Sawatzky Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 and are you running on max settings? if so can you post your specs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeNaCe-NZ Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 I fixed the FPS and it's back up to 157 FPS max in WZs. I'd accidentally changed one of the AMD crimson settings. This is my AMD crimson settings if you want to try it out (if you have a RX 480) Antialiasing mode - override application Antialiasing level - 2xEQ Antialiasing filter - standard Antialiasing method - multisampling Morphological filtering - off Anisotropic filter mode - use application settings Texture filter quality - high Surface format optimisation- on Vertical sync - off unless specified OpenGL buffering - off Shader cache - on Tessellation - use application Frame rate control - 160 FPS Swtor settings Vertical sync off Resolution- 5760 x 1080 Bloom off Conversation depth off Texture quality high Shader quality high Antialiasing off Character lvl detail high Texture anisotropy high Character texture atlasing high Visible character limit very high Shadow quality off Shadow map cascades medium (but it's disabled anyway) Grass render medium Tree quality 20 Grass quality 20 Put a video up because I'd love to see this in WZ fps in action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeNaCe-NZ Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Yeah but any pc with an i5 or i3 isnt' going to be a thousand dollars unless you're putting dual titans or something insane in it. (I'd like to mention that an i3 probably couldn't even run dual titans but still.) On various websites (I like cyberpower but the deals right now are meh.) you can build a decent PC using an i3 or i5 processor with a decent enough card and set up for SWTOR all for less than 500 bucks. You'll have to look if you want the i3 but most places still sell the i5. You could actually probably find something similar to my current set up for much cheaper than I paid since I got it almost 2 years ago. Mine was 1200 dollars then so it can't be that expensive now. Also newegg's refurbished section is hard to navigate but sometimes has some decent ones. I saw one in december's costco coupons that would easily run SWTOR if not necessarily super new games. I recommend waiting until March if you use cyberpower. I got mine during their march madness deals or it would have been 2200 or more. Less assumptions then and more linking the OP to this $500 build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tummiswtor Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) GRAPHIC CARD IS NOTHING IN SWTOR. I can play on Ultra (without shadows) or low and there's maybe 5 fps difference. I changed CPU from Amd FX to i7 and i have 2x more fps. SWTOR is HEAVY CPU depended. Get any good single-thread performance https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html But still You can have best CPU and GPU, ssd disc, and still fps drops, specially on Warzones. Here You have i7-6700 - GTX 960 (easy pass high req.) You can see how engine is optimalized with average 34 fps in WZ. Edited January 7, 2017 by tummiswtor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neshira Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Less assumptions then and more linking the OP to this $500 build. I mentioned several sites in which he could go build his own. It's his PC and he should be the one building it for his budget, skill level, and needs. Nothing I build will be exactly what he needs. I'm just saying that there's no reason that everyone should be assuming that he's going to need a thousand dollar PC to run a 5 year old game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tummiswtor Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) he's going to need a thousand dollar PC to run a 5 year old game. He need thousand dolar PC to run non-optimalized engine game. But even with that it is not sure game will run smooth. Edited January 7, 2017 by tummiswtor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeNaCe-NZ Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 I mentioned several sites in which he could go build his own. It's his PC and he should be the one building it for his budget, skill level, and needs. Nothing I build will be exactly what he needs. I'm just saying that there's no reason that everyone should be assuming that he's going to need a thousand dollar PC to run a 5 year old game. Examples are nice because so far you've more or less made a statement around the level of performance he should be able to get for around $500 as opposed to actually supporting it with any evidence. List the parts and prices this way others can either go "yes that's a good deal go with that" or "no that won't get you the performance you are after". