MarcheseAMM Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 My knowledge on Revan surpasses this entire forum boards combined times fifteen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 My knowledge on Revan surpasses this entire forum boards combined times fifteen. And I'm sure we'll take the information you so kindly provide into account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcheseAMM Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Seriously, what are the people you are judging? Acting like you and Beni are the ultimate masters of the forum is funny at first, but now it is just getting annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Seriously, what are the people you are judging? Acting like you and Beni are the ultimate masters of the forum is funny at first, but now it is just getting annoying. I'm guessing you aren't a fan of how we will be doing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcheseAMM Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 This is how I will handle it: I'll wait till the lists are complete, then personally annoy you to the point where you have to change Revan and Cade to where they should actually be because you lack knowledge on Star Wars to put them in the correct place. Hopefully Selenial should put you and Beni in your place though. She doesn't take BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Considering that Starkiller II was defeated by Vader I wouldn't say he was considerably more powerful, or he would have overwhelmed and defeated Vader quite handily. However I still think we could just have the Clone replace him. Also, another thing, feats on Darth Caedus? I feel we are in desperate need of info, practically everything I have is second hand, Wookieepedia is of much use so I expect there is a lot I'm missing and things that are inaccurate. So anyone with the Legacy of Force series wanna do a quick recon? Vader > Starkiller. I think what every one has forgotten is Vader got stronger between Pre A New Hope and RotJ. He also got stronger between Galen and Starkiller. Starkiller II was STRONGER then Galen, yet Galen beat Vader and Starkiller II lost to him. This points to what me and wolf have talked about SEVERAL times that is eluded to in both Shadow's of the Empire and Return of the Jedi Novel. That Vader became MUCH more powerful then he was in A New Hope, possibly even as much as twice as strong. When you take that into consideration, its very easy to see why the Second Star killer (who was more powerful then the first) LOST to Vader while the first one won against him. Its a showing of just how much more powerful Vader had become by that point. So Vader above Star killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 This is how I will handle it: I'll wait till the lists are complete, then personally annoy you to the point where you have to change Revan and Cade to where they should actually be because you lack knowledge on Star Wars to put them in the correct place. Hopefully Selenial should put you and Beni in your place though. She doesn't take BS. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bijbF3gkNk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcheseAMM Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 You're lucky we aren't on KMC. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) You're lucky we aren't on KMC. :lol: I'm fully aware of what you would do. Kinda one of the reasons I don't go on there anymore. I get enough of that over here. Edited January 2, 2015 by Aurbere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Situations yeah, like that he lifted off the most intense gravity vertex in the history of Star Wars? Also, most of the Force energy was concentrated below the surface according to KotOR2TSLPG. YOu mean like the situation where Vader (anakin: Vader> Anakin) Subdued the Living Embodyments of the Light side AND the Dark side Simultaneously. Also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMUKGTkiWik "Size Matter not, Look at me judge me by my Size do you? And where you should not" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcheseAMM Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I'm fully aware of what you would do. Kinda one of the reasons I don't go on there anymore. I get enough of that over here. Seriously though, Revan must be 3-5 on the list to be considered anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Seriously though, Revan must be 3-5 on the list to be considered anything. Which list? We're doing several. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Vader > Starkiller. I think what every one has forgotten is Vader got stronger between Pre A New Hope and RotJ. He also got stronger between Galen and Starkiller. Starkiller II was STRONGER then Galen, yet Galen beat Vader and Starkiller II lost to him. This points to what me and wolf have talked about SEVERAL times that is eluded to in both Shadow's of the Empire and Return of the Jedi Novel. That Vader became MUCH more powerful then he was in A New Hope, possibly even as much as twice as strong. When you take that into consideration, its very easy to see why the Second Star killer (who was more powerful then the first) LOST to Vader while the first one won against him. Its a showing of just how much more powerful Vader had become by that point. So Vader above Star killer. That and Galen had advantage of knowing Vader's style and being quick. Although...why Vader didn't have the same knowledge of Galen, no idea. Even still, yes Vader grew more powerful/stronger up to ROTJ where he was at his peak. Pre-ANH, Vader was a shadow of his former self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Seriously though, Revan must be 3-5 on the list to be considered anything. Luke, Sidious, Caedus, Yoda, Vitiate. He sets in at 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcheseAMM Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) Luke, Sidious, Caedus, Yoda, Vitiate. He sets in at 6. I mean for Jedi, not everyone. Edited January 2, 2015 by MarcheseAMM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Luke, Sidious, Caedus, Yoda, Vitiate. He sets in at 6. Eh, maybe. But that's what comparisons are for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcheseAMM Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 It should be open for public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted January 2, 2015 Author Share Posted January 2, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bijbF3gkNkMajor lawls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 It is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 It should be open for public. Tee hee. Don't worry about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcheseAMM Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 It is. Surprised you are letting Beni and Aurbere bully you around. Disappointed. Note: It was hard to write Beni's name there without calling him something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Surprised you are letting Beni and Aurbere bully you around. Disappointed. Note: It was hard to write Beni's name there without calling him something else. She has a voice of her own. If she wants to say something, she will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) That and Galen had advantage of knowing Vader's style and being quick. Although...why Vader didn't have the same knowledge of Galen, no idea. Even still, yes Vader grew more powerful/stronger up to ROTJ where he was at his peak. Pre-ANH, Vader was a shadow of his former self. Looking at that respect thread there are feats comparing Vader's speed to Yoda, which when you think about it makes some sense as well. Considering Yoda fought Sidious in RotS and lost there and we KNOW Sidious got stronger going into RotJ as well it could very well be that Vader was on the same level as Yoda (of course its not 100% proof that he is, but its surely a possibility) as the extra "20%" that the Emperor was above Vader could have come AFTER Sidious beat Yoda. Further more this would make sense why Yoda would tell Luke that "No more training do you require, already know you that what you need" believing Luke strong enough to defeat Vader and the Emperor, but ONLY if he went in intending to kill them, if he underestimated them at all or held back Obi-wan and Yoda both believed he would fail. Of course in the end it was his refusal to kill Vader that ultimately saved him as the Emperor was even stronger then Obi-wan or Yoda believed him to be. Edit:this wouldnt lower Yoda on the list simply because last I checked he was confirmed "most powerful Jedi pre- Luke" Edited January 2, 2015 by tunewalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted January 2, 2015 Author Share Posted January 2, 2015 Surprised you are letting Beni and Aurbere bully you around. Disappointed. Note: It was hard to write Beni's name there without calling him something else.You of all people need not tell Selenial how to behave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 You of all people need not tell Selenial how to behave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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