BossaMatam Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Greetings all. Since the game seems to be generalizing and somewhat vague about the ranks of both enlisted and officers within the Republic and Imperial military chain-of-command, I did a bit of speculation and research. In the end, I came up with a listing of ranks for both factions that seems to fit within the few bits of data the game has given us. NOTE! These are just speculation and in no way is it meant that BioWare/EA has set these as the actual ranks in the game. I did figure this would be a good suggestion for the Devs to help flesh out anything they may have in the works, as well as help any player who's RPing as either a Trooper or Agent. With that said, here's my list. Enjoy! OFFICER RANKS of the Galactic Republic & Sith Empire Overall Leader Supreme Commander - Minister of War Rank/Class Lvl Republic Navy / Imperial Navy - Republic Army/Marines / Imperial Army/Marines O10 Fleet Admiral / Moff/Grand Moff - Field Marshall / Moff/Grand Moff O9 Admiral / Admiral - General / General O8 Vice Admiral / Vice Admiral - Maj. General O7 Rear Admiral / Rear Admiral - Lt. General / Lt. General O6 Commodore / Commodore - Brigadier General O5 Captain / Captain - Colonel / Colonel O4 Commander / Commander - Lt. Colonel / Lt. Colonel O3 Lt. Commander / Lt. Commander - Major / Major O2 Lieutenant / Lieutenant - Captain / Captain O1 Sublieutenant / Lieutenant 2nd Class - 1st Lieutenant* / Lieutenant* Ensign / Ensign - 2nd Lieutenant* / Lieutenant* 2nd Class (* -- Imperials pronounce this as "Leftenant") ENLISTED/NON-COMM OFFICER RANKS of the Galactic Republic & Sith Empire Rank/Class Lvl Navy - Army/Marines E9 Master Chief Petty Officer - Sergeant Major / Command Sgt. Major E8 Senior Chief Petty Officer - Master Sgt. / 1st Sergeant E7 Chief Petty Officer - Sergeant 1st Class E6 Petty Officer 1st Class - Sergeant E5 Petty Officer 2nd Class - Technical Sergeant E4 Petty Officer 3rd Class - Specialist E3 Seaman - Corporal E2 Seaman Apprentice - Private 1st Class E1 Seaman Recruit - Private 2nd Class I based the ranks on the current usage of the US and UK Military ranking, as recognized by NATO. If there are any discrepancies or errors, I apologize in advance. I'll work to make corrections in a future post. Thanks for reading! - BossaMatam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperGrunt Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 My understanding is that Moff, Grand Moff, and Under Moff are all titles more than Ranks. Meaning that they are more akin to Governor than Admiral. Granted with the Imperial story line all citizens are in the military, but that doesn't mean that they are going by their rank, and in this case I would assume that it wasn't or else the Under Moff for Makeb would have been giving either the regular Moff title instead of a new one being made just for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osetto Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 The Old Republic Encyclopedia gives a list of ranks for the Republic and Imperial Armed Forces. They're rather similar and there's a chance there are more ranks and titles between them, but these are the most official listings I could find. And the fact that they're listed in two columns in the book means my ordering might be wrong. Republic Army Ranks -General -Colonel -Major -Captain -Lieutenant -Ensign -Sergeant -Corporal -Specialist -Private Republic Navy Ranks -Admiral -Commodore -Group Captain -Captain -Lieutenant -Ensign -Petty Officer -Corporal -Specialist -Private The Supreme Commander is the highest ranking military official in the Republic. They advise the Senate and the Supreme Chancellor in military decisions, and are responsible for the direction of the Republic's Generals and Admirals whenever a new plan in enacted. 'Commander' is not an official rank, but a title bestowed upon anyone in a position of command. It's become tradition to use the title as an honorific for combat officers who have demonstrated superior leadership over the course of a long service career, worthy of respect regardless of their actual rank or current position. Imperial Army Ranks -General -Colonel -Major -Captain -Lieutenant -Ensign -Sergeant -Corporal -Specialist -Private Imperial Navy Ranks -Admiral -Commodore -Group Captain -Captain -Lieutenant -Ensign -Petty Officer -Corporal -Specialist -Private Moffs are officers above both generals and admirals who have authority over both infantry and naval forces. The Grand Moff is the most decorated of these officers and is considered more of an honorary title since it doesn't hold intrinsic special privileges, but they often develop closer ties to the Dark Council and are given the freedom to pursue their own objectives due to their prestige. Both the Moffs and the Grand Moff report directly to the Minister of War. Bonus bit of information regarding Imperial Organizational Units: -Assault Group: 40,000+ troops -Division: 20,000-40,000 -Brigade: 5,000-7,500 -Battalion: 700-1,500 -Company: 100-300 -Platoon: 50-100 -Squad: 5-10 -Fire Team: 2-3 Assault Groups are special formations created to carry out important large-scale operations under the command of a Moff or high-ranking Sith Lord. Once the operation is complete, the Assault Group is broken up into ordinary division-level assignments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BossaMatam Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 