_DaGreat Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Eliminator or supercommando best for DPS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATango Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 I thought Supercommando was for tanks or IF spec and Eliminator is for Commando dps. Combat Tech? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethroin Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 If you are Assault spec, then the best set for you is Eliminator no question. All other spec benefit more from Combat Tech Bonuses to Stock Strike and AE Stun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterbason Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 (edited) imo eliminator set was designed for commandos. i'm using combat tech for assalt and IF build. Edited May 25, 2012 by masterbason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethroin Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Assault spec revolves around combining back to back HIB procs into an effective and deadly burst rotation. Eliminator's 4pc bonus is a 15% effectiveness increase to HIB. You do miss out on having a 2pc bonus, but 15% crit rate increase on your most damaging ability is not worth losing for .5 more seconds on your AE stun and 15% crit rate on SS (your 3rd highest damage ability, used less often than HIB). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_DaGreat Posted May 25, 2012 Author Share Posted May 25, 2012 Thanks for the input. I suspected eliminator was the way to go but just wanted to confirm it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterbason Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 (edited) vanguard always need to get in close range to finish his job, so... other bonus than just HiB is better imo. SS also has bether chance to reset HiB, 60% against 45% IP. also I'm not just limited to use just assalt tree with combat tech set, I can use( if I want ) all trees. using combat tech set I can hit with HiB 3.5k~4.5k still... so imo combat tech is better cuz that. Edited May 25, 2012 by masterbason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hethroin Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 vanguard always need to get in close range to finish his job, so... other bonus than just HiB is better imo. Math is better than your opinion. A typical Assault rotation contains double (200% MORE) High Impact Bolts than it does Stock Strikes. High Impact Bolt has a 30% crit bonus from your spec, and hits harder than Stock Strike. SS also has bether chance to reset HiB, 60% against 45% IP. Irrelevant. You would use stock strike whenever possible to reset HIB, even if you were wearing quest greens from Alderaan. also I'm not just limited to use just assalt tree with combat tech set, I can use( if I want ) all trees. However, when speced for assault, you perform better using the 4pc Eliminator bonus. It's mathematically proven. using combat tech set I can hit with HiB 3.5k~4.5k still... This is true, you can still get the same top end numbers on your hits, but the 4pc Eliminator gives you a +15% better chance per HIB to see those big numbers. so imo combat tech is better cuz that. Your opinion is based, I'm assuming, on the fact that you already have a Combat Tech set. So you are arguing that a Ford Focus is better than a BMW 500 based on the fact that you own a Focus and it gets you to work just fine. This is not a matter of opinion or personal preference: Eliminator 4pc is the best armor for an Assault spec Vanguard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterbason Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Math is better than your opinion. A typical Assault rotation contains double (200% MORE) High Impact Bolts than it does Stock Strikes. High Impact Bolt has a 30% crit bonus from your spec, and hits harder than Stock Strike. Irrelevant. You would use stock strike whenever possible to reset HIB, even if you were wearing quest greens from Alderaan. However, when speced for assault, you perform better using the 4pc Eliminator bonus. It's mathematically proven. This is true, you can still get the same top end numbers on your hits, but the 4pc Eliminator gives you a +15% better chance per HIB to see those big numbers. Your opinion is based, I'm assuming, on the fact that you already have a Combat Tech set. So you are arguing that a Ford Focus is better than a BMW 500 based on the fact that you own a Focus and it gets you to work just fine. This is not a matter of opinion or personal preference: Eliminator 4pc is the best armor for an Assault spec Vanguard. I respect your opinion... just for you know... I have both BM sets and choose to go WR with combat tech... see ya.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATango Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Assault spec revolves around combining back to back HIB procs into an effective and deadly burst rotation. Eliminator's 4pc bonus is a 15% effectiveness increase to HIB. You do miss out on having a 2pc bonus, but 15% crit rate increase on your most damaging ability is not worth losing for .5 more seconds on your AE stun and 15% crit rate on SS (your 3rd highest damage ability, used less often than HIB). Welllllll, when you sum it up like that, yea, i agree, eliminator would be the better bet. Pros outweigh the cons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CivicTiger Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Eliminator set WITHOUT A DOUBT. Like mentioned before, you use HIB a hell of a lot more. If you use the SS bonus then you're a noob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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