Kremsau Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 (edited) Hello there! While I appreciate being positive on topics, I feel like this is worth discussing. With the Legacy system for canon, most of these books don't matter anymore. Which would you like to make sure don't reappear, in order to keep their awful canon from surfacing again? Edited May 28, 2014 by Kremsau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilikaa Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 The Crystal Star. Easily the worst Star Wars novel in existence. There are some other bad novels out there, but Crystal Star is the one I wish was never written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
October Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 the old republic: revan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDymond Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 (edited) Jedi Prince (and its sequels) is in its own separate category of bad, to the point I'm not even comfortable acknowledging it as a legitimate book. So taking that out of the running, I'd say it's a toss-up between Crystal Star and Planet of Twilight. Edited May 29, 2014 by DarthDymond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theBrayn Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 (edited) Children of the Jedi or Darksaber, take your pick because they are both pretty awful. However, I could be persuaded to agree on The Crystal Star. Edited May 29, 2014 by theBrayn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlrikFassbauer Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 Boba Fett Trilogy by K.W.Jeter. Throw away that stuff ! It is only surpassed by the incredibly bad novels by Chris Claremont for George Lucas' "Willow" sequels / series (novels only). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDymond Posted May 29, 2014 Share Posted May 29, 2014 It is only surpassed by the incredibly bad novels by Chris Claremont for George Lucas' "Willow" sequels / series (novels only). Oh come on, killing off two of the most popular characters, off-screen in the prologue was a brilliant move! And having the main character lose all trace of his established characterization and personality, and even start going under another name? Pure genius! Throwing in a nonsensical time-travel element near the end? Amazing! (I'm actually hoping this part was some sort of fever-dream I had and I'm totally misremembering it.) The only way those books made any sort of sense were as a completely separate generic Sword and Sorcery Fantasy series that retroactively got shoehorned in to the Willow Universe for a publicity bump. The fact that it seems George Lucas was the one who both came up with the story and decided to then do the shoehorning... yeesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vyerix Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Death Star I could not even finish. If I made it half way I'd be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psandak Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Everything from the New Jedi Order (AKA Vong series) and on. While I agree that some of the New Republic Era stuff is bad (looking at you Crystal Star and Courtship), NONE of it is as depressing as the Vong series, and I HATE continually depressing stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZahirS Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 the old republic: revan No Darth Krayt any comic is the worst Star Wars ever produced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sindorin Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 The Crystal Star. Easily the worst Star Wars novel in existence. There are some other bad novels out there, but Crystal Star is the one I wish was never written. Believe it or not, I liked this one. Personally, the Killik series was the worst three books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDymond Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Believe it or not, I liked this one. Personally, the Killik series was the worst three books. Dark Nest would have been fine if it was a single book, maybe a duology, but dragging it out to a full trilogy was way, way, way too long for too little story content. No Darth Krayt any comic is the worst Star Wars ever produced. And this is just sacrilege , Legacy was hands down some of the best EU content of the last decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kremsau Posted May 30, 2014 Author Share Posted May 30, 2014 I've yet to delve past the Battle of Yavin, so I haven't had the chance to read any of the recommended's yet (and hopefully never will ) although some of the descriptions in Wiki have been laughable. My choice is Dawn of the Jedi: Into the Void. As it stood so far apart from the rest of the novels, I'd hoped this provided a strong foundation for the series...instead I find a world that isn't so different from the novels that exist 20,000 years in the future. No hyperspace + no lightsaber doesn't translate to 20k years of development for me. Arguably worse than the 3,000 year gap between TOR and Clone Wars. Plus Lanoree bugged the hell out of me. She is quoted as being a "great Je'daii" in the novel but more often than not if she were a Sith I wouldn't be able to tell the difference. I'm glad they de-canonized the literature when it comes to things like this and pray Disney can breath some fresh air into the far distant past of the Jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDymond Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 (edited) Plus Lanoree bugged the hell out of me. She is quoted as being a "great Je'daii" in the novel but more often than not if she were a Sith I wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Can't speak to the quality of the novel, but from reading the Dawn of the Jedi comics I can say that this is kind of the point, since the "Je'daii" were the precursors to both the Jedi and the Sith, from a time when the Order was trying to use both the Light and the Dark side. It makes sense that a "great Je'daii" would be every bit as close to a "great Sith" as it would be to a "great Jedi" Edited May 30, 2014 by DarthDymond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevec_Silver Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 