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoopicus Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 No offense to anyone but building a PC just capable enough to run this game would probably be a pretty bad plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixxieTriss Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Put a video up because I'd love to see this in WZ fps in action. It's a pain in the butt, plus using fraps actually decreases the FPS about 30 and gives me ability activation lag. Ill try and take a screen shot with my iPhone, what's the best way to post it so you can see it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixxieTriss Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) GRAPHIC CARD IS NOTHING IN SWTOR. I can play on Ultra (without shadows) or low and there's maybe 5 fps difference. I changed CPU from Amd FX to i7 and i have 2x more fps. SWTOR is HEAVY CPU depended. Get any good single-thread performance https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html But still You can have best CPU and GPU, ssd disc, and still fps drops, specially on Warzones. Here You have i7-6700 - GTX 960 (easy pass high req.) You can see how engine is optimalized with average 34 fps in WZ. What FPS do you play with and what resolution. Also do you play pvp? While the game has always been extremely CPU dependent, the new settings have off loaded some to the graphics card. If 60-70 FPS is acceptable gameplay, then most mid range graphics cards can do that. But if you want to play 100+ FPS as a minimum, then a good graphics card is essential. That YouTube vid was from July 2016, so it doesn't take into account the new graphics settings. Also that guy said he averaged 20-40fps on low to medium with a really good setup at home. This is Completely different to any highend system I've built in the last 18 months. Even before the latest graphics upgrades to the game, I would get 100 FPS at the start in the respawn and it would fluctuate between 50-80 FPS. Very occasionally it would drop to 40 FPS briefly when the server was having issues or there were lots of the same WZ instances running. So my average was usually between 60-70 FPS. I should add that I run pure gaming rig setups. This means I strip down windows services and back ground apps and tasks to the bare minimum. I also put my security programs into silent (gaming mode). With Windows 10 it also requires some reg hacks and policy adjustments to actually turn off some things that used to be done under services Most people say this was something you only had to do when using XP and it will only give you a small performance boost, if any. But Microsoft have added so much track or what I would say is de facto malware and also bloatware, that turning lots of things off does actually improve performance (and also stops Microsoft from monitoring your usage and metadata. Most IT specialists secure their systems by disabling that tracking and bloatware) You can see from my previous post what my graphics settings are, so I won't rehash that. But here is my actual system specs. i7 4970k @ 4.6 ghz water cooled (with throttle turned off) Asus Maximus Formula motherboard water cooled 16gb G.skill trindent ram 3 Samsung 850 pro 256gb SSDs Sapphire RX 480 nitro 3 x Asus 24" monitors @ 5760 x 1080. I am now averaging 120-157 FPS in WZs. Edited January 8, 2017 by TrixxieTriss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwenBrooks Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) TrixxieTriss try using imgur.com to post the pic I would recommend a GTX 1060 as the video card for mid stream GPU with say a i5 6600K CPU Spoiler is about my system My system I get over 100fps on fleet with 166 other people at 2560 x 1440 on ultra settings (fullscreen window mode) See this pic sitting on 164fps for example - link but I do have what some would call a super computer i7 6700k + GTX1080 Edited January 8, 2017 by OwenBrooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixxieTriss Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) TrixxieTriss try using imgur.com to post the pic I would recommend a GTX 1060 as the video card for mid stream GPU with say a i5 6600K CPU Spoiler is about my system My system I get over 100fps on fleet with 166 other people at 2560 x 1440 on ultra settings (fullscreen window mode) See this pic sitting on 164fps for example - link but I do have what some would call a super computer i7 6700k + GTX1080 What's your OC? Also good FPS Edited January 8, 2017 by TrixxieTriss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwenBrooks Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 What's your OC? Also good FPS It was only at 4.17 GHz I haven't specifically overclocked when took that picture the bios did that all on its own as had just updated the bios just before the picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeNaCe-NZ Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 It was only at 4.17 GHz I haven't specifically overclocked when took that picture the bios did that all on its own as had just updated the bios just before the picture Whats your WZ performance like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwenBrooks Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) Whats your WZ performance like? 133 fps roughly see Picture link Edited January 8, 2017 by OwenBrooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeNaCe-NZ Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 133 fps roughly see Picture link And @ 4.1 wow ... is that just since 5.0 or were you getting similar previously? I knew 5.0 brought some nice performance bumps but didn't realise the WZ jump was quite so high ... almost enough for me to start giving PVP a go again. It was one thing to be laggy due to ping but another to get such jumpy fps with the dips into uncomfortable feeling fps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwenBrooks Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) I dont normally PvP so cant say how fps was previously, I went into the warzone just to find out and died (quite a lot actually) but I did kill one person i think i'm sure he fell over my corpse and hit