frostbytex Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 (edited) Leveling Marauder with 30% PVP time, Rage or Annihilation? I have been reading through the threads, and there are alot of people talking about the pros of both of these specs for PVP, thouogh only a little bit of discussion regarding PVE in conern with going Rage Spec. I am also looking for a spec that I don't have to wait till 30 or 40 to start really getting good use out of it. I am not particularly looking to solo Heroic 2s ( I do that on my Sorc enough and to be honest is a waste of time overall ). I do want to be able to take on 2 Silvers, or a Elite and a Silver, or some mob setup like that. How would Annihilation or Rage deal with the Mob setup I just mentioned, and conversely how would Annihilation or Rage work in PVP while leveling ( 11-39, as I concider 40+ to have most of the tools that one would really need, at least that is how it is on my Sorcerer ) I am not considering Carnage as I have heard too many issues regarding the spec, in concern with PVP at least. My leaning is to go Rage, but as I have seen almost no comments on Rage in PVE, it leaves me wanting to know more before I commit. For PVE I plan on using either Quinn or Jaesa as my primary companion, though I am open to suggestions. I am also a Biochem with the supporting mission and gather, so I will have perma versions of my heals/stims/adrenals which should help out reasonably well. Edited December 23, 2011 by frostbytex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nmaharg Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 (edited) Annihilation is our best spec at least until level 39. I'll do more testing post 40. I burn through Silvers with a single roation. Charge >> Deadly Saber >> Rupture >> Ravage >> Saveage Kick = Dead silver. Taking out a gold is maybe three or four more GCD. I've never left a fight with less than 50% health in my leveling from 25-39. And I use a DPS companion. Edited December 23, 2011 by Nmaharg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbytex Posted December 23, 2011 Author Share Posted December 23, 2011 But how is Annihilation in PVP, the few people I have talked to online seem to either avoid pvp completely, or say they weren't liking it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nmaharg Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 But how is Annihilation in PVP, the few people I have talked to online seem to either avoid pvp completely, or say they weren't liking it. Personally I love it. You completely tear through people. Learn the rotation, and you'll be a real handful, cause you'll completely slaughter anyone in front of you. A quick vid I made: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9A4UnEe65s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbytex Posted December 23, 2011 Author Share Posted December 23, 2011 Well thank you for the Annihilation point of view. Anyone leveled as Rage, and also have done quite a bit of PVP as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shimlock Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Well I havent done rage long at all and Im only level 30 but it is pretty amazing with the right combination your smash can do 2k+ aoe. It puts out the highest dmg to I think atleast in burst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majinr Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 (edited) annihaltion = survivability (is the best out the three in regards to this) - 1 on 1 = no1 stands a chance , 2 on 1 = highly likely to come out on top or at least take one down BUTlacks burst, as damage has to be built up, but once all our bleeds are up target is pretty much dead rage = very good burst, very mobile spec - BUT not very good compared to Anni in regards to survivability - it's less forgiving and you have to be very clever on the way u approach opponents Again playstyle here, with Anni you can expect to beat anyone if it's a 1 on 1 - (For ex taking a node in alderaan protected by 1 (or 2 people depending on situation) ) or Rage which is the best if your running with a friend or you have back up and just want to take targets down quickly I prefer Anni - but up 2 u here Edited December 24, 2011 by Majinr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhudduh Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 (edited) Personally I love it. You completely tear through people. Learn the rotation, and you'll be a real handful, cause you'll completely slaughter anyone in front of you. A quick vid I made: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9A4UnEe65s Why don't you have Deadly saber or Vicious throw? O.o Edited December 24, 2011 by Bhudduh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodokai Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Level up as Annhilation up until 40 then switch to rage, Annie is alright in pvp actually but rage is amazing soon as you get Force Crush. Yes ive tried all 3 out in pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbytex Posted December 24, 2011 Author Share Posted December 24, 2011 (edited) Are there certain atks ( skills ) that I shouldn't be using anymore, being level 11, I have 10 keybinds just for combat. This compared to having that many at level 40 for Sorcerer, I am wondering if there are some that I am able to dump now. I was assuming that there would be maybe 9 to 11 all the time skills, and the rest are either retired ( there are plenty retired on my Sorcerer ) or that wouldn't be used often at all. At level 11 to 19 what would my rotation look like? Edited December 24, 2011 by frostbytex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majinr Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 (edited) well rotation at that low level is just priority - but always keep Crippling slash up dats all - Run in battering Assault/Force Leap - Crippling Slash - Rupture - then jus do whateva till either crippling slash has run out on target or rupture is off cd If your going Anni then you obtain deadly saber in 20's, daz when you activate deadly saber as soon as you enter combat and apply rupture, but with the other specs just do what I had described before(Rupture is really powerful even if your not Anni specced due to the damage being elemental - ignores all armor) This is pvp btw in pve ignore crippling slash Edited December 24, 2011 by Majinr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nmaharg Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 (edited) Why don't you have Deadly saber or Vicious throw? O.o Saber is '6' and Vicious throw is a level 46 skill. Edited December 24, 2011 by Nmaharg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhudduh Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Level up as Annhilation up until 40 then switch to rage, Annie is alright in pvp actually but rage is amazing soon as you get Force Crush. Yes ive tried all 3 out in pvp. Are you able to make a vid of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darksurfer Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 That was a great video! I just switched from Carnage to Anni at level 18 and I noticed a HUGE difference. I still haven't tried PvP but from the looks of it, it seems very promising! Keep up the discussion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyphix Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Anyone that could post a anni build? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nmaharg Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Anyone that could post a anni build? http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#100bIbRr****zZhGM.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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