Albertwang Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Their lack of mobility is incredible and our pvp officer won't even allow gunslingers on our ranked team. I assume because in ranked warzones they can be killed easily due to lack of mobility? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerSchneider Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Their lack of mobility is incredible and our pvp officer won't even allow gunslingers on our ranked team. I assume because in ranked warzones they can be killed easily due to lack of mobility? Good sniper/guns can be VERY strong in team ranked, your pvp officer is a noob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metthew Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Good sniper/guns can be VERY strong in team ranked, your pvp officer is a noob.Best burst DPS after AP PT, in fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoidrinali Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Could be a sign that your pvp officer and the rest of the ranked team doesn't know how to play with a gunslinger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shyroman Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 They are terrible in solo ranked because they are so highly dependent on their team (not something that can be relied upon), but with a solid team of support *cough team ranked *cough* they can be extremely good. I have to agree with everyone else, your pvp officer doesn't understand the strengths of a sniper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxtwofivexx Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 They're actually one of the best to play in team ranked with the right comp. Some of the best teams in this game have a MM sniper and focus on doing traditional brutal hard swaps. The meta is constantly changing in terms of different strategies, but sniper is really strong right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarlson Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Good sniper/guns can be VERY strong in team ranked, your pvp officer is a noob. My first thought as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaladan Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 so, one spec strong in one category : ranked team arena. ok ...i don't know exaclty the % of grouped ranked in the PvP environment but i think i can say it's not really an amazing statment for snipers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodrin Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 so, one spec strong in one category : ranked team arena. ok ...i don't know exaclty the % of grouped ranked in the PvP environment but i think i can say it's not really an amazing statment for snipers. They are currently not terrible in solo ranked. Not great, but not terrible. Considering merc/mando does not have a single spec that does well in solo ranked I would be thankful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arehonn Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 (edited) so, one spec strong in one category : ranked team arena. ok ...i don't know exaclty the % of grouped ranked in the PvP environment but i think i can say it's not really an amazing statment for snipers. All of the specs are strong in reg arenas. Sab Slinger currently the best parsing DPS spec in the game for PvE. Gunsliger/Sniper is in a great place right now. Edited November 16, 2015 by Arehonn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeahokaylol Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) snipers hit ppl so hard they start twerkin http://imgur.com/eNAmZex Edited November 18, 2015 by yeahokaylol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lalainnia Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 snipers hit ppl so hard they start twerkin http://imgur.com/eNAmZex that prob like lighting sorcs moves being counted as one or you sincerely rekted some poor soul they must have been in some kinda awful centurion/champion/battle master gear to get blown up that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotorCityMan Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) Ya snipers/slingers are soooo strong in ranked and pvp and everything. That's why they have been dead last by a long shot for the last couple of years. Edited November 19, 2015 by MotorCityMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyMcNeely Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) Two things: 1. Gunslingers/Snipers hit like trucks these days. If anyone has enough neurons to peel for you, you'll be a beast. 2. Your guildmate calls himself a "PvP Officer"? What a pretentious blowhard... Edited November 19, 2015 by RodneyMcNeely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotorCityMan Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) Everyone hits like trucks these days. Snipers do no more damage than any other class. Look at the parses. Engineering is on top of raid parses by a tiny fraction because npcs are too stupid to move out of AoEs. All that damage goes out the window in a wz. Other than that, snipers are middle of the pack. Saying that if a sniper had someone peeling, or guard, or healing or something else is exactly the point. They are not a complete pvp class. They are a gimped class that badly needs help like someone peeling or, better yet, a strong defensive CD, to survive and function in a warzone. They are always the first class focused because they are easy kills. Bioware tried the ridiculous and silly "glass cannon" archetype with sorcerers for years, telling sorcs they were "easy to play but hard to master" and could "heal to full" Stubborn as they are, they continue similar nonsense with snipers/slingers. The pvp officer is smart and being fair. Why saddle 3 other players with a liability? I am repeating myself, but again, they have been dead last by a long shot for the last few seasons because they are garbage in pvp, not because they are some fantastic undiscovered class that no one knows about. Edited November 19, 2015 by MotorCityMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoidrinali Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 So basically you are saying the officer and the others don't know how to play play with a sniper... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lalainnia Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Everyone hits like trucks these days. Snipers do no more damage than any other class. Look at the parses. Engineering is on top of raid parses by a tiny fraction because npcs are too stupid to move out of AoEs. All that damage goes out the window in a wz. Other than that, snipers are middle of the pack. Saying that if a sniper had someone peeling, or guard, or healing or something else is exactly the point. They are not a complete pvp class. They are a gimped class that badly needs help like someone peeling or, better yet, a strong defensive CD, to survive and function in a warzone. They are always the first class focused because they are easy kills. Bioware tried the ridiculous and silly "glass cannon" archetype with sorcerers for years, telling sorcs they were "easy to play but hard to master" and could "heal to full" Stubborn as they are, they continue that nonsense with snipers/slingers. The pvp officer is smart and being fair. Why saddle 3 other players with a liability? I am repeating myself, but again, they have been dead last by a long shot for the last few seasons because they are garbage in pvp, not because they are some fantastic undiscovered class that no one knows about. Snipers are above average in terms of dps and have always hit hard. Nothing about them is gimped they are a ranged version of maras excluding watchmen in terms of self sufficient. Most important thing when it comes to snipers defensive cds is that they are pretty much the hardest in the game to use properly because they don't last long other then entrench/hunker down. Main reason snipers get hunted down first is that they have no healing outside of medpac. Even with all of this they are the best ranged dps in killing power so at least in solo ranked the first 20 seconds( now 40) nothing can stop you from dpsing other then another sniper los or another sniper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitusOfTides Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) Snipers and Gunslingers have the hardest hiting ability in the game right now, specifically Marskman/Sharpshooter. This is a new thing, as the update changed how crits work by introducing super crits. A super crit ambush/aimed shot does more damage than any other ability atm. Also, while the rotation is easy the class is harder to play than most think. If you use your controlling and escape effects properly you can adapt to any situation. Also, also, your "PvP Officer" is a fool. Edited November 19, 2015 by TitusOfTides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlrikFassbauer Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 In teresting that I only read here voices of "team ranked" players. What about the other parts of PvP ? In solo ranked, they are garbage, and in unranked, too. Except lowbie PvP, maybe. So, in that 1 % that is "team ranked", the Gunslinger shines - but ONLY because of the support ! Without support, the Gunslinger is *nothing* - hence bad at the 99 % rest of PvP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotorCityMan Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) Saying that because a marksman has an ability to hit a tiny fraction harder once every minute in a warzone makes it viable is, well, silly. As if that was all there was to it. Edited November 19, 2015 by MotorCityMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGITSJAD Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 In solo ranked, they are garbage, and in unranked, too. Except lowbie PvP, maybe. Without support, the Gunslinger is *nothing* - hence bad at the 99 % rest of PvP. Agree that Snipers are garbage in solo ranked but disagree that Snipers are garbage in unranked. Basically every spec and class out there is at least okay for unranked. Some top the damage board more easily or cap points more easily, but that's just how it is. Every Sniper spec is good for unranked and while it's harder to solo a node or score in Huttball than with other classes better suited for it, it's easy to do top damage if played correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lalainnia Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 In teresting that I only read here voices of "team ranked" players. What about the other parts of PvP ? In solo ranked, they are garbage, and in unranked, too. Except lowbie PvP, maybe. So, in that 1 % that is "team ranked", the Gunslinger shines - but ONLY because of the support ! Without support, the Gunslinger is *nothing* - hence bad at the 99 % rest of PvP. They only stink in solo ranked pvp because teams don't tend to have a healer or tank and the norm is 4v4 in that match up its kill or be killed and most of the time a sniper can contribute a great deal to killing someone problem is your most likely going to die early because you have no source of self healing which leaves you to rely heavily on the rest o your team and its even less favorable for snipers if stealth or another sniper is present on the other team. As for reg warzone if your performing poorly you either have no healer, pew pewing from an awful position or just inexperienced. Snipers have practical no issues what so ever getting out amazing dps on a sniper its best to position like a healer near los points. Another point is a ton of snipers are honestly awful see so many struggle with the basic mechanic of cover. Snipers are able to put out great overall damage/dps and bring trauma. Only really 2 main weakness snipers suffer from, #1 being self healing non existent and #2 roots, a rooted sniper rooted sniper is a dead sniper luckily they have a decent counter to that with seek cover utility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shyroman Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 In teresting that I only read here voices of "team ranked" players. What about the other parts of PvP ? In solo ranked, they are garbage, and in unranked, too. Except lowbie PvP, maybe. So, in that 1 % that is "team ranked", the Gunslinger shines - but ONLY because of the support ! Without support, the Gunslinger is *nothing* - hence bad at the 99 % rest of PvP. The op specifically asked about team ranked, that's why everyone is referring to that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotorCityMan Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) Ya, "If played correctly"..... like the devs said about sages/sorcs before they gave them a defensive CD "easy to play, hard to master". I still get a chuckle from that quote. If you would only L2P, snipers/slingers would rocket up the leaderboards, to claim their rightful place among the pvp elite................Zzzzzzzzzzzzz In the meantime, they are the bottom 3%, and the season before were at the bottom, and the season before that. Placing blame on a pvp officer for acting on the obvious is a little misplaced, eh? Edited November 19, 2015 by MotorCityMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitusOfTides Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 In the meantime, they are the bottom 3%, and the season before were at the bottom, and the season before that. Placing blame on a pvp officer for acting on the obvious is a little misplaced, eh? That is referring to how things were. How things ARE is much different now. We could base things off of how they were at launch, even, but 4.0 changed a lot. They have the highest burst now. A bad Sniper/Slinger performs badly. A good one performs well. Even in solo. Defending a "pvp officer" for using outdated information regarding the state of play is foolish too, but you're probably the same person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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