his head and died Max fps open world is about 215 fps now though where before it is was 111 So think a GTX 1060 as the GPU with a i5 6600K CPU for the OP should do fairly reasonable on ultra now based on benchmarks, mind higher is always better so if he wants a GTX1070 or GTX 1080 thats fine too Edited January 8, 2017 by OwenBrooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeNaCe-NZ Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 I dont normally PvP so cant say how fps was previously, I went into the warzone just to find out and died (quite a lot actually) but I did kill one person i think i'm sure he fell over my corpse and hit his head and died Max fps open world is about 215 fps now though where before it is was 111 So think a GTX 1060 as the GPU with a i5 6600K CPU for the OP should do fairly reasonable on ultra now based on benchmarks, mind higher is always better so if he wants a GTX1070 or GTX 1080 thats fine too Another question for you and those running uncapped fps - aren't you getting terrible tearing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friend-Referral Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 TrixxieTriss try using imgur.com to post the pic I would recommend a GTX 1060 as the video card for mid stream GPU with say a i5 6600K CPU Spoiler is about my system My system I get over 100fps on fleet with 166 other people at 2560 x 1440 on ultra settings (fullscreen window mode) See this pic sitting on 164fps for example - link but I do have what some would call a super computer i7 6700k + GTX1080 What about 2 i7-6700Ks with SLI? I want to do a lot of ultra/max setting gaming, but I also plan to do a lot of streaming, video filming and editing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeNaCe-NZ Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 What about 2 i7-6700Ks with SLI? I want to do a lot of ultra/max setting gaming, but I also plan to do a lot of streaming, video filming and editing. ... SLI doesn't run 2 CPUs together, that's GPUs ... Once you talk about running multiple CPUs you are talking server technology also and more likely to be looking at Xeons since that's what those boards are usually designed for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friend-Referral Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) ... SLI doesn't run 2 CPUs together, that's GPUs ... Once you talk about running multiple CPUs you are talking server technology also and more likely to be looking at Xeons since that's what those boards are usually designed for. That's what I meant I'm not bad with tech, but when it comes to PC terminology I'm not really the best. I need to learn. Would you recommend the i7-6700k for SWTOR? What about with the GPUs? Any 2 GPUs that will go hand in hand with that CPU? Edited January 8, 2017 by ColorfulCaiques Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tummiswtor Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) Its so funny when everybody (me too) say You need good CPU like end i5 or i7 and game need only old dual core in requirements. Same with GPU. Edited January 9, 2017 by tummiswtor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeNaCe-NZ Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 That's what I meant I'm not bad with tech, but when it comes to PC terminology I'm not really the best. I need to learn. Would you recommend the i7-6700k for SWTOR? What about with the GPUs? Any 2 GPUs that will go hand in hand with that CPU? If all you do is play this game then the i7 is overkill - money wasted really. Better off going for the i5-6600k. GPU wise ... what are your goals? Resolution etc. - again if just this game forget about SLI, no need for it and this game is known to have issues with SLI especially on newer hardware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friend-Referral Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) If all you do is play this game then the i7 is overkill - money wasted really. Better off going for the i5-6600k. GPU wise ... what are your goals? Resolution etc. - again if just this game forget about SLI, no need for it and this game is known to have issues with SLI especially on newer hardware. Can't you just disable SLI for games like this, or is it not as simple as that? I get what you're saying but I'd really love the convenience and overall bragging rights. I want to play this game at ultra, but all of this won't be for this game alone. I want to play other current gen games at max settings and I will be also using this rig as a cinematography rig. I'm gonna be streaming, making videos and eventually move on to heavy video editing. I'd like 2 144hz monitors if that helps. I'll have around $3000 for my budget and this is gonna be going towards my career to try to make a living out of making gaming movies, cosplay videos and by streaming. I hope $3k would be enough for everything, not including peripherals. I figure I'd post this now because I'm all new to this. I've had a crappy laptop for a very long time that broke down quite some time ago. It's time to upgrade and try to get my eventual career moving. Edited January 8, 2017 by ColorfulCaiques Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwenBrooks Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Another question for you and those running uncapped fps - aren't you getting terrible tearing? None that I see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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