LadyKulvax Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 If my calculations are correct, most of the factions if not all are not stealth based as a matter of fact, if so, awesome, just outright war, less "my faction is stealthier than your stealth faction", "my intelligence counter intels your intelligence's counter intelligence brah." "I put a stealth generator in my stealth generator so my stealth generator can stealth, so I can stealth while I stealth." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 (edited) If my calculations are correct, most of the factions if not all are not stealth based as a matter of fact, if so, awesome, just outright war, less "my faction is stealthier than your stealth faction", "my intelligence counter intels your intelligence's counter intelligence brah." "I put a stealth generator in my stealth generator so my stealth generator can stealth, so I can stealth while I stealth." Thank everything for that to a degree, some of those conversations could really turn circular as hell lol. Funny thing is, knowing how much emphasis is placed on it, and how much credit it gets (some of it deserved not all of it though) if there was a stealth faction, it would win. Edited June 20, 2014 by tunewalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKulvax Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Thank everything for that to a degree, some of those conversations could really turn circular as hell lol. Funny thing is, knowing how much emphasis is placed on it, and how much credit it gets (some of it deserved not all of it though) if there was a stealth faction, it would win. Indeed, but am I the only one who thinks it's just damn boring to just sneak your way to victory, I want a frakkin' battle, not a game of hide and seek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Indeed, but am I the only one who thinks it's just damn boring to just sneak your way to victory, I want a frakkin' battle, not a game of hide and seek. Pretty much with you there. I honestly think ours was one of the best battles of the last Kaggath, whether it went right or wrong, it was balanced. IE not Pure sneaking, not Pure Fight, Not Pure anything. It took all fascets of war, both Factions geared for Espionage, pure combat, in a fortified location. Thats what I like to see the most, pure warfare. A faction capable of doing everything that some one does in a war. Spies and sabotage are included, stealth is inclded, but its not what decides anything its just 1 more means the Faction uses as a means towards victory. A War that doesnt have everything, just feels empty to me, it should have its grand battles, it should have its special ops missions in the MIDDLE of those grand battles that make a small difference in the right spot, it should have BOTH teams trying these missions. The Wars should be decided by the equipment and the strategies of its individuals. The determination even of the every man soldier, not by an invisible enemy that just LOL's its way to victory, but by a large team, one that sacrifices soldiers in a grand war, while still having elite soldiers for those "espionage" missions, but with out that fighting force the espionage would be meaningless, with out that fighting force, the skills of the select few would be meaningless. You dont need stealth feild generators you never have, you just need a good group of men to hold off the enemy and create a distraction. "A fight is never a goal in itself, sometimes it is simply a distraction from the true goal, and is best countered with a larger distraction" The Large army is the distraction, the "elite group" that disables the enemies main heavy walker is the "Larger distraction" the end game is the goal, but thats still not possible with out the army, even "stealth" units I would never call a real threat with out the larger distraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canino Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 (edited) I'm not sure if I said this before, but I'm interested to see how Tholme is used. He's been moving up on my ranks, so it will be interesting to see how he plays out. Obviously stealth, but he does other strengths. Edited June 20, 2014 by Canino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted June 20, 2014 Author Share Posted June 20, 2014 If my calculations are correct, most of the factions if not all are not stealth based as a matter of fact, if so, awesome, just outright war, less "my faction is stealthier than your stealth faction", "my intelligence counter intels your intelligence's counter intelligence brah." "I put a stealth generator in my stealth generator so my stealth generator can stealth, so I can stealth while I stealth."I can tell you that is indeed the case, their is a decided absent of stealth-wielding forces. There are a few guerrilla style units and an inflitration arm here and there, but I expect this Kaggath to live up to its namesake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Yet the Dark Side always loses in the long run. Dangnabit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 If my calculations are correct, most of the factions if not all are not stealth based as a matter of fact, if so, awesome, just outright war, less "my faction is stealthier than your stealth faction", "my intelligence counter intels your intelligence's counter intelligence brah." "I put a stealth generator in my stealth generator so my stealth generator can stealth, so I can stealth while I stealth." Thankfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted June 20, 2014 Author Share Posted June 20, 2014 I just checked the rule book for more exact wordings, but I can not seem to find these two new rules. By chance can you point them out so I can think the choice over more thoroughly? I've added them to the rulebook now but they are no more specific that what I have already said, if you have any such questions I'd suggest you PM me instead. I think in your case however it would be a wise choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenceo Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 If my calculations are correct, most of the factions if not all are not stealth based as a matter of fact, if so, awesome, just outright war, less "my faction is stealthier than your stealth faction", "my intelligence counter intels your intelligence's counter intelligence brah." "I put a stealth generator in my stealth generator so my stealth generator can stealth, so I can stealth while I stealth." Likely still to be intelligence and counter intelligence due to multiple intelligence agencies. Though, I agree about the ridiculousness of the stealth factions last time... As for the dark side eventually always losing...I disagree, there are plenty of times that they win wars or battles, and that is all that is needed for this conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 I'm not sure if I said this before, but I'm interested to see how Tholme is used. He's been moving up on my ranks, so it will be interesting to see how he plays out. Obviously stealth, but he does other strengths. Yeah, people better watch out for Tholme. He will mess you up if you aren't prepared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKulvax Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Well I have fully prepared for a shadow war regardless, so either way, don't expect the cheap victory. P.S Cannot believe the character I just got, my only worry has vanished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Pfft, Y'all just Jelly that the Imperium was so awesome No but seriously, Stealth won't work as well in Battlegrounds. Also.... Rayla's really worrying me >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKulvax Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 (edited) Pfft, Y'all just Jelly that the Imperium was so awesome No but seriously, Stealth won't work as well in Battlegrounds. Also.... Rayla's really worrying me >.> Don't misunderstand, stealth is probably one of the best options to go with, but I personally just find it boring to over-specialize in it. Oh and you are the one who should be least worried my dear friend. Edited June 21, 2014 by LadyKulvax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKulvax Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Yeah, people better watch out for Tholme. He will mess you up if you aren't prepared. Tholme is a total troll character I will say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Don't misunderstand, stealth is probably one of the best options to go with, but I personally just find it boring to over-specialize in it. Oh and you are the one who should be least worried my dear friend. Oh I know... I know you Also, y'all are all crazy Psychopaths "Why is it more honorable to kill 10,000 men on a battlefield than 12 at dinner"... Also... Beni, father in law passed away so I've been distracted recently, changes incoming tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKulvax Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Oh I know... I know you Also, y'all are all crazy Psychopaths "Why is it more honorable to kill 10,000 men on a battlefield than 12 at dinner"... Also... Beni, father in law passed away so I've been distracted recently, changes incoming tomorrow. Indeed, but you can take comfort in the knowledge that even though we know each other's leadership, I figure we can better prepare ourselves to help each other out, light side gals ftw. Sorry to hear that, know the feeling. *virtual hug* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKulvax Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Oh and seriously how was that character NOT already taken? like wut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Also... Beni, father in law passed away so I've been distracted recently, changes incoming tomorrow. Sorry to hear that, Sel. :( More frowns :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Tholme is a total troll character I will say that. He's probably going to be on one of the Light Side factions that I'm going to obliterate. That makes me kinda sad, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKulvax Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 He's probably going to be on one of the Light Side factions that I'm going to obliterate. That makes me kinda sad, actually. Both me and Sel have rock solid factions, don't be overconfident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenceo Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 (edited) Oh I know... I know you Also, y'all are all crazy Psychopaths "Why is it more honorable to kill 10,000 men on a battlefield than 12 at dinner"... Also... Beni, father in law passed away so I've been distracted recently, changes incoming tomorrow. There is a reason that they invented droids...Slips my mind why, but there must be a reason behind it! If one specializes in destroying another who is strong in the force....what happens if an enemy has no force to exploit? Neutral, no advantage? Numbers alone have been shown to be capable of killing great jedi/sith before, nor will it be the last time, hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side. LK, I am dying to see what it is that you are going on about, makes me think of nightmarish enemies, yet when I look at the taken list I scratch my head...Perhaps I am merely ignorant of a few things, if so it will soon be rectified. TO THE RESEARCH CAVE! :ph_danger:Aurbere, why so much hate for the lightsiders? Surely they are equally to blame as the darksiders? Whichever the case they will stand trial and be judged. As Selenial knows, I have little to fear from common force wielders, and the major ones I can assure you, I have contingency plans that will probably backfire that I am prepared to use that still have a chance to kill them. That is, unless jedi suddenly became immune to explosions, blaster bolts, betrayal, or getting crushed physically? As for your father...:(I am sorry for your loss. Edited June 21, 2014 by Silenceo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKulvax Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 There is a reason that they invented droids...Slips my mind why, but there must be a reason behind it! If one specializes in destroying another who is strong in the force....what happens if an enemy has no force to exploit? Neutral, no advantage? Numbers alone have been shown to be capable of killing great jedi/sith before, nor will it be the last time, hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side. LK, I am dying to see what it is that you are going on about, makes me think of nightmarish enemies, yet when I look at the taken list I scratch my head...Perhaps I am merely ignorant of a few things, if so it will soon be rectified. TO THE RESEARCH CAVE! This would be true, if we had indeed specialized in defeating Force Users, I however have prepared to neutralize any foe and restore order and peace in the Galactic Republic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Both me and Sel have rock solid factions, don't be overconfident. I should say the same thing to you. You are not the only one with epic factions. And I find it amusing that you and Sel have apparently formed some sort of alliance. I will enjoy watching it fall apart when you are pitted against each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Ya part of me is waiting for beni to be like ok.... first braket match up Sel vs Lady If my faction gets used (and its looking like it might) there will be another light side, though it will be pretty standard, nothing to special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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