Aurbere Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Let's compromise here. Revan can use Force Destruction, Revan can telekinetically assault multiple individuals at a time, some of them being powerful Force users, Revan can grip and throw small asteroids. Is that good enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcheseAMM Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Revan can use Force Destruction Obviously. Revan can telekinetically assault multiple individuals at a time *multiple immensely powerful Force-individual legends. Revan can grip and throw small asteroids. *30 small asteroids in a small duration of time during combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 Let's compromise here. Revan can use Force Destruction, Revan can telekinetically assault multiple individuals at a time, some of them being powerful Force users, Revan can grip and throw small asteroids. Is that good enough?Basic assumptions are probably the best ones. However are we also in agreement that Dark Revan was being amped by the DS nexus? Its the only explanation I have for the disparity in power between him and Revan Reborn, both in the Foundry and in the novel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) That makes probably less sense then Fay>Mortis.Even less so than this?Incorrect, the meteor feat is canonically not game mechanics in the same context as every other attack in the game. It is scripted to the actual level itself, not to Revan's character, and should therefore be regarded as canon as the map.Seems unlikely. Edited January 4, 2015 by Beniboybling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcheseAMM Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 However are we also in agreement that Dark Revan was being amped by the DS nexus? Its the only explanation I have for the disparity in power between him and Revan Reborn, both in the Foundry and in the novel. The amp was marginal... most of the Temples that contained power were destroyed, including the main ones. Also, by that logic, the Wrath, Beniko, and Marr were also amped, so it's pretty much irrelevant at this point. Also Satele Shan used Battle Meditation during the fight to greatly increase everyone's fighting prowess and the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkelefantos Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 One is most likely because nothing indicates that the Spirit protected him, like a buff or something as far as I'm aware. More proof that Eval Revan is a massive moron. So powerful and evil his voice is distorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 The amp was marginal... most of the Temples that contained power were destroyed, including the main ones. Also, by that logic, the Wrath, Beniko, and Marr were also amped, so it's pretty much irrelevant at this point. Also Satele Shan used Battle Meditation during the fight to greatly increase everyone's fighting prowess and the like. If the gap were marginal, then a supposedly more powerful Revan Reborn should have been able to incapacitate the Imperial strike team with ease as well as the Imperial guardsmen he fought on Kaas. He didn't. And why are you referring to the Wrath as if his/her presence was canon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Obviously. *multiple immensely powerful Force-individual legends. *30 small asteroids in a small duration of time during combat. All of those asteroids is an exaggerated game mechanic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 So powerful and evil his voice is distorted. Not according to Revan, i.e. sane Revan, I think this warrants further discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkelefantos Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 If the gap were marginal, then a supposedly more powerful Revan Reborn should have been able to incapacitate the Imperial strike team with ease as well as the Imperial guardsmen he fought on Kaas. He didn't. And why are you referring to the Wrath as if his/her presence was canon? Because the Wrath gets bonus dialogue from the Emperor. Clearly, that makes it canon. Obviously. note the small bit of sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 The amp was marginal... most of the Temples that contained power were destroyed, including the main ones. Also, by that logic, the Wrath, Beniko, and Marr were also amped, so it's pretty much irrelevant at this point. Also Satele Shan used Battle Meditation during the fight to greatly increase everyone's fighting prowess and the like. The codex states that the planet itself is strong in the Dark Side. And Satele's Battle Meditation would have been weakened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcheseAMM Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 The codex states that the planet itself is strong in the Dark Side. And Satele's Battle Meditation would have been weakened. The planet is strong because of all the temple's of ancient power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkelefantos Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Not according to Revan, i.e. sane Revan, I think this warrants further discussion. Well, you have to consider that Revan's strongest during the Foundry fight is when he goes full Dark Side - I'm guessing it goes a bit like this: Revan in the novel (peak) > Dark Revan on Yavin > Revan in the Foundry (already struggling mentally, perhaps?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcheseAMM Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Not according to Revan, i.e. sane Revan, I think this warrants further discussion. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=787462 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 The planet is strong because of all the temple's of ancient power. I find it unlikely that destroying the Temples (which actually don't get destroyed) would somehow cleanse the planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcheseAMM Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I find it unlikely that destroying the Temples (which actually don't get destroyed) would somehow cleanse the planet. Because sources state the dark power were locked inside the temples, and the whole temple area gets bombarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Because sources state the dark power were locked inside the temples, and the whole temple area gets bombarded. And the Temples weren't destroyed. Even if some were, not all of them get destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcheseAMM Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 And the Temples weren't destroyed. Even if some were, not all of them get destroyed. It's safe to assume they were destroyed by the bombing runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 It's safe to assume they were destroyed by the bombing runs. Plenty of Temples still remain, so I'd like to assume that they weren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcheseAMM Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Plenty of Temples still remain, so I'd like to assume that they weren't. Proof? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Proof? In game, in history, is that not proof enough? I guess I can get to Yavin on an Imp to see what happens, if you really need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcheseAMM Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 In game, in history, is that not proof enough? I guess I can get to Yavin on an Imp to see what happens, if you really need it. The Exar Kun stuff was not located in the Massassi complex that was bombarded... that was on a different part of the planet. And in game, we specifically see the Temple being bombarded, then the cutscene stops. Safe to assume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 The Exar Kun stuff was not located in the Massassi complex that was bombarded... that was on a different part of the planet. And in game, we specifically see the Temple being bombarded, then the cutscene stops. Safe to assume. Well, the fight takes place at a Temple, so Revan probably still benefited from some external energy. So did the Dark Siders, of course. I suppose it doesn't really matter. If we assume Revan was 'buffed' then so were Marr and Lana. Even though Satele would have been weakened, the benefit from her Battle Meditation would probably have offset that anyway. So, it probably balances out, with a marginal benefit to the Strike Team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcheseAMM Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Good. It is. Now all you have to do is accept the asteroid feat is an exaggerated game mechanic and we'll be golden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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