Slinnak Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 I love the season 1 rewards however I'm a little disappointed by the titles. Those who are hardcore ranked players or just sheer lucky (or likely a mix of both) will earn the boastful Unique Inaugural Tier 1 title which I'm sure most who earn it will be proudly displaying. As for the large percentage of folks who don't get it, do you really think they will want to display their Tier 2,3,4,5 titles? Or even want them? I think the lesser the title, the more uncommon you'll see it worn because no one will want to wear it! Yeah you may see a lot of Tier 2 and maybe even Tier 3 titles being displayed, but common what pride is there in Tier 4/5? So for that reason, I'd really like to see Bioware adjust the title so it's just Unique Inaugural that way everyone who competed in season 1 can proudly show that they participated. Those who achieve high ratings still have much to boast about with the rancor, pet, armor sets and will still have their awesome stats engraved in the leaderboard archives. Another idea if some think that's not enough is to just make another seperate title for those who achieved a high rating. That will make it so those lucky folks still have a proud title to display and the rest who participated will still have a cool title that, although it may be lesser, will still be one worth wearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Beers Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 No. If you want a participant trophy little league is over there ---> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediMasterSLC Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 1/10, don't joke about this please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Beers Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Just noticed the OP's sig Champion of numerous PVP tournaments I feel this adds some irony to the thread that it was missing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinnak Posted March 10, 2014 Author Share Posted March 10, 2014 (edited) If you disagree that's fine but at least give a good and respectful reason why and if you want to troll go somewhere else. Edited March 10, 2014 by Slinnak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinnak Posted March 10, 2014 Author Share Posted March 10, 2014 Just noticed the OP's sig I feel this adds some irony to the thread that it was missing Thanks for noticing! I put that there for a reason, a well earned one. Also I couldn't help but notice your sig too! <Super Bads> - POT5 Yeah there's a reason I left POT5. Nothing but super bads like yourself that like to argue and be condescending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jadenn Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 I'm feel all warm and secure in the knowledge that this "idea" will not go into effect. I mean how many ideas has BW implemented because someone posted it? It took them how long to acknowledge bolster being broken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Beers Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Thanks for noticing! I put that there for a reason, a well earned one. Also I couldn't help but notice your sig too! <Super Bads> - POT5 Yeah there's a reason I left POT5. Nothing but super bads like yourself that like to argue and be condescending. If you want the same title as tier 1 players get to tier 1. Simple as that /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinnak Posted March 10, 2014 Author Share Posted March 10, 2014 (edited) I'm feel all warm and secure in the knowledge that this "idea" will not go into effect. I mean how many ideas has BW implemented because someone posted it? It took them how long to acknowledge bolster being broken? Very true, but still I think it's a good idea and worth a shot. If everyone was demoralized that their idea(s) will probably not be acknowledged or go into effect than this wouldn't be much of a suggestion box. Edited March 10, 2014 by Slinnak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatRacer Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 (edited) No one's forcing people to wear their Tier 4/5 titles like a cone-of-shame, so there's no reason to fluff it up to spare some fragile egos. And even if they changed the low-tier titles to something like, "Arena Bada.ss" we'd all still know what it really means anyways. Edited March 10, 2014 by HeatRacer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinnak Posted March 10, 2014 Author Share Posted March 10, 2014 If you want the same title as tier 1 players get to tier 1. Simple as that /thread I never said I personally wanted or needed anything. This thread has nothing to do with who I am or what I want this has to do with a change I'd like to see implemented because I actually care about the wellness of this game. You being selfish, arrogant pig from POT5 I can see how you'd misunderstand this. If you have nothing useful or positive to contribute to this thread begone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinnak Posted March 10, 2014 Author Share Posted March 10, 2014 (edited) No one's forcing people to wear their Tier 4/5 titles like a cone-of-shame, so there's no reason to fluff it up to spare some fragile egos. And even if they changed the low-tier titles to something like, "Arena Badarse" we'd all still know what it really means anyways. Very true, however as the thread title states I only think they should remove the "Tier 1,2,3,4,5" part, not come up with a whole new title. Edited March 10, 2014 by Slinnak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatRacer Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Very true. However as the thread title states I only think they should remove the "Tier 1,2,3,4,5" part, not come up with a whole new