Zerex_Kildron Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 I saw these pictures this morning and was stunned. Even more excited now! Looks absolutely beautiful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drudenfusz Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 They have recently confirmed that... Each faction will have a separate one, in a separate location if I read it right. I am not sure that I like it, I hope that I still can use the companions of the other faction in my stornghold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dras_Keto Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Very true. How ever they want to implement this, some tattooine sunset would be awesome. Nighttime on coruscant would be awesome too Nothing is going to change, no day or night cycle, that would be too complicated and totally out of character for bioware (they never go back and improve/update old stuff unless they are repackaging it for sale in the cartel market or trying to pass it off as "new" content in the form of a flashpoint or raid). Im guessing they just couldnt pass up that scene at the beginning of A New Hope, Luke standing on that slight rise, with the twin suns. Cant really blame them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddballEasyEight Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) I am not sure that I like it, I hope that I still can use the companions of the other faction in my stornghold. You are still under the assumption that this is cross-character strongholds were talking about? I am dead certain that they only "unlock" for your legacy and still remain individual for each character. Your jedi's stronghold on Tattooine will look different from your smugglers. Edited June 16, 2014 by OddballEasyEight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Wicked Posted June 16, 2014 Author Share Posted June 16, 2014 You are still under the assumption that this is cross-character strongholds were talking about? I am dead certain that they only "unlock" for your legacy and still remain individual for each character. Your jedi's stronghold on Tattooine will look different from your smugglers. If the Homestead on Tattoine - for example - turns out to be something like this... http://s28.postimg.org/vsjt2cwb1/test.jpg With an Open-World area outside of it, while the Homestead itself is a closed instance, it would seem that you say is the correct assumption. As far as I'm aware, there are no Legacy instances... Not yet anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddballEasyEight Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 If the Homestead on Tattoine - for example - turns out to be something like this... http://s28.postimg.org/vsjt2cwb1/test.jpg With an Open-World area outside of it, while the Homestead itself is a closed instance, it would seem that you say is the correct assumption. As far as I'm aware, there are no Legacy instances... Not yet anyway. Actually, I think the entire area is instanced. It doesn't look like you can walk there from the pictures, so you'll have to take a taxi or quicktravel there which means it could be an instanced area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Wicked Posted June 16, 2014 Author Share Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) Actually, I think the entire area is instanced. That makes no sense. For people to be able to invite friends, fellow guild members and the like, there must be an Open-World area separated from your instance similar to what we already have now, on Spaceports, Fleets, etc etc. It doesn't look like you can walk there from the pictures, so you'll have to take a taxi or quicktravel there which means it could be an instanced area. I suggested that in the map I presented earlier. People will most likely be able to travel there using a shuttle similar to the one for the Black Hole or Section X. That or the Quick Travel terminals on the fleet will include Stronghold access. In other words, Taxi rides or quicktravel are an improbability, since these areas will be separated from the actual planet, just like Section X or the Black Hole. Unless of course... Bioware is bound to introduce a 24-hour cycle with GS, which I find unlikely. Edited June 16, 2014 by Darth_Wicked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghoul_drool Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Anyone care to speculate what they make of the Stronghold 'label' that will be handed out to subs for free? It feels like a title. But a title makes little sense, because how would a title for your stronhold work? Especially if strongholds are instanced? The other option is, of course, that they're NOT instanced. Which would mean, like Section X, a seperate planet area to land (new animations) and walk around and PHYSICALLY see other people's strongholds. Any other views on how this would work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Wicked Posted June 16, 2014 Author Share Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) Anyone care to speculate what they make of the Stronghold 'label' that will be handed out to subs for free? It feels like a title. But a title makes little sense, because how would a title for your stronhold work? Especially if strongholds are instanced? The other option is, of course, that they're NOT instanced. Which would mean, like Section X, a seperate planet area to land (new animations) and walk around and PHYSICALLY see other people's strongholds. Any other views on how this would work? Seek and you shall find. (...) The Nar Shaddaa Stronghold along with the “Galactic Stronghold” Stronghold Label will be unlocked in your Stronghold Management window and "The Illustrious” Character Title will be delivered via in-game mail at the start of Subscriber Early Access on August 19, 2014, or within two hours of becoming a Subscriber. (...) http://www.swtor.com/galactic-strongholds Edited June 16, 2014 by Darth_Wicked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghoul_drool Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 That tells us two things: One, we have a management window for strongholds where, presumably, all the decorations and QoL items and other placeables will go to. That's going to be Legacy wide, as per Eric. And two, the label won't be sent to our mailbox at the exact date