Osetto -- The problem I have with that listing is the fact both Enlisted and Officer ranks have been lumped together. Plus the fact they're (again) being too generalized and vague with the total spread of ranks between them. It doesn't make sense to jump from Major to Colonel (O3 grade to O5), as there has to be an intermediate rank in there. Commander as an "honorary" title... I can see unit members calling their C.O. Commander, but the actual rank has to be there. It just makes sense to me. Aside from the fact I know they've skipped several ranks for the enlisted. It has been confirmed that the Republic does have a Sergeant 1st Class (E7), as Elara Dorne in the Trooper story confirms this when she introduces herself to your character. Plus, as the Republic and Imperial Navies both clearly stemmed from traditional "Wet" Navies, it doesn't make sense to have Private and Corporals in their ranks. The logical titles would either be Seaman or Starman (though Bill Baldwin -- author of the Helmsman series, a well done space opera fiction -- uses Starman or Starsailor almost exclusively). -- BossaMatam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Nex Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 (edited) Don't forget there is a "Lieutenant Major" in the Empire, as in Lieutenant Major Pirrell on Taris. Edited September 24, 2016 by Dr_Nex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlavivsAetivs Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 (edited) These are the actual ranks as outlined on Wookieepedia: - Admiral of the Fleet - Admiral of the Core Worlds - Vice Admiral - Rear Admiral - Commodore - Captain - Lieutenant - Ensign http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Republic_Navy/Legends Of course there may be more inbetween there, but there are several unique ones. ~ Eudoxia Edited September 24, 2016 by FlavivsAetivs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthEiboba Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 I'm going to be one of those people whom respond to a post that is years out of date, but anywho. Considering the timeline of the game currently, as far as the Imperial military is concerned, I see it as reasonable that a reform in the ranks would have occurred. The list given by Bioware is not only vague, but the Imp ranks pretty much mirror those of the Republic witj few exceptions which, to me, does not make sense. So the system the guilds I have been in for the Republic use the modern day U.S. Army or Marine Corps rank structure. For Empire, my guild uses the British Army rank scale. To show what these systems look like: SITH EMPIRE - IMPERIAL ARMY Minister of War Grand Moff Moff Surface Marshall (this is a Galactic Empire rank) General Lieutenant General Major General Brigadier General Colonel Lieutenant Colonel Major Captain Lieutenant Second Lieutenant ENLISTED Warrant Officer I (or Sergeant Major dependant on career path) Warrant Officer II (same as above) Colour Sergeant Sergeant Corporal Lance Corporal Private IMPERIAL NAVY Grand Moff / Moff Fleet Admiral Admiral Vice Admiral Rear Admiral Commodore Captain Commander Lieutenant-Commander Lieutenant Sub-lieutenant Ensign ENLISTED RANKS Warrant Officer I Chief Petty Officer Petty Officer Leading Crewman Able Crewman Crewman REPUBLIC ARMY RANKS Supreme Commander General Lieutenant General Major General Brigadier General Colonel Lieutenant Colonel Major Captain First Lieutenant Second Lieutenant ENLISTED Command Sergeant Major Sergeant Major First Sergeant / Master Sergeant Sergeant First Class Staff Sergeant Sergeant Corporal / Specialist Private First Class Private Private (recruit) REPUBLIC MARINES (if you choose to go with it) General Lieutenant General Major General Brigadier General Colonel Lieutenant Colonel Major Captain First Lieutenant Second Lieutenant ENLISTED Sergeant Major / Master Gunnery Sergeant First Sergeant / Master Sergeant Gunnery Sergeant Staff Sergeant Sergeant Corporal Lance Corporal Private First Class Private REPUBLIC NAVY Admiral Vice Admiral Rear Admiral (Upper Half) Rear Admiral (Lower Half) Captain Commander Lieutenant Commander Lieutenant Lieutenant Junior Grade Ensign ENLISTED RANKS Master Chief Petty Officer Senior Chief Petty Officer Chief Petty Officer Petty Officer First Class Petty Officer Second Class Petty Officer Third Class Crewman Crewman Apprentice Crewman Recruit Spaceman can be used interchangeably with Crewman. Though I believe Crewman sounds better, but if you want you want to keep to the logic of "Seaman" becoming "Spaceman," that's cool too. Like I said, for the Republic ranks that is what guilds have gone with that I've been in and it makes sense since the Republic is supposed to be Space 'Merica. With the Empire, my guild uses the British ranks with some Galactic Empire ranks thrown in because they're Space Brits. The reason for the inclusion of Galactic Empire ranks (such as Surface Marshall) is because the Galactic Empire uses an amalgam of British military ranks and circa-WWII German military ranks. And, as we all know, the Sith Empire are Space Nazis. Space Nazis with a British accent. Brazis. Anywho. That is what I go with and it works. I believe it makes the most sense and is a lot less vague and, also, adds a longer track of progression for members of the military to climb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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