Wolfninjajedi Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 (edited) Perhaps you are not familiar with the SWTOR Encyclopedia, but it provides extensive information on the capabilities of Sith Warriors. If this is a case of simple lack of information, then it is again flawed logic. Right...it is. The SW don't have information that makes them all powerful, they are just good enough to make some fighting happen. Edited September 9, 2013 by Wolfninjajedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 I'll just leave these here... (note Aurbere how Plo Koon AND Kit Fisto where subdued by him until he got shot, and even then they had to run away.) You'd think I remembered that, considering it's Plo Koon and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarSquirrel Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 You'd think I remembered that, considering it's Plo Koon and all. irk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 (edited) irk Irk?? Edit: Ohhh, I right know. Edited September 9, 2013 by Selenial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 irk Gonna have to reconsider. I mean, he did beat Plo Koon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Gonna have to reconsider. I mean, he did beat Plo Koon. Also Obi-Wan and Anakin.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Irk?? Edit: Ohhh, I right know. /Jabbalaugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Gonna have to reconsider. I mean, he did beat Plo Koon. Lawlz. Calm it down buddy, Plo Koon made the mistake of chopping his arms off, the Warriors would probably know exactly how to kill him and have the tools from Malgus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted September 9, 2013 Author Share Posted September 9, 2013 No R2 wouldn't be able to defeat them. They are on a lower tier compared to actual characters....unless you think some random nameless SW would be able to beat Mace Windu, Dooku, Obi-Wan, Anakin or Luke.And this is the point at which we open our eyes and disregard this rubbish about 'tiers' and 'categories' and instead consider a little thing called EVIDENCE. Which funnily enough is quite important. Sith warriors are highly trained combat specialists, yet in the end they are Sith who do not possess the skill to ascend to the rank of Lord or Darth. They simply are not powerful enough to contend with the likes of Malgus and other Sith Lords. However with the evidence we have at hand it is clear that the likes of Windu, Dooku, Kenobi, Anakin and Luke have the skills to challenge if not in some cases defeat Sith of Malgus' calibre. And therefore it stands to reason that Sith Warriors, of lesser skill, would simply not be able to match their skills. As you can see all designations are grounded in reason and fact. There are reasons why some characters are named and others are not, because often only the powerful are worth talking about. However if we then decide that because of this, we can simply judge all characters by whether they are named or not, we fall into a pit of fallacy and illogicality. Disregarding evidence on the basis of our own flawed methodology. Which has caused you to misguidedly believe that a Sith Warrior is no match for the likes of Durge. Yet EVIDENCE suggests that a handful would cause him some trouble. These are the facts, deal with them. Don't disregard them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Also Obi-Wan and Anakin.. That too. You'd think I would remember this stuff. I'm really off my game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 And this is the point at which we open our eyes and disregard this rubbish about 'tiers' and 'categories' and instead consider a little thing called EVIDENCE. Which funnily enough is quite important. Sith warriors are highly trained combat specialists, yet in the end they are Sith who do not possess the skill to ascend to the rank of Lord or Darth. They simply are not powerful enough to contend with the likes of Malgus and other Sith Lords. However with the evidence we have at hand it is clear that the likes of Windu, Dooku, Kenobi, Anakin and Luke have the skills to challenge if not in some cases defeat Sith of Malgus' calibre. And therefore it stands to reason that Sith Warriors, of lesser skill, would simply not be able to match their skills. As you can see all designations are grounded in reason and fact. There are reasons why some characters are named and others are not, because often only the powerful are worth talking about. However if we then decide that because of this, we can simply judge all characters by whether they are named or not, we fall into a pit of fallacy and illogicality. Disregarding evidence on the basis of our own flawed methodology. Which has caused you to misguidedly believe that a Sith Warrior is no match for the likes of Durge. Yet EVIDENCE suggests that a handful would cause him some trouble. These are the facts, deal with them. Don't disregard them. FINALLY Beni....evidence is the key here, you get it. What I have been trying to get across the whole time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Lawlz. Calm it down buddy, Plo Koon made the mistake of chopping his arms off, the Warriors would probably know exactly how to kill him and have the tools from Malgus... They kinda have to chop Durge up to kill him, don't they? I'm really off my game. I almost posted 'they kinda have to shop Durge up' Lolz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 That too. You'd think I would remember this stuff. I'm really off my game. "You have failed me, completely and Utterly. To have Tunewalker brought low by such a Failure there is No, victory in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren-Stride Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Anyone else notice how the representatives for the two factions being debated in this thread haven't posted in like the last ten pages? Beni, could you stop arguing a largely irrelevant point and do the scoring instead, pleeeeeease? