DeutschGamer Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Have you ever played games with established lore and multiple titles in that lore? Fluff is bended and sometimes broken to make way for new features which increase entertainment and replay value. Don't like it, stop playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmayshi Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 But can they look through a scope? Who needs a scope when the force will guide your muzzle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 (edited) Who needs a scope when the force will guide your muzzle? Then it ain't a miralukan sniper, it's a blind guy/gal totally bad a** head shotting you from 30-35 meters away while holding the gun with one hand XD (I vote that, I want a one handed shot from a miralukan sniper) Edited April 13, 2012 by Selenial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eujin Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Not sure where anyone got the idea that Chiss force users are non-existent. From what I remember, The Chiss Ascendancy is all about showing them to be the superior race without any outside help, which is why they actually volunteered to join the empire, and actually forced the emperor to accept their terms and allow themselves to be independant. That being said, apparently force use is frowned upon, as it makes them look depending on something other than themselves. It is not unheard of. There are in fact 2 known, canon, Chiss Force users. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Chiss Dark Acolyte and CIS general Sev'rance Tann, and Jedi Padawan Nuru Kungurama. So there you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeutschGamer Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Then it ain't a miralukan sniper, it's a blind guy/gal totally bad a** head shotting you from 30-35 meters away while holding the gun with one hand XD (I vote that, I want a one handed shot from a miralukan sniper) Miralukans aren't blind, they all see through the force. Some become Jedi, others don't but they all see in basically the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RemyDMartin Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Sorry for the late respond O-o was to lazy to log into the forums...but i gave my 2 cents for the matter XD Well, you certainly were not over charging. One word: Deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Miralukans aren't blind, they all see through the force. Some become Jedi, others don't but they all see in basically the same way. Ok, I meant that in a jokey way -_- I (most likely u did aswell) played koror two, I even had tslrcm so vissd tought me force sight, I know how they see and stuff XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongrul Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Hrmm......ya so....the lore.....why are you destroying it?.....it is known that the chiss are not force sensitive and i see no reason for a pureblood to be a good doer and join the republic and fight the empire...ya.......this is worse then a hutt jedi... this game is creating lore. just cause you dont like it doesnt mean its destroying it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Zone Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Not sure if it's been said yet, but the Chiss race is extremely reclusive compared to the others, with the exception of maybe Yoda's race. In fact, so far the only race to the best of my knowledge that George Lucas has declared NON-Force sensitive are the Wookiees. With the exception of the existing Wookiee Jedi, no more may become Force sensitive. So who's to say there aren't Chiss Jedi out there? In fact, some Chiss have been Jedi in the ExU novels, so it isn't against lore. In fact, there have even been Sith Je'Daii, and so far Lucas hasn't retconned it. Yes, it seems that before the Great Schism, there were many different races in the Je'Daii Order. One Order. Using both sides of the Force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarrickusBA Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Miralukans aren't blind, they all see through the force. Some become Jedi, others don't but they all see in basically the same way. Sorry, they are blind, they have no eyes, therefore are blind, some bats are blind, just because they use sonar to tell what's about them doesn't counter the fact they can't physically see, same with the Miralukans. Back to topic, Generally Purebloods wouldn't defect, they are brought up to be proud of their superiority, by the time they are of age to care about politics and the such, it would be hammered into there brains that the empire is right and they are superior to everyone else, there may be the occasional one who disagrees, but they usually wouldn't because if i remember correctly they are all force sensitive and are all already training to be sith at a very young age, so it's highly unlikely they would defect, but their might be the odd one that is insane, forfeiting their superiority and stature, and going to the republic, but it's highly highly unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmayshi Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 ...but they usually wouldn't because if i remember correctly they are all force sensitive and are all already training to be sith at a very young age, so it's highly unlikely they would defect, but their might be the odd one that is insane, forfeiting their superiority and stature, and going to the republic, but it's highly highly unlikely. They aren't all force sensitive, there is actually a non force sensitive NPC pureblood(IE protrusions red markings, eyes the whole works.) It's a rarity for them to not be force sensitive but it does happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Zone Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Sorry, they are blind, they have no eyes, therefore are blind, some bats are blind, just because they use sonar to tell what's about them doesn't counter the fact they can't physically see, same with the Miralukans. Back to topic, Generally Purebloods wouldn't defect, they are brought up to be proud of their superiority, by the time they are of age to care about politics and the such, it would be hammered into there brains that the empire is right and they are superior to everyone else, there may be the occasional one who disagrees, but they usually wouldn't because if i remember correctly they are all force sensitive and are all already training to be sith at a very young age, so it's highly unlikely they would defect, but their might be the odd one that is insane, forfeiting their superiority and stature, and going to the republic, but it's highly highly unlikely. Pardon me while I fill your post full of holes. The Miraluka see through The Force. Not sonar. They see as well, if not better than humans do. And just because they are ALL Force sensitive to a degree, not all of them become Jedi. Some ONLY have the ability of Force Sight. This is Lore and Canon. Also, some Purebloods are born Force blind. They do not use the Force. Granted, they are very rare, but it does happen. They have been relegated to menial duties, and some are even sold into slavery. Some, if they have other abilities/skills, are placed in the Imperial military. In fact, the Knight on Belsavis runs into two NON-Force using Purebloods. Both Imperial military. As for Purebloods defecting... Lord Praven. 'Nuff said. Purebloods defecting happens very rarely, but it still happens. And not as many Miraluka are Jedi as you may think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarrickusBA Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 They aren't all force sensitive, there is actually a non force sensitive NPC pureblood(IