Styxx Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Because people whine about wanting to be special. It never gets old to see people play dress-up for SOMEONE ELSE and not for whatever look THEY want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phearz Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 shouldnt we rather post this in the suggestion-box ? dunno we have still no response at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styxx Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) shouldnt we rather post this in the suggestion-box ? dunno we have still no response at all... What other response you need, on top of Bioware removing armor from the game? Isn`t it clear that there is a conscious decision behind it? Logically and from observing the past, it is clear they are selling almost identical old or repainted armors, on top of new armors with new mods. It is either because they are THAT bad and they need to recycle old sets, or they want to retire bad designs. Either way, it IS a conscious decision. Edited April 4, 2014 by Styxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phearz Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) since they dont remove the armors by accident, it should be clear there is a conscious decision behind it. but they've been removing armors since 1.2 and long before f2p was an option. sure, they already might have been considering to bring the cartel market or smth similar or they might even knew SWTOR is going to be f2p soon after release but i doubt the main reason removing skins was ever to bring them back in the CM in order to make profit. lets take the old battlemaster gear. the reason they added crafting recipes for it was obviously people can put augments into their BM shells. i doubt the reason for removing BM was ever to add it into the CM in the future. 2.7 is almost online and we know the current pvp armor for example is going to be removed either. imho the "conscious decision" is just a matter of biowares gamedesign to keep the game kinda fresh and give people a reason to continue grinding. Edited April 5, 2014 by Phearz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissbob Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 imho the "conscious decision" is just a matter of biowares gamedesign to keep the game kinda fresh and give people a reason to continue grinding. I totally understand why they remove armor from the grinding process, but that's not what we're talking about. The question is why do they then also remove the armor designs from the game, and not keep them in the game in the form of empty shells, schematics of empty shells, or even Cartel items or the other options people have proposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phearz Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 thats why i suggested to post this into the suggestions box or the CM suggestions box. dunno if they read this thread, or even the numerous other threads about this topic, but a response from one of the devs would be much appreciated. i mean - if they're like "guys, its against our philosophy to bring back removed armors " - i'd know that i have to deal with it and would stop hoping u know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissbob Posted April 6, 2014 Author Share Posted April 6, 2014 thats why i suggested to post this into the suggestions box or the CM suggestions box. dunno if they read this thread, or even the numerous other threads about this topic, but a response from one of the devs would be much appreciated. i mean - if they're like "guys, its against our philosophy to bring back removed armors " - i'd know that i have to deal with it and would stop hoping u know Yeah, the reason I don't want it to be in the suggestions box is because there is very little traffic there, both Dev traffic and normal traffic. In General Discussion, where more players read/reply, this thread will get more traffic/responses then it would in the suggestion box, and more traffic and replies increases the chance of a Bioware response. And the fact that, although there are several suggestions from people within the thread, the actual subject/title of the thread isn't an actual suggestion, just a question. However, I'm guessing at this point there won't be a response, because this thread has been here for over a year, and if they are going to ever see this thread they should've already seen it, and if they didn't reply then, they probably won't reply in the future. And the "It's against our philosophy" answer that you provided apparently is their actual answer, since they mostly aren't back in the game. However, I would like to know why that is their answer, (hence the thread title) because to me, it doesn't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segast Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Sign me up for the support of keeping or to see a return of old gear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dPuff Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 They should definitely bring those back as adaptive armor sets or w/e... Elitism or no, it's always nice to have more gear variety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phearz Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 (edited) And the "It's against our philosophy" answer that you provided apparently is their actual answer, since they mostly aren't back in the game. However, I would like to know why that is their answer, (hence the thread title) because to me, it doesn't make sense. i guess you're right but as long as none of the devs responses i still got some hope. i mean it's ridiculous. there is a huge playerbase which begs for brining back those skins/shells and is willing to pay for it. additionally those skins has already been made! i mean - it's not like we want to have multiple skins from any certain movie or book nor do we want anyone to design anything new. those armors exist! they should just give players the possibility to get them in any way, what ever it might be. reputation, legacy, pvp, pve, cartel market, who cares. at least we can get it someday. please Edited April 6, 2014 by Phearz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeblesTV Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Removing content is always a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phearz Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 /bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasanth Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I would think the main reason for removing them is to make room for newer items. For every piece of armor in the game, they have to have a copy of it for every race that can use it, as well as both male and female. That takes up a lot of room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissbob Posted April 23, 2014 Author Share Posted April 23, 2014 I would think the main reason for removing them is to make room for newer items. For every piece of armor in the game, they have to have a copy of it for every race that can use it, as well as both male and female. That takes up a lot of room. What do you mean, "room"? You don't see old content get ripped out of the game when new content is added in most other aspects of the game. When a new Warzone comes out, an old one doesn't leave. When a new Operation is added, an old one isn't taken out. When a new planet is added, an old one isn't taken out. Etc. Etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zin-Zin Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Because then people who can pull it out an wear it later can both have unique look and prove they played the game way back when. That's what the Founder title is for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlrikFassbauer Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 That's what the Founder title is for. I want an "Founder" title for my offline RPGs as well ! Being able to show it within my offline RPGs as well ! Well, nowadays, we have "Kickstarter" for that ... "Kickstarter" games are the new Collector's Editions ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phearz Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 /bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loc_n_lol Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 (edited) Looks like a batch of Tionese and Battlemaster sets are making their comeback in future cartel market packs. Tionese agent, smuggler, warrior & BH Battlemaster knight, sorcerer & trooper Edited May 2, 2014 by Loc_n_lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaricSevGirl Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 (edited) I want the white battlemaster gear for JC from when the game came out (white cape with feathers). I PvP'd until I could get it and lost my account. My shadow wants that armor again. I want that armor again. Edited May 2, 2014 by AlaricSevGirl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissbob Posted May 3, 2014 Author Share Posted May 3, 2014 (edited) Looks like a batch of Tionese and Battlemaster sets are making their comeback in future cartel market packs. Tionese agent, smuggler, warrior & BH Battlemaster knight, sorcerer & trooper Really? Where'd you learn this? Edited May 3, 2014 by Swissbob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styxx Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Really? Where'd you learn this? You can see for yourself. One of the Exposed sets is the old Marauder PvP gear - the red one, with hood up, midriff naked and big spikes on shoulders. Aha - found it! http://tor-fashion.com/exposed-extrovert/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissbob Posted May 3, 2014 Author Share Posted May 3, 2014 You can see for yourself. One of the Exposed sets is the old Marauder PvP gear - the red one, with hood up, midriff naked and big spikes on shoulders. Aha - found it! http://tor-fashion.com/exposed-extrovert/ Oh well yeah, I knew that one piece existed. That doesn't answer for the other 6 full sets he mentioned. And as for the Exposed set, while I was interested in it's, it's hardly a substitute. I don't want my Marauder to have his midriff showing... I mean.... I guess it's better than nothing.... but we're really just grabbing at the scraps at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terin Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Yeah, they absolutely need to make *EVERY* armor and weapon designs in the entire game accessible, through some means. For example, I *LOVE* the Inquisitor's Battlemaster armor, but they removed the matching Belt, which really made the set look awesome (and can players even craft that gear anymore, or were the plans removed, too?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loc_n_lol Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Really? Where'd you learn this? Some pictures from the collections interface were datamined and posted on reddit. It was also posted here but the links were removed (except... not, if you hurry ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthAeonis Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 they remove it for exclusivity for ppl who were here since day 1 and I personally think it should stay that way. give the ppl who have always supported the game some love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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