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 They kinda have to chop Durge up to kill him, don't they? I'm really off my game. I almost posted 'they kinda have to shop Durge up' Lolz Burning wounds is the Key, a well timed chop followed by a Incendiary Grenade.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Anyone else notice how the representatives for the two factions being debated in this thread haven't posted in like the last ten pages? Beni, could you stop arguing a largely irrelevant point and do the scoring instead, pleeeeeease? I don't even know why we're arguing about Durge, IMO he won't defect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted September 9, 2013 Author Share Posted September 9, 2013 FINALLY Beni....evidence is the key here, you get it. What I have been trying to get across the whole time.Lol Wolf, then perhaps you should start using it. Because so far the only argument you've being using concerning Durge vs Sith Warriors is "they are cannon fodder" (they are not) "we don't have information on them" (we do.) This is not constructive debate, at all. Stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted September 9, 2013 Author Share Posted September 9, 2013 Anyone else notice how the representatives for the two factions being debated in this thread haven't posted in like the last ten pages? Beni, could you stop arguing a largely irrelevant point and do the scoring instead, pleeeeeease? Its already done my lady, as is the scenario. As soon as this babbling dies down I plan on posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 (edited) Its already done my lady, as is the scenario. As soon as this babbling dies down I plan on posting. EVERYONE SHUT THE *Insert 5 minutes of beeps here* UP. Post soon Beni, So i may sleep. Edited September 9, 2013 by Selenial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren-Stride Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Its already done my lady, as is the scenario. As soon as this babbling dies down I plan on posting. All of you. Quiet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 (edited) Lol Wolf, then perhaps you should start using it. Because so far the only argument you've being using concerning Durge vs Sith Warriors is "they are cannon fodder" (they are not) "we don't have information on them" (we do.) This is not constructive debate, at all. Stop. Compared to Durge? Yes they are cannon fodder, because Durge has already beaten those who have feats(namely Anakin/Obi-Wan and so forth). It's not like I haven't posted evidence in this thread either for Durge anyway..so it's there. When I mean cannon fodder, I am meaning they are outclassed by Durge because SW haven't shown anything that they could take on someone like him. Sorry for the confusion of that, I am using CV jargin. Edited September 9, 2013 by Wolfninjajedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted September 9, 2013 Author Share Posted September 9, 2013 Compared to Durge? Yes they are cannon fodder, because Durge has already beaten those who have feats(namely Anakin/Obi-Wan and so forth). It's not like I haven't posted evidence in this thread either for Durge anyway..so it's there. When I mean cannon fodder, I am meaning they are outclassed by Durge because SW haven't shown anything that they could take on someone like him./sigh. Clearly their is no separating you from your use of the word cannon fodder, so I won't bother. I'd just point out that it will not be counted as a valid argument now or in the future. Anyway, let's get on with the results shall we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 /sigh. Clearly their is no separating you from your use of the word cannon fodder, so I won't bother. I'd just point out that it will not be counted as a valid argument now or in the future. Anyway, let's get on with the results shall we? Fine then outclassed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 /sigh. Clearly their is no separating you from your use of the word cannon fodder, so I won't bother. I'd just point out that it will not be counted as a valid argument now or in the future. Anyway, let's get on with the results shall we? YES Mother of God yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Its already done my lady, as is the scenario. As soon as this babbling dies down I plan on posting. Seriously? You've been sitting on this egg for how long now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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