BacaWicket Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 OK i have a few theories i will explain each of them: Theory 1: the republic defeats the empire Evidence for: .we don't see the sith empire in any books or novels which take place after the SWTOR period nor do we see any purebloods. .Obi wan said, "For over a thousand generations, the jedi knights were the guardians of peace and justice of the old republic" implying that the republic never fell before palp. Evidence against: .Palpatine said "Once more the sith will rule the galaxy" suggesting that at one point in time the sith ruled the galaxy. .Only 20 people (now its 21 because ahsoka left the order after she got framed) in the history of the jedi order have left it. the jedi order by the time swtor happens, is like 20,000 years old. dont you find that a bit suspicious. It seems more likely that no less than 100 have left the order and that the sith empire destroyed pretty much destroyed the jedi order. Theory 2: the empire defeats the republic, rules for some time, and is overthrown by a rebel alliance Evidence for: .palp said "once more the sith will rule the galaxy".there are many striking similarities between the galactic empire and the sith empire over 3 millenia ago. 1st of all, the harrower dreadnaught looks similar to the imperial star destroyer 2nd of all the starfighters used by the sith empire are similar to the TIE fighters. Lastly, the eclipse, the conqueror, and the sovereign might have been based off of similar superweapons by the sith empire which would have been more difficult if they didn't conquer the galaxy Evidence against:.what happened to the purebloods? If they didnt get wiped out by the pubs then what happened to them?.we hear no mention of the sith empire supposedly conquering the jedi beforethe galactic empire Theory 3: the sith empire find out about the emperor's true plan and attempt to evacuate themselves, the voss, some of the gree, and at least 2 of each race. To do this, they build an ark built for intergalactic travel. The republic eventually stops the emperor but not before the empire makes the long exodus for a new home Evidence for:.it certainly explains why there are no purebloods left. They all evacuated the galaxy.it also explains why we don't see any voss in any future novels to come.we don't hear of any mention whatsoever of the hypergate on asation so maybe all the gree who knew about it were on the ark Evidence against:.how did the empire build an ark so quickly? The only thing that could produce such a thing in enough time is the star forge which was destroyed..how did the empire prevent the republic from finding out if the ark is known to the public?.the reason sith haven't formed a truce with the repblic and instead focus on other galaxies is because the sith not only want the galaxy but also revenge on the jedi. Though one could suppose that the empire thought the jedi would be killed in the emperor's ritual so they left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benovide Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 This has actually been discussed and explained. IN the war between the Republic and the Sith Empire, they both nearly crippled in the war. Republic won the final war, and Sith Pureblood were all killed in the final battle. There are only 70 SIth Pureblood left in the galaxy during this time period. After the fall of the Sith Empire, the dark council was destroyed by the Jedi Order, they were all thought to be completely wiped out. Over a thousand years went between the fall of the Sith Empire and Episode 1. All sith empire technology fell into republic control, thus both the Republic absorbed their designs into their own. Given the superior combat designs, they gradually overtime incorporated the same engineering into Republic Veseels. such as those seen above Curuscant during the attack by seperatist forces. Koriban was destroyed in the final battle to destroy the Sith Empire, Sith used a super weapon after the last Sith Warrior died, it destroyed the planet with the invading republic forces. Overall, the fights and cold war between the Republic and Sith Empire, was over 19,000 years long. Niether side ever winning over another, until the Republic turned the Voss over to their side. The Gree were wiped out by the Sith 2 thousand years before this event. The Voss created technologies that advanced the power of battleship weapons, they also constructed hyperspace drives that kept ships out of detection until they were right on top of their destination. In a final notion to destroy the threat of the voss once and for all, the Sith dispatched a task force with the sole purpose of exterminating the last of the Voss, and stole plans for a focused energy beam. (later as technology advanced, it'd be used on the Death Star). The Republic was almost crippled to the point of complete breakdown and decay, it was the House of Organas funding, and the push by the Jedi Council to press the Republic to stay together and rebuild. Jump speed over 1,000 years in the future, Trade Federation is contacted by a mysterious figure, lead to attack Naboo. And well, you know the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benovide Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) If you want the full storyline behind hit, look online for George Lucas' blogs connecting KOTOR 1 and II all the way up to Episode 6, and afterwards towards Lukes Nephew who kills him. And the Third Empires creation. Edited October 19, 2013 by benovide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexDougherty Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 OK i have a few theories i will explain each of them: Theory 1: the republic defeats the empire Evidence for: .we don't see the sith empire in any books or novels which take place after the SWTOR period nor do we see any purebloods. .Obi wan said, "For over a thousand generations, the jedi knights were the guardians of peace and justice of the old republic" implying that the republic never fell before palp. Evidence against: .Palpatine said "Once more the sith will rule the galaxy" suggesting that at one point in time the sith ruled the galaxy. .Only 20 people (now its 21 because ahsoka left the order after she got framed) in the history of the jedi order have left it. the jedi order by the time swtor happens, is like 20,000 years old. dont you find that a bit suspicious. It seems more likely that no less than 100 have left the order and that the sith empire destroyed pretty much destroyed the jedi order. Um, the Sith currently rule most of the Galaxy, which is enough for the speech. And more than 20 have left, for a start they lost a large portion at the beginning of the order. They may only have recorded 20, but any student of history can point dozens of Sith who started out as Jedi, maybe if they don't turn to the darkside they allow them to leave but record them as living their lives as jedi. Theory 2: the empire defeats the republic, rules for some time, and is overthrown