Ottoattack Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 (edited) To avoid subjectivity I am pulling information from http://www.torparse.com on bosses in S&V, TFB and Golden Fury for 8HM and 16 HM. I noted how many PT/Vanguards showed up in the list and their position in the fight: Scum and Villainy: Dash'roode 8HM: Number of times PT/Vanguard showed up on the top 10 parses: 1 Position: 9 16HM: Number of times PT/Vanguard showed up on the top 10 parses: 0 Position: N/A Titan 6 8HM: Number of times PT/Vanguard showed up on the top 10 parses: 0 Position: N/A 16HM: Number of times PT/Vanguard showed up on the top 10 parses: 0 Position: N/A Thrasher 8HM: Number of times PT/Vanguard showed up on the top 10 parses: 0 Position: N/A 16HM: Number of times PT/Vanguard showed up on the top 10 parses: 0 Position: N/A Operations Chief 8HM: Number of times PT/Vanguard showed up on the top 10 parses: 0 Position: N/A 16HM: Number of times PT/Vanguard showed up on the top 10 parses: 0 Position: N/A Olok the Shadow 8HM: Number of times PT/Vanguard showed up on the top 10 parses: 0 Position: N/A 16HM: Number of times PT/Vanguard showed up on the top 10 parses: 0 Position: N/A Cartel Warlords 8HM: Number of times PT/Vanguard showed up on the top 10 parses: 0 Position: N/A 16HM: Number of times PT/Vanguard showed up on the top 10 parses: 0 Position: N/A Dread Master Styrak 8HM: Number of times PT/Vanguard showed up on the top 10 parses: 0 Position: N/A 16HM: Number of times PT/Vanguard showed up on the top 10 parses: 0 Position: N/A Terror From Beyond The Writhing Horror 8HM: Number of times PT/Vanguard showed up on the top 10 parses: 0 Position: N/A 16HM: Number of times PT/Vanguard showed up on the top 10 parses: 1 Position: 8 Terror From Beyond - Ciphas, Heirad, & Kel'sara 8HM: Number of times PT/Vanguard showed up on the top 10 parses: 0 Position: N/A 16HM: Number of times PT/Vanguard showed up on the top 10 parses: 0 Position: N/A Operator IX 8HM: Number of times PT/Vanguard showed up on the top 10 parses: 0 Position: N/A 16HM: Number of times PT/Vanguard showed up on the top 10 parses: 1 Position: 10 Kephess the Undying 8HM: Number of times PT/Vanguard showed up on the top 10 parses: 0 Position: N/A 16HM: Number of times PT/Vanguard showed up on the top 10 parses: 1 Position: 6 The Terror From Beyond Number of times PT/Vanguard showed up on the top 10 parses: 0 Position: N/A 16HM: Number of times PT/Vanguard showed up on the top 10 parses: 0 Position: N/A Golden Fury Number of times PT/Vanguard showed up on the top 10 parses: 0 Position: N/A 16HM: Number of times PT/Vanguard showed up on the top 10 parses: 0 Position: N/A On 13 boss fights on HM, PT/vanguard showed only on 4 instances, with positions of 6,8,9 and 10. Never top 5. Draw whatever conclusions you like. Note the data was pulled from torparse on 6/7/13. Edited June 7, 2013 by Ottoattack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillLongstick Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 I am very much convinced that Powertechs are lagging in comparison to all the other DPS classes (including Sins, who gain a lot more from an armor debuff and execute talents in a raid). However, looking at the top 10 parses for each fight has a problem in only showing what classes are OP or performing very well. I went through all the 8/16 man HM leaderboards and tallied the top 10 parses by class. Here's what I have: Format: HM S&V -- HM TFB -- HM GF == Total Sniper: 89 -- 43 -- 3 == 135 Marauder: 17 -- 17 -- 14 == 48 Operative: 11 -- 18 -- 1 ==30 Merc: 11 -- 5 -- 0 == 16 Sorc: 4 -- 11 -- 0 == 15 Jugg: 5 -- 2 -- 1 == 8 Sin: 2 -- 1 -- 1 == 4 PT: 1 -- 3 -- 0 == 4 Total: 140 -- 100 -- 20 == 260 There's something to looking at the lower end, but you can only really draw conclusions from the higher end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hizoka Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 I am very much convinced that Powertechs are lagging in comparison to all the other DPS classes (including Sins, who gain a lot more from an armor debuff and execute talents in a raid). However, looking at the top 10 parses for each fight has a problem in only showing what classes are OP or performing very well. I went through all the 8/16 man HM leaderboards and tallied the top 10 parses by class. Here's what I have: Format: HM S&V -- HM TFB -- HM GF == Total Sniper: 89 -- 43 -- 3 == 135 Marauder: 17 -- 17 -- 14 == 48 Operative: 11 -- 18 -- 1 ==30 Merc: 11 -- 5 -- 0 == 16 Sorc: 4 -- 11 -- 0 == 15 Jugg: 5 -- 2 -- 1 == 8 Sin: 2 -- 1 -- 1 == 4 PT: 1 -- 3 -- 0 == 4 Total: 140 -- 100 -- 20 == 260 There's something to looking at the lower end, but you can only really draw conclusions from the higher end. you did not discount the partial parses. You simply grabbed the first 10 without looking at the ones that are not complete fights. So your data proves nothing except you are bad at collecting correct data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardonyyx Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 I'm pretty sure hybrid refers to a spec going up two different trees, not the ability to be a healer or dps. At least on the forums it is anyway. I don't think anyone has ever used that logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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