title. The titles don't say anything about the "Tier" in them. The last time I checked Dulfy, the titles were like "S-1 All Star" (with the letter/number referring to the season, not the tier). So I'm not sure what you're asking for. Are you wanting there to be only two titles, one for the top tier, and one for everyone else so the Tiers 4/5 don't feel bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Beers Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 I never said I personally wanted or needed anything. This thread has nothing to do with who I am or what I want this has to do with a change I'd like to see implemented because I actually care about the wellness of this game. You being selfish, arrogant pig from POT5 I can see how you'd misunderstand this. If you have nothing useful or positive to contribute to this thread begone. Reading your subsequent posts I can see you don't understand what the titles are. You are just assuming they "Tier 5" in them and that should be changed because I don't know people will unsub because an optional title says they didn't do so hot at arenas? You had a bad idea it was met with criticism. Welcome to the internet. Not every post has to be positive. My posts are on topic so I they can stay in the thread. This purpose of this forum isn't for you to post your half baked ideas and have people throw praise at you. They are for discussion. You had an idea, posted it and I posted my thoughts. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean I am not contributing to the thread. //thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinnak Posted March 10, 2014 Author Share Posted March 10, 2014 The titles don't say anything about the "Tier" in them. The last time I checked Dulfy, the titles were like "S-1 All Star" (with the letter/number referring to the season, not the tier). So I'm not sure what you're asking for. Are you wanting there to be only two titles, one for the top tier, and one for everyone else so the Tiers 4/5 don't feel bad? According to Biowares News Article the title is Unique Inaugural and than Tier 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 depending on the highest rating you've earned in season 1. I doublechecked Dulfy just now and saw what you were referring to. Not sure why that's there, or if Dulfy means those are the titles but Biowares News Article doesn't say anything about S-1 Rookie, S-1 Champion or S-1 All-Star and even if those were the titles being awarded that's still no different than being a Tier 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 and I'd still think it should be changed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Beers Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 According to Biowares News Article the title is Unique Inaugural and than Tier 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 depending on the highest rating you've earned in season 1. I doublechecked Dulfy just now and saw what you were referring to. Not sure why that's there, or if Dulfy means those are the titles but Biowares News Article doesn't say anything about S-1 Rookie, S-1 Champion or S-1 All-Star and even if those were the titles being awarded that's still no different than being a Tier 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 and I'd still think it should be changed You have failed to give sufficient reason why they should be changed. You just keep saying they should. So please elaborate. Why should they be changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatRacer Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 (edited) According to Biowares News Article the title is Unique Inaugural and than Tier 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 depending on the highest rating you've earned in season 1. I doublechecked Dulfy just now and saw what you were referring to. Not sure why that's there, or if Dulfy means those are the titles but Biowares News Article doesn't say anything about S-1 Rookie, S-1 Champion or S-1 All-Star and even if those were the titles being awarded that's still no different than being a Tier 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 and I'd still think it should be changed Haha ok I see what happened here... In that news article, "Unique" and "Inaugural" were adjectives describing what KIND of title it would be, not the actual title itself. It was a placeholder, just like how "A Mini Pet" is what KIND of reward you're getting, and not the name of the pet itself. So once again, you seem to be pushing for each tier not to get their own titles for no reason other than low-rated people might not feel "pride" in having been a participant, which is actually pretty irrelevant. That's as silly as suggesting that B and C students get the same grade as D and F students. This is RANKED warzones, here, which by the name alone means there is a heirarchy (aka tiers). Edited March 10, 2014 by HeatRacer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinnak Posted March 10, 2014 Author Share Posted March 10, 2014 Reading your subsequent posts I can see you don't understand what the titles are. You are just assuming they "Tier 5" in them and that should be changed because I don't know people will unsub because an optional title says they didn't do so hot at arenas? You had a bad idea it was met with criticism. Welcome to the internet. Not every post has to be positive. My posts are on topic so I they can stay in the thread. This purpose of this forum isn't for you to post your half baked ideas and have people throw praise at you. They are for discussion. You had an idea, posted it and I posted my thoughts. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean I am not contributing to the thread. //thread You're putting words in my mouth. Nowhere did I say I think people will unsub because of a title. Also, your definition of discussing is the same as arguing and insulting. Typical POT5 pig. Your three pevious posts have done nothing to promote discussion, only bs. As I said before if you have nothing useful or positive to contribute to this thread begone and "your thoughts" have been pointless and nothing but negativity. As for your "Not every post has to be positive." there's a big difference between respectfully disagreeing and being a pest like yourself. I'm open to criticism, not trolling, as I've stated before. If you don't agree wth me and have nothing of good nature to say than don't even bother posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Beers Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 You're putting words in my mouth. Nowhere did I say I think people will unsub because of a title. Also, your definition of discussing is the same as arguing and insulting. Typical POT5 pig. Your three pevious posts have done nothing to promote discussion, only bs. As I said before if you have nothing useful or positive to contribute to this thread begone and "your thoughts" have been pointless and nothing but negativity. As for your "Not every post has to be positive." there's a big difference between respectfully disagreeing and being a pest like yourself. I'm open to criticism, not trolling, as I've stated before. If you don't agree wth me and have nothing of good nature to say than don't even bother posting. You still haven't explained why you think it's good for "the well being of the game", I believe is what you said ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatRacer Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 (edited) Haha, how about this as the lower tier titles: "5th place WInner" or "1st Place (from the bottom) Winner" for Tier 5 "4th place Winner" or "2nd Place (from the bottom) Winner" for Tier 4 and so on...cuz everyone's a winner! Hurray! No one's ego gets hurt! Edited March 10, 2014 by HeatRacer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinnak Posted March 10, 2014 Author Share Posted March 10, 2014 Haha ok I see what happened here... In that news article, "Unique" and "Inaugural" were adjectives describing what KIND of title it would be, not the actual title itself. It was a placeholder, just like how "A Mini Pet" is what KIND of reward you're getting, and not the name of the pet itself. Ah ok that could be the case and I misinterpreted it. You're the first to point that out so I'm sure the wording has mislead many other folks as well. So once again, you seem to be pushing for each tier not to get their own titles for no reason other than low-rated people might not feel "pride" in having been a participant, which is actually pretty irrelevant. That's as silly as suggesting that B and C students get the same grade as D and F students. This is RANKED warzones, here, which by the name alone means there is a heirarchy (aka tiers). Good point actually and I appreciate the response. But still, this is a game and what's the point in wearing a title if it's not prideful? Yes there are some titles out there that are meant to be silly like "Lucky" or "Unlucky" but this is ranked PvP awards we're talking about. Say you're in some tournament or sporting event, the winner is crowned "Champion" and recieves a big trophy and prize money while the rest of the competitors simply recieve medals. Should the rest of the competitors also be crowned "Almost a Winner," "Average," "Loser," and "Major Loser" depending on how they finished? Of course give the highest ranked players their due rewards, but don't insult the others that participated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Beers Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Ah ok that could be the case and I misinterpreted it. You're the first to point that out so I'm sure the wording has mislead many other folks as well. Good point actually and I appreciate the response. But still, this is a game and what's the point in wearing a title if it's not prideful? Yes there are some titles out there that are meant to be silly like "Lucky" or "Unlucky" but this is ranked PvP awards we're talking about. Say you're in some tournament or sporting event, the winner is crowned "Champion" and recieves a big trophy and prize money while the rest of the competitors simply recieve medals. Should the rest of the competitors also be crowned "Almost a Winner," "Average," "Loser," and "Major Loser" depending on how they finished? Of course give the highest ranked players their due rewards, but don't insult the others that participated. I didn't see where BW said they were going to call everyone losers. It's ranked PvP, there is supposed to be ranks. If people don't like the title they get they don't have to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatRacer Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 (edited) Good point actually and I appreciate the response. But still, this is a game and what's the point in wearing a title if it's not prideful? Yes there are some titles out there that are meant to be silly like "Lucky" or "Unlucky" but this is ranked PvP awards we're talking about. Say you're in some tournament or sporting event, the winner is crowned "Champion" and recieves a big trophy and prize money while the rest of the competitors simply recieve medals. Should the rest of the competitors also be crowned "Almost a Winner," "Average," "Loser," and "Major Loser" depending on how they finished? Of course give the highest ranked players their due rewards, but don't insult the others that participated. This is where you're not making sense to anyone here. That's right, this is RANKED awards we're talking about, and that's why there are different titles to display the different RANKS. The lower tier titles do not call the receiver "Loser" or even their Tier level. It isn't "insulting" them since they are not forced to use it. And frankly, your suggestion is kind of insulting to those who achieved Tier 2 and 3 since you're either advocating to take away their titles, or else merge them with the Tier 4 and 5's. So what exactly are you arguing for? That lower tiers should receive no title at all? (which no one appreciates people advocating to take things away from them). If you're asking to change the title, what difference would it make since the new title would still MEAN the same thing. Edited March 10, 2014 by HeatRacer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinnak Posted March 10, 2014 Author Share Posted March 10, 2014 (edited) This is where you're not making sense to anyone here. That's right, this is RANKED awards we're talking about, and that's why there are different titles to display the different RANKS. The lower tier titles do not call the receiver "Loser" or even their Tier level. It isn't "insulting" them since they are not forced to use it. And frankly, your suggestion is kind of insulting to those who achieved Tier 2 and 3 since you're either advocating to take away their titles, or else merge them with the Tier 4 and 5's. So what exactly are you arguing for? That lower tiers should receive no title at all? (which no one appreciates people advocating to take things away from them). If you're asking to change the title, what difference would it make since the new title would still MEAN the same thing. Why are you asking what I'm arguing for? Have I not made that clear in the thead title and numerous posts? It doesn't sound like you even read the first post in this thread. So far everyone's claiming that it's no big deal because after all, you don't HAVE to show it, you're just stuck with it. That's the point, who wants a title that you're stuck with and couldn't care less about? What sort of reward is that? Is this ranked arenas or Dance of the Hutts? Common, do you really think those who qualify for the 5th, 4th, 3rd or 2nd best title would care if Bioware actually did what I suggested? Maybe some who qualify for the 1st and highest title would, but then again like I said in the first post maybe if a big majority think it's a big deal for those with the highest rating to have a unique title then just give those with the highest rating the title as well as a 2nd and completely different one. Or come up with some other reward to make them feel more valued. That way all who competed at least earned the same title and you don't feel stuck with a title that you'll never want to display. Edited March 10, 2014 by Slinnak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatRacer Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 (edited) Why are you asking what I'm arguing for? Have I not made that clear in the thead title and numerous posts? It doesn't sound like you even read the first post in this thread. So far everyone's claiming that it's no big deal because after all, you don't HAVE to show it, you're just stuck with it. That's the point, who wants a title that you're stuck with and couldn't care less about? What sort of reward is that? Is this ranked arenas or Dance of the Hutts? Common, do you really think those who qualify for the 5th, 4th, 3rd or 2nd best title would care if Bioware actually did what I suggested? Maybe some who qualify for the 1st and highest title would, but then again like I said in the first post maybe if a big majority think it's a big deal for those with the highest rating to have a unique title then just give those with the highest rating the title as well as a 2nd and completely different title. That way at least all who competed at least earned the same title and you don't feel stuck with a title that you'll never want to display. Why am I asking? Uh, that's because your thread title and post were arguing to remove something that wasn't actually there... So I asked you to clarify and just gave a couple answers to cover all the bases of what it seemed you were asking for. And it doesn't sound like you've read what everyone's been trying to tell you. But to restate yet again, yes I think 2nd and 3rd Tier would care that you want to lessen their achievement/titles by lumping them in with 4th and 5th Tier. Achieving 2nd or 3rd place (tier) in a competition and just being given a "Participant" award, as you suggest, is more insulting. What makes you think that having a lump-em-all-in title would somehow be more desirable to display? If you're so proud to show that you competed, then why are you suddenly so embarassed to show what tier you ended up at? And that's the point we're trying to make: you're not "stuck with" anything. You're given something you can either use, or not use, same as with the pet and armor you can get as awards. It's like me whining that I don't like the pet, and I'll never use it, and what kind of reward is that, so no one should get it. I've got like 20 titles available to pick from, and even though I would never use most of them, I certainly wouldn't advocate that no one should be able to get them just because I wouldn't display them. Going back to your sports competition analogy, what you're asking for is to remove the Silver and Bronze medals and just give everyone tin medals that say, "I was at the Olympics and all I got was this lousy medal". Other than the Rancor mount, these tier-specific titles are the only way for people to show what rating they achieved (if they so choose), and you're asking to take that away from them. That's why you have such vehement disbelief at the notion of your idea. Though it's a moot point since it's already a done deal. Edited March 10, 2014 by HeatRacer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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