by a rebel alliance Evidence for: .palp said "once more the sith will rule the galaxy" .there are many striking similarities between the galactic empire and the sith empire over 3 millenia ago. 1st of all, the harrower dreadnaught looks similar to the imperial star destroyer 2nd of all the starfighters used by the sith empire are similar to the TIE fighters. Lastly, the eclipse, the conqueror, and the sovereign might have been based off of similar superweapons by the sith empire which would have been more difficult if they didn't conquer the galaxy Evidence against: .what happened to the purebloods? If they didnt get wiped out by the pubs then what happened to them? .we hear no mention of the sith empire supposedly conquering the jedi beforethe galactic empire Similarities are because people would say the Sith don't look Sithy enough otherwise, there is no mechanism for a Sith empire turning into a Republic that is workable, the Sith would massacre any population that even tried. Theory 3: the sith empire find out about the emperor's true plan and attempt to evacuate themselves, the voss, some of the gree, and at least 2 of each race. To do this, they build an ark built for intergalactic travel. The republic eventually stops the emperor but not before the empire makes the long exodus for a new home Evidence for: .it certainly explains why there are no purebloods left. They all evacuated the galaxy .it also explains why we don't see any voss in any future novels to come .we don't hear of any mention whatsoever of the hypergate on asation so maybe all the gree who knew about it were on the ark Evidence against: .how did the empire build an ark so quickly? The only thing that could produce such a thing in enough time is the star forge which was destroyed. .how did the empire prevent the republic from finding out if the ark is known to the public? .the reason sith haven't formed a truce with the repblic and instead focus on other galaxies is because the sith not only want the galaxy but also revenge on the jedi. Though one could suppose that the empire thought the jedi would be killed in the emperor's ritual so they left The Voss are in the EU just not much, they exist, the gree are also mentioned. Maybe some Sith did this, but taking the Voss and Gree along, they have no reason to, and no reason for the Voss or Gree to go with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarMagus Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 This is as far as I can tell the best attempt by fans to put together a full time line of the Star Wars Universe. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_galactic_history The stuff in SWTOR happens around 3,653 BBY – 3,642 BBY. BBY = Before Battle of Yavin where the original Death Star is Destroyed. Just looking at that time line there are references from that point all the way until Palps destroys the Republic in favor of the Empire. So as far as fans have been able to tell, the Republic never "falls" until Episodes 1-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacaWicket Posted October 19, 2013 Author Share Posted October 19, 2013 This has actually been discussed and explained. The Voss created technologies that advanced the power of battleship weapons, they also constructed hyperspace drives that kept ships out of detection until they were right on top of their destination. t. the problem with that idea is that the voss aren't advanced enough to make that kind of technology. By halo standards they would be considered a tier6 or 7 civilization. One that doesn't really use machinery. By comparison, Earth is tier 4 cuz we're in the space age Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benovide Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Several thousand years after the timeline of this game they aren't advanced enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarMagus Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Several thousand years after the timeline of this game they aren't advanced enough? Keep in mind several thousand years after the timeline of this game... Blasters are still the same. Armor is still the same. Ships look hardly different at all. Light Sabers are still the same. Super Weapons still do about the same thing and are just as common/uncommon. 3600+ years later the entire galaxy has advanced pretty much not at all. Now think about Earth, and imagine if we were still using the same weapons/ships/tech as 1600 BC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTargaryan Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 My Theory: 1.The Dark Council hears the news about the Emporer being died and begin a Civil War with one another for total control. Darth Marr (the oldest member of on the Council) maintains order, but joins the front line again the Republic. 2. The Dark Council perfects a devise to harness the power of the sun, the same devise used in KOTORs Annihilation, (which is about the son of Bastila Shan tracking down a council member and passes the knowledge of the device the the Republic). 3. The Sith True Bloods don't get wiped out instead they become fall back into the dark ages and battle among themselves (because their is a Sith member on Palpatines high council if you haven't read the Crimson Empire about the surviving member of Palpatines guards. This indicates that the Sith Purebloods have indeed Survived but the Jedi and Republic Imprisoned the force sensitives and left the weaker ones on Korriban and the other Sith worlds. They are still alive in the Lost tribes of the Sith Which is set from the time of Naga Sadow to the New Republic. 4. The Voss ended up going into exile themselves like the Gree and remained Neutral through out the galaxy (similar to the Hutt Cartel. 5. Once the Sith Empire fell it went back to the repetition of the events prior the TOR where a Jedi would fall to the dark side and cause a war leading up to the events of the battle of Russan when Darth Bane brought in the Rule Of Two. These are good possible outcomes that could have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacaWicket Posted October 20, 2013 Author Share Posted October 20, 2013 Keep in mind several thousand years after the timeline of this game... Blasters are still the same. Armor is still the same. Ships look hardly different at all. Light Sabers are still the same. Super Weapons still do about the same thing and are just as common/uncommon. 3600+ years later the entire galaxy has advanced pretty much not at all. Now think about Earth, and imagine if we were still using the same weapons/ships/tech as 1600 BC. well you got to remember that in the ancient times (4,000 BC-1000 AD) humanity hasn't advanced much even though it was a really long time though in the medieval times (1000-1700) we advanced somewhat in that period. It wasn't until the industrial revolution when we were quickly advancing in technology and you know the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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