I know it's not a novel, but does The Force Unleashed II count? It was so dreadful on so many levels. I just want to erase the entire thing, even if it means erasing the first one (which I personally loved). I'd also say that I'm glad they're not adhering to the post-movie era stuff. Honestly, there wasn't room to make a good Star Wars movie that fit into all of the existing stories. Some of it was good, but I'd rather have films than more books and comic books than I can keep track of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 I know it's not a novel, but does The Force Unleashed II count? It was so dreadful on so many levels. I just want to erase the entire thing, even if it means erasing the first one (which I personally loved). I'd also say that I'm glad they're not adhering to the post-movie era stuff. Honestly, there wasn't room to make a good Star Wars movie that fit into all of the existing stories. Some of it was good, but I'd rather have films than more books and comic books than I can keep track of. The Force Unleashed II has a novelization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kremsau Posted May 30, 2014 Author Share Posted May 30, 2014 It makes sense that a "great Je'daii" would be every bit as close to a "great Sith" as it would be to a "great Jedi" I semi-knew that going into the book, and your flatly stating it does make it much more reasonable. I found the short story following the novel, with the character named Hawk, to exemplify this characteristic of the Je'daii. In that instance his character openly, to the reader, battled his connection to Bogan as he'd dipped into the dark side prior to the story. However, their code is self-entitled, another word came to mind but it's not appropriate for the forums. So I suppose the characters make sense....it all just rubbed me the wrong way. I feel as if Lanoree going into the Death Star to shut down the tractor beam would've resulted in mass casualties...where-as Obi Wan used cunning to spare lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDymond Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 I semi-knew that going into the book, and your flatly stating it does make it much more reasonable. I found the short story following the novel, with the character named Hawk, to exemplify this characteristic of the Je'daii. In that instance his character openly, to the reader, battled his connection to Bogan as he'd dipped into the dark side prior to the story. However, their code is self-entitled, another word came to mind but it's not appropriate for the forums. So I suppose the characters make sense....it all just rubbed me the wrong way. I feel as if Lanoree going into the Death Star to shut down the tractor beam would've resulted in mass casualties...where-as Obi Wan used cunning to spare lives. I can completely understand someone disliking stories that have anti-heroes as protagonists, my only point was that sounds like what this was: a book with a morally grey anti-hero for a "hero", and that it is consistent for a Jed'aii, who try to use both sides of the Force, to be exactly that sort of character (which is the metric I would use for it being "reasonable"). Books like Deceived and the Darth Bane trilogy have flat-out murderers and psychopaths as their "heroes", that's just the type of story they're choosing to tell. But those types of stories are definitely not everyone's cup of tea, the same way someone who doesn't like horror stories may not like Death Troopers or someone who doesn't care for space action may not like the X-Wing series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarSquirrel Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 The Force Unleashed II has a novelization. Actually as a novel it wasn't half bad, I enjoyed it and there are definitely worse books in the franchise. As far as lore is concerned Splinter of the Minds Eye is easily the worse imo (if you take off the sentimentality glasses) From a storytelling perspective... the Corellian Crisis Trilogy is up there for me, but it is hard to say for sure. I'd agree that the Revan book wasn't very good and would definitely make any list of worst SW books. Haven't read a lot of pre-RotJ books so there might be a few more recent books that could be worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kremsau Posted May 30, 2014 Author Share Posted May 30, 2014 (edited) I'm very surprised to see Revan on this list. It was the first SW novel I read, and going into it, I took the mental dive of knowing this was a novel based off a video game so I wasn't prepared for an East of Eden or anything. However, since reading it, I've read all the books up to the Bane trilogy. Revan was certainly better than Knight Errant / Red Harvest. Of course all of this is in my opinion, I don't mean to offend anything stated, I'm curious as to your thoughts. Was it that it could've been better? Did you not like the direction it took? What aspects would you of changed, had you had the reins to steer the lore? Edited May 30, 2014 by Kremsau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordkoon Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 There was a novel I had a long time ago. I reached a moment where Luke uses the force to turn into a bird and flies away. That is my only 'nope, nope' in starwars novels thus far. If anyone remembers the name of it , do share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trixdope Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Dark empire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kremsau Posted May 31, 2014 Author Share Posted May 31, 2014 Ahhhhh the infamous Jedi were-birds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullvi Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 coruscant nights series or legacy of the force or fate of the jedi series, any book from those series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Master_Jast Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 The Glove of Darth Vader. Luke Skywalker has to help save the Whaladons. Worst Star Wars book ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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