ellrochell Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Dotsmash? Carnage? which one will be best? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maudril Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 DOTSmash is squishy, so Carnage I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vecte Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Smash is still going to have excellent single target burst, so their is no real reason to rule it out now. Yes, it's not going to be lolfaceroll in regs anymore, but it will still definitely have it's place. I do think we will see more Carnage though. Problem with Carnage are the Gore windows. If one of those gets whiffed, that's a pretty big damage loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maudril Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Smash is still going to have excellent single target burst HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA HA HA ehhhhh... ha? Wait, you were serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs_zoltan Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA HA HA ehhhhh... ha? Wait, you were serious? He was, but you are deluded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maudril Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 He was, but you are deluded. Deluded? Dude, the AOE damage was taken out of a spec centered around AOE? Thats like removing the Ravage reset from Vengeance and saying "Vengeance will still have great sustained damage, and its ravages are rooted!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tevzz Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 He was, but you are deluded. When you come face to face with a guy who has 30% AoE reduction...your Single Target DPS plummets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandLordMenace Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Put it this way, after 2.7 the only reason to run rage will be a second leap. Carnage will be better because it has better single target dps that isn't deflected by aoe DR, heck a procced scream with gore window hits as hard as smash, is a ranged attack, and its not the only attack in your arsenal, and carnage has more control. Smash has near zero place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusFTW Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) Ok first off i'd like to say that i'm a combat/carnage fanboy, i've played that spec since the start of 2.0 and its been my main spec to play since 8v8 rwz has been taken away since i don't need to ever play boring smash anymore.. but... i think people kinda underestimate rages burst on a single target sometimes.. vicious throw/dispatch as rage hits just as hard if not harder then a combat/carnage one with gore if it critsand it has higher chance to crit because of the talent.. scream still crits pretty hardravage will crit almost as hard as a carnage one with goreCrush dot can crit 5-6k on the last tickHell slash spam can crit for 5-6kObilterate when it crits.. it crits hard 5-6k as well. and guess what.. none of those numbers are limited to a small window to do the dmg. I mean . all the attacks will still crit pretty hard due to surge talent and you aren't limited to a small window (where you can be easily stunned/mezzed) to get those hits people seem to be forgetting this.. YES the spec isn't as good single target wise as combat/carnage in a perfect scenario but not its not gonna be as bad as people say its still gonna be alot simpler to play and harder to counter then carnage. You can call me bad or whatever but for me the surge talent was one of the most op things about rage because on top of that crazy aoe the rest of its attacks would crit really hard as well fair enough you just hit a poor sorc with a 10ksmash.. but then a 9-10k execute to finish him off xD and its still there so its not gonna be as bad as people make it out to be.. just what i'm saying. Edited February 20, 2014 by AngusFTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lafay Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) rage served the purpose of making the healer choose who to keep up and who to let go, after the nerf they will all laugh at rage spec, as it deservingly it has the worst single target dps. Its only use was to pressure healers. And if there is a tank present, really a smash mara isnt all that good because a taunt and a bunch of people speced in to aoe reduction = full power smashes for 3-5k. In 4v4s smash mara and jugs are easy to prepare for and easily handled by cc/taunt/aoe%reduction/focus. Sooo.... to answer the question what to spec as after 2.7? = logout of mara, then log in to AP pt. Continue to pressure healers... Seriously, only AP pt will hold the crown as aoe burst. that make sence for ya? rage will be of 0 use accept for maybe duels and some trash mobs in an operation. Edited February 20, 2014 by Lafay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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