MarcheseAMM Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) Your inability to understand game mechanics is not my fault. *shrug* I have a pretty great understanding of game mechanics. I have contacted the writers and mechanics of SWTOR many times, trying to understand certain cutscene feats and abilities (they were normally annoyed I emailed them). Edited January 4, 2015 by MarcheseAMM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) I have a pretty great understanding of game mechanics. I have contacted the writers and mechanics of SWTOR many times, trying to understand certain cutscene feats and abilities (they were normally annoyed I emailed them). Which means any answer they gave you was not their "official" response but what ever it took to shut you up and leave them alone. They told you what you wanted to hear, not the truth. (if any of what you are saying is even true at all). Edited January 4, 2015 by tunewalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I have a pretty great understanding of game mechanics. I have contacted the writers and mechanics of SWTOR many times, trying to understand certain cutscene feats and abilities (they were normally annoyed I emailed them). Then, please, enlighten me. What did they say about the feat in question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 Not at all, your failure to understand Revan's unique connection to the Force is your fault, not mine. The text, emails, guides, and even codex entries specifically state Revan has learned to balance both sides of the Force in a way never seen before except the likes of the Father from the Mortis trilogy arc. And it certainly is possible, as stated by the codex entry you even quote: "They contend that simultaneously knowing and embracing both the light and dark sides of the Force is possible, and point to Revan as potential proof." So yeah, get a source that says the following sources have no credibility or else I accept your automatic concession for eternity. Thanks. Star Wars: The Old Republic Star Wars: The Old Republic: RevanStar Wars: The Old Republic EncyclopediaStar Wars: The Old Republic: Shadow of RevanStatements that are intepretable, deliberately made vague and most importantly do not outright state that Revan could and did wield the light and dark simultaneously in any regular sense. And in that respect, I require no alternate statement, just intepretable evidence that speaks to the contrary. Regardless, if you are not prepared to respond to my argument in full, I am not interested, I have no intention of engaging in any more petty mud slinging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcheseAMM Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Then, please, enlighten me. What did they say about the feat in question? I never asked them about the feat, I asked them about how the Dread Masters could talk to the people and ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 Do you also dislike the Bane books,as @Selenial does?No I very much like the Bane Trilogy and though Revan from a literary standpoint is not his best work, believe him to be an excellent writer and enjoy all his other material, nor do I dislike him as a person. That doesn't change the fact he is a dumb@ss when it comes to lore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcheseAMM Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Statements that are intepretable, deliberately made vague and most importantly do not outright state that Revan could and did wield the light and dark simultaneously in any regular sense. And in that respect, I require no alternate statement, just intepretable evidence that speaks to the contrary. Regardless, if you are not prepared to respond to my argument in full, I am not interested, I have no intention of engaging in any more petty mud slinging. Lol, I accept your concession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 Your failure to comprehend the game in ways KMC people can is not my fault.You haven't done a very good job of explaining your arguments, if you did we might listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I never asked them about the feat, I asked them about how the Dread Masters could talk to the people and ****. I'm finding it difficult to understand why you seem to think you have a greater understanding of the mechanics than anyone else then. At this point it's just interpretations. Fortunately I have my college education on programming to assist me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcheseAMM Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 You haven't done a very good job of explaining your arguments, if you did we might listen. That's because I'm multitasking doing my ComicVine debate, my debate with LeGenD on KMC, replying to YouTube comments on JDGamer's newest video, working on my Revan respect thread, and trying to solve relationship issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 That's because I'm multitasking doing my ComicVine debate, my debate with LeGenD on KMC, replying to YouTube comments on JDGamer's newest video, working on my Revan respect thread, and trying to solve relationship issues.Then I guess I'll wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcheseAMM Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Then I guess I'll wait. Link me to everything I need to respond too, I'll make a folder and bookmark it. I literally just got yelled at for talking to two people after they left a group conversation because I wasn't talking to them in the *********** group conversation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 That's because I'm multitasking doing my ComicVine debate, my debate with LeGenD on KMC, replying to YouTube comments on JDGamer's newest video, working on my Revan respect thread, and trying to solve relationship issues. Considering the last one there, if you really want to keep her, take my advice, Drop the rest of the activities this second, come back to them when Life is straightened out. If you are just in High school, then nvm you will figure it out on your own soon enough after you finally get to the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I'm not going to get back into the whole nexus thing, because I already dealt with that issue. I will, however, encourage a more logical approach to Revan's asteroid feat. I find it unlikely that Revan could throw down all of those asteroids while simultaneously being attacked by four individuals at once. It is an exaggerated feat in this sense. I'm just going to quote this. This is one of the reasons I believe it to be exaggerated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Alright, thinking on it more, does this whole asteroid thing really matter? He moved asteroids, that's great. We know he did it. And, yes, while I think the scale to which he did it is muddled in the mechanics, the fact he did it is enough in my opinion. I think that should be enough for everyone, so can we drop it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaedusz Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) I very much like the Bane Trilogy /thumbs up telling the story of Bane without going too off the radar is always enjoyable to read/listen to(audio book) Edited January 4, 2015 by Kaedusz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Alright, thinking on it more, does this whole asteroid thing really matter? He moved asteroids, that's great. We know he did it. And, yes, while I think the scale to which he did it is muddled in the mechanics, the fact he did it is enough in my opinion. I think that should be enough for everyone, so can we drop it? Personally I dont consider that any better then what he did against Vitiate any way. Honestly I put "moving astroids" below "moving star fighters" any way since Fighters actively act against while Asteroids dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 On that topic, we should probably make a concerted effort to justify our verdicts mathematically, not my strong suit unfortunately, but I think factoring in things like weight, speed etc. could help us make more accurate comparisons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 On that topic, we should probably make a concerted effort to justify our verdicts mathematically, not my strong suit unfortunately, but I think factoring in things like weight, speed etc. could help us make more accurate comparisons. Other factors, could be multi-tasking, and resistant forces. (resistant forces being BOTH Force related and mechanical/ biological related or potentially all 3). Also things like amount of strain shown. Looking at contemporaries that they are considered "more powerful" then helps as well since rarely do we see the limits of all the characters in the EU, as such some times we see Lesser force users display stronger TK or what have you then what a "more power TK user" has been seen using simply because the later didnt find himself in a situation to need to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 On that topic, we should probably make a concerted effort to justify our verdicts mathematically, not my strong suit unfortunately, but I think factoring in things like weight, speed etc. could help us make more accurate comparisons. What if an object doesn't have a weight provided? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Does anyone have the junior novelization of Revenge of the Sith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 What if an object doesn't have a weight provided? Well there's the rub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Well there's the rub. There's also the kind of object, its size and mass, and its mineral contents (for stone and stuff). It's not exactly an easy thing to do. We may have to just take size and object type into account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Well there's the rub. Fun fact, Weight is relative to the gravity around you.... technically asteroids and ships in space have 0 weight... just fun facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Fun fact, Weight is relative to the gravity around you.... technically asteroids and ships in space have 0 weight... just fun facts. Well, yes, everyone knows that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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