but will be unlocked for us in the management window on that specific date. Still doesn't tell us how it's going to be used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeterno Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 This homestead looks a lot like wow garrisons. hopefully it has a similar minigame thing, upgrade and customize your homestead for different advantages, assign companions to tasks etc. etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuriDogshin Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Actually, I think the entire area is instanced. -- OddballEasyEight That makes no sense. For people to be able to invite friends, fellow guild members and the like, there must be an Open-World area separated from your instance similar to what we already have now, on Spaceports, Fleets, etc etc. I disagree. Starships, class mission areas, and operation areas are instanced and belong to one player, and groups members can join that player in them. I see no reason to believe strongholds will not reuse the same instance mechanisms, although the interface may look different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddballEasyEight Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 That makes no sense. For people to be able to invite friends, fellow guild members and the like, there must be an Open-World area separated from your instance similar to what we already have now, on Spaceports, Fleets, etc etc. I suggested that in the map I presented earlier. People will most likely be able to travel there using a shuttle similar to the one for the Black Hole or Section X. That or the Quick Travel terminals on the fleet will include Stronghold access. In other words, Taxi rides or quicktravel are an improbability, since these areas will be separated from the actual planet, just like Section X or the Black Hole. Unless of course... Bioware is bound to introduce a 24-hour cycle with GS, which I find unlikely. But there are spaceports where you click an elevator and get transported to your instance with no common area before or after. And when I say taxi travel, I mean like the black hole or section x. Not an actual slow taxi ride out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Wicked Posted June 16, 2014 Author Share Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) But there are spaceports where you click an elevator and get transported to your instance with no common area before or after. I could be wrong but I can't remember one. In the examples that spring to mind, the elevator is actually INSIDE the player's instance, which is what happens in every single Spaceport or Orbital Station throughout the galaxy. * Example below * http://s8.postimg.org/qernc9tol/Untitled.jpg The only exception I can think of right now would be Makeb but then again, the issue that I mentioned earlier would remain... For people to be able to invite friends, fellow guild members and the like, there must be an Open-World area separated from your instance similar to what we already have now, on Spaceports, Fleets, etc etc. If everything was like it it is on Makeb, how is the game supposed to differentiate from when you want to go to your ship and not your friend's ship? There is a reason - for example - why I enter first in whatever Spaceport and it becomes my instance and fellow guildie or friend follows: So they can access MY instance. EDIT: Nar Shaddaa is also an exception I believe but even there, you pickup the elevator and only afterwards you enter in your instance. You do not enter automatically in your instance once you get into the elevator. And when I say taxi travel, I mean like the black hole or section x. Not an actual slow taxi ride out there. That's not a taxi ride then, is it? Edited June 16, 2014 by Darth_Wicked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KurganNazzir Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Facebook album, 9 images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Wicked Posted June 16, 2014 Author Share Posted June 16, 2014 Facebook album, 9 images. YAYYYYYYY... Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddballEasyEight Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Facebook album, 9 images. Damn, beat me to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLynkes Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) You reckon that's a green instance entrance on that little "sand igloo" thing there? Or just green-coloured lighting within? Edited June 16, 2014 by PLynkes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sangrar Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Facebook album, 9 images. YES! I was first to comment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Wicked Posted June 16, 2014 Author Share Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) You reckon that's a green instance entrance on that little "sand igloo" thing there? Or just green-coloured lighting within? Crappy lighting I say. Edited June 16, 2014 by Darth_Wicked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno_Tarshil Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Crappy lighting I say. Unless that's just entrance room and there's a secret staircase that leads to an underground mansion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Wicked Posted June 16, 2014 Author Share Posted June 16, 2014 Unless that's just entrance room and there's a secret staircase that leads to an underground mansion! It's where the Emperor has hidden his true body. I must confer with the Hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno_Tarshil Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 It's where the Emperor has hidden his true body. I must confer with the Hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLynkes Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Looks like the sandcrawler in the distance moves about, unless they just haven't made up their minds where to put it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Wicked Posted June 16, 2014 Author Share Posted June 16, 2014 Looks like the sandcrawler in the distance moves about, unless they just haven't made up their minds where to put it yet. Same as with the Jawa Balloon one may assume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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