damage is going to do more than 10 extra ticks of affliction anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UberSamoyed Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 I have gone back and changed so much of my guide to make it "correct", but I refuse to change my stance on accuracy and alacrity. Is it trolling to help people win more of their rolls?!?!?! That bonus 1000 force damage is going to do more than 10 extra ticks of affliction anyway. What "rolls" are you referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memo- Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Since OP didn't actually include Accuracy in his guide at all, I think he might be serious about not needing it. Worry not, you're wrong again, as usual. All DPS classes and specs want 110% accuracy for endgame PvE, because all bosses have a 10% resist/defense chance against all damage types. Before 2.0 (I think, someone can correct me if I recall incorrectly) Sorcs and Concelment Operatives didn't need Accuracy because the bosses did *not* have that innate defense. But now they do, and everyone needs to stack enough Accuracy for that defense to not matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Island_Jedi Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 Since OP didn't actually include Accuracy in his guide at all, I think he might be serious about not needing it. Worry not, you're wrong again, as usual. All DPS classes and specs want 110% accuracy for endgame PvE, because all bosses have a 10% resist/defense chance against all damage types. Before 2.0 (I think, someone can correct me if I recall incorrectly) Sorcs and Concelment Operatives didn't need Accuracy because the bosses did *not* have that innate defense. But now they do, and everyone needs to stack enough Accuracy for that defense to not matter. Accuracy is only needed by Sorcerers if they choose to use vibroswords otherwise you're not actually using a weapon that can be tracked with accuracy. The Force attacks you deal can automatically hit you're target if you're target is weak to the force(Most bosses have weakness to force}. Also the rolls I speak of are random loot rolls. When you down a boss and the op leader calls for a roll. The higher you're alacrity the better you're chance to not get low rolls for loot. For example i type /roll i never get below 50 because i have 1000+ alacrity which means i have 1000 innate plus gear is 1000 so i end up in my sweetspot of 2000+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Island_Jedi Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) This is the same reason i was omitting the crushing darkness from my rotation because of the force weakness debuff which makes all my attacks hit the boss without fail. I did some parsing and apparently its better if i include crushing darkness on cooldown as much as i can, but it seems that i miss quite a bit. Even with the bosses that have weakness to force. Hopefully my alacrity will do enough damage for the misses on force resistant bosses. but being able to win almost every loot drop in a pug is an amazing boon. 2000 alacrity for the win! It has been fun Edited June 16, 2016 by Island_Jedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greezt Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Accuracy is only needed by Sorcerers if they choose to use vibroswords otherwise you're not actually using a weapon that can be tracked with accuracy. The Force attacks you deal can automatically hit you're target if you're target is weak to the force(Most bosses have weakness to force}. Also the rolls I speak of are random loot rolls. When you down a boss and the op leader calls for a roll. The higher you're alacrity the better you're chance to not get low rolls for loot. For example i type /roll i never get below 50 because i have 1000+ alacrity which means i have 1000 innate plus gear is 1000 so i end up in my sweetspot of 2000+. Definitely a troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UberSamoyed Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) Epic. All this time I was taking rolls like a chump. I guess I should generate a full set of "roll gear" with alacrity enhancements and augments and switch into it for every loot roll. Edited June 16, 2016 by UberSamoyed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benficakungfu Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Hehe you are very gifted in being stupid! Thanks for all rhe laughs!! It has indeed been fun!!!!11one!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihatethislife Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Thank you so much for writing this guide. I'm in Sion's guild, so it's good to see him knocked down a few pegs. Frankly, he doesn't know what he's talking about. He's a nice guy, but stupid is as stupid does. I'm surprised Sion can write, much less presume to correct a master of this spec, such as yourself. Who needs extra dps anyway? Not me, that's for sure. If you're a truly elite player, you'll gladly welcome the handicaps that you see right here in this guide. I don't need Sion's "data" to show me if I need accuracy. Sorcs don't use weapons! The only time a Sorc needs accuracy is if you're healing, that way you can heal the exact spot of the wound (This is actually what doctors do in real life. Trust me, I've met some.) This guide is only for masters of the class. Sorry Sion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthCognusSion Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Thank you so much for writing this guide. I'm in Sion's guild, so it's good to see him knocked down a few pegs. Frankly, he doesn't know what he's talking about. He's a nice guy, but stupid is as stupid does. I'm surprised Sion can write, much less presume to correct a master of this spec, such as yourself. Who needs extra dps anyway? Not me, that's for sure. If you're a truly elite player, you'll gladly welcome the handicaps that you see right here in this guide. I don't need Sion's "data" to show me if I need accuracy. Sorcs don't use weapons! The only time a Sorc needs accuracy is if you're healing, that way you can heal the exact spot of the wound (This is actually what doctors do in real life. Trust me, I've met some.) This guide is only for masters of the class. Sorry Sion. Obvious troll is obvious Valins. Better luck next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UberSamoyed Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 I will win all the rolls now. I've already generated an alacrity heavy gear set specifically for outrolling Valins And Sion. I'm just curious if this unknown exploit accounts for Mara's and Sorcs alacrity buffs. All the rolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicRider Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) The only time a Sorc needs accuracy is if you're healing, that way you can heal the exact spot of the wound (This is actually what doctors do in real life. Trust me, I've met some.) This guide is only for masters of the class. Sorry Sion. You are forgetting the 10% miss when clicking a teammate in the ops frame. Actually when healing I play with 115% accuracy, just to be sure when my teammates pop a dcd (dodge being the worst). Edited June 16, 2016 by MusicRider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihatethislife Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Obvious troll is obvious Valins. Better luck next time. I don't know what you're talking about, you maniac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihatethislife Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 I will win all the rolls now. I've already generated an alacrity heavy gear set specifically for outrolling Valins And Sion. I'm just curious if this unknown exploit accounts for Mara's and Sorcs alacrity buffs. All the rolls. It's helpful if you burn an alacrity adrenal before the rolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UberSamoyed Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 It's helpful if you burn an alacrity adrenal before the rolls. Me: Ultimate Exarch Offhand....roll. (team rolls) Me: 3, 2,1... (check if all alacrity buffs/adrenals have expired, pop mine and roll) Me: Rolls closed. All the rolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Island_Jedi Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) Wow I cannot believe you guys did not know about the alacrity being so good on rolls I would for sure bring an alacrity adrenal before rolling on all loot. It does seem to mess with the force resistance of the next boss though. All the jokes about doctors and accuracy is dumb though.....you see they don't use weapons they use tools. That is another reason using it for DPS is stupid! I always make sure its up for the roll at the end of boss kill. Ten ticks of affliction vs winning the loot. easy choice! Edited June 16, 2016 by Island_Jedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Island_Jedi Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) Hehe you are very gifted in being stupid! Thanks for all rhe laughs!! It has indeed been fun!!!!11one!! The joke is on you! Just wait till that epic main hand lands your way because of all the alacrity you got on. One of my guildies had so much alacrity on that his lightning bolt actually activated again. It seemed like the attack did less damage like 1/3 or 1/4 which is weird. The same thing happened with thundering blast and chain lightning the animation went off twice. I believe I have discovered that alacrity affects each class differently as well. In the case of sorcs it causes multistirkes. I did not see mention of this in Sions guide, which is odd considering how "in depth" it was. Edited June 16, 2016 by Island_Jedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicRider Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) One of my guildies had so much alacrity on that his lightning bolt actually activated again. It seemed like the attack did less damage like 1/3 or 1/4 which is weird. The same thing happened with thundering blast and chain lightning the animation went off twice. I believe I have discovered that alacrity affects each class differently as well. In the case of sorcs it causes multistirkes. I did not see mention of this in Sions guide, which is odd considering how "in depth" it was. LOLOLOL. ARE YOU FOR REAL? LOLOLOLOL. Whether trolling or are dumb beyond comprehension, who cares? It is still LOLOLOL. PS: Put down the guide plz. You are in no position to write any form of guide for any class to be honest. Edited June 17, 2016 by MusicRider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Island_Jedi Posted June 17, 2016 Author Share Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) I am explaining the way alacrity works and iam dumb!?!?!?!!?!? You said more DPS so iam showing the server how to get more DPS. multistrikes are amazing on sorcs and explain to me why when I use polarity shift it gives me more multisrikes its BECAUSE I have more alacrity. Same thing when I roll for loot I always activate Polarity shift for better rolls on the loot. I might have discovered the biggest boost to DPS sorcs have ever seen! I recommend everyone test and see what alacrity does for you're specific class. Edited June 17, 2016 by Island_Jedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicRider Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) I am explaining the way alacrity works and iam dumb!?!?!?!!?!? You said more DPS so iam showing the server how to get more DPS. multistrikes are amazing on sorcs and explain to me why when I use polarity shift it gives me more multisrikes its BECAUSE I have more alacrity. Same thing when I roll for loot I always activate Polarity shift for better rolls on the loot. I might have discovered the biggest boost to DPS sorcs have ever seen! I recommend everyone test and see what alacrity does for you're specific class. LOL. Please, open your discipline tree and read them once mate. It also explains the "weird" to you things, like why it does 1/4 of the damage, why you get "multi-strikes" (try lightning flash also, you will "discover something new"), or why during polarity you get more "multi strikes". Now please put down the guide, you are not only lacking sage/sorc knowledge but also general game mechanics. We had our laughs but new players that don't know better might fall for the mistake of this thread if they don't read a bit further. Edited June 17, 2016 by MusicRider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Island_Jedi Posted June 17, 2016 Author Share Posted June 17, 2016 Fair enough it was fun while it lasted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcAngelSeth Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Ok looks like you were right Recklessness does not boost the surge of the attack. TY for the correction That's a common misconception actually...Thundering blast DOES have a super crit. But it's RNG and you can not plan for it. It just happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Island_Jedi Posted June 18, 2016 Author Share Posted June 18, 2016 That's a common misconception actually...Thundering blast DOES have a super crit. But it's RNG and you can not plan for it. It just happens. Whos trolling who here? There is only room for one troll and that's me:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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