Wolfninjajedi Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) What are you talking about the wrath had his hands crossed while Nox gathered power. you gather power by crossing your hands? .... The videos linked, you watched them right? You saw Wrath You saw Nox yes? You saw them approach the door? Now did you see in both separate videos, where they gathered up power and destroyed the door? That's what happened, the videos are separate. Though I'm not sure why they were posted as Vader and Dooku have show the ability to destroy doors too Edited July 18, 2015 by Wolfninjajedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adormitul Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 .... The videos linked, you watched them right? You saw Wrath You saw Nox yes? You saw them approach the door? Now did you see in both separate videos, where they gathered up power and destroyed the door? I thought that the sith pureblood was the wrath. I thought you said both of them gathered power and destroyed the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 I thought that the sith pureblood was the wrath. I thought you said both of them gathered power and destroyed the door. They did in their instances, hence why I said "If you notice in those instances." I didn't say 1 instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adormitul Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 They did in their instances, hence why I said "If you notice in those instances." I didn't say 1 instance. Yep you said I understood wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChazDoit Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Also there's more evidence beyond that indicating that Nox has powerful TK powers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Regardless, I'm pretty sure neither Nox nor Wrath have shown TK ability on Vader's level, nor the refined control and precision of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChazDoit Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) Regardless, I'm pretty sure neither Nox nor Wrath have shown TK ability on Vader's level, nor the refined control and precision of it. Nox doesn't have Force Push as a game ability, but he used it on cutscenes, with the backing of several force ghost, there's not telling the extent of his Telekinetic powers or Lightning abilities. Edited July 18, 2015 by ChazDoit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adormitul Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Regardless, I'm pretty sure neither Nox nor Wrath have shown TK ability on Vader's level, nor the refined control and precision of it. That is a good example of the wrath control of TK. What do you think is it refined and has precision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 That is a good example of the wrath control of TK. What do you think is it refined and has precision? I'm not seeing the instance, what time is it at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adormitul Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 minute 44. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 minute 44. That's nothing special really, plenty of others have done that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adormitul Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) That's nothing special really, plenty of others have done that. Most of that but was there anyone who lifted someone pushed it on a wall and crushed something killing him all with TK? Again is it refined and with precision? And can you tell of a example in where Vader showed better precision and refinement the the wrath? I suspect it was not in the movies. Edited July 18, 2015 by adormitul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChazDoit Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) That's nothing special really, plenty of others have done that. Man, that monitor was expensive. Out of curiousity, if Wrath and Nox can't defeat Vader and Dooku, who do you think they CAN defeat from the movies? Edited July 18, 2015 by ChazDoit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs_zoltan Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Most of that but was there anyone who lifted someone pushed it on a wall and crushed something killing him all with TK? Again is it refined precision and with precision? And can you tell of a example in where Vader showed better precision and refinement the the wrath? I suspect it was not in the movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Most of that but was there anyone who lifted someone pushed it on a wall and crushed something killing him all with TK? Again is it refined precision and with precision? And can you tell of a example in where Vader showed better precision and refinement the the wrath? I suspect it was not in the movies. That random Sith Apprentice in the Essless FP did it. As for examples, well you had Vader choking Xizor via hologram in SoTE novel, you have him crushing a Jedi's heart. You have him throwing objects at Luke during his battle on Bespin, without even looking. You have him choking Ozzel via force choke. Among other examples he has shown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChazDoit Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) Didn't Baras do that too? That random Sith Apprentice in the Essless FP did it. As for examples, well you had Vader choking Xizor via hologram in SoTE novel, you have him crushing a Jedi's heart. You have him throwing objects at Luke during his battle on Bespin, without even looking. You have him choking Ozzel via force choke. Among other examples he has shown. This is so much non-sense when all of you know well all the fightscenes in the game happen through gameplay. Edited July 18, 2015 by ChazDoit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adormitul Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 He force choked someone trough a monitor I saw Barras do that trough a holo-projector while I did not see the wrath do such a thing its seems its not that uncommon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Man, that monitor was expensive. Out of curiousity, if Wrath and Nox can't defeat Vader and Dooku, who do you think they CAN defeat from the movies? Uh....tbh I'm not sure because I'm kinda of weary on the TOR protags because they have limited showings only in cutscenes, that and there's no actual depicting of them so I find them hard to gauge really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChazDoit Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Uh....tbh I'm not sure because I'm kinda of weary on the TOR protags because they have limited showings only in cutscenes, that and there's no actual depicting of them so I find them hard to gauge really. So does that mean nobody from the movies or it means that we really can't tell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Didn't Baras do that too? This is so much non-sense when all of you know well all the fightscenes in the game happen through gameplay. Yeah but that random Sith Apprentice did that choke thing in a cutscene when he appeared, and yeah this fight is kinda ridiculous given the limited showings which is why I'm rather weary with the TOR protags and involving them in fights because...I just have a hard time gauging where they actually could be without a definite depiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) So does that mean nobody from the movies or it means that we really can't tell? Can't really tell. I mean I have no doubt they could be powerful. But that's hard to see, when the fighting and stuff is gameplay and the limited showings in cutscenes. Edited July 18, 2015 by Wolfninjajedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChazDoit Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) Can't really tell. I mean I have no doubt they could be powerful. But that's hard to see, when the fighting and stuff is gameplay and the limited showings in cutscenes. Yeah, I see what you're saying. Maybe this is a pointless exercise. I'm not even sure I agree with the way to interpret canon within game stories in the first place. Edited July 18, 2015 by ChazDoit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adormitul Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) That random Sith Apprentice in the Essless FP did it. As for examples, well you had Vader choking Xizor via hologram in SoTE novel, you have him crushing a Jedi's heart. You have him throwing objects at Luke during his battle on Bespin, without even looking. You have him choking Ozzel via force choke. Among other examples he has shown. Chocking someone be it trough a hologram is not uncommon. But crushing a Jedi heart is interesting that is something. Trowing objects not really but I never saw wrath do that except with the pistol and the monitor. Maybe others saw him doing other things. Does trowing other people count? Edited July 18, 2015 by adormitul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) Chocking someone be it trough a hologram is not uncommon. But crushing a Jedi heart is interesting that is something. Trowing objects not really but I never saw wrath do that except with the pistol and the monitor. Maybe others saw him doing other things. Does trowing other people count? Throwing people is pretty standard, as they are just getting thrown around, plenty of Force Users have shown that. Edited July 18, 2015 by Wolfninjajedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Yeah, I see what you're saying. Maybe this is a pointless exercise. I'm not even sure I agree with the way to interpret canon within game stories in the first place. Tbh actually, Vader and Dooku could probably do this without even using their sabers and just go straight H2H combat as both have shown some pretty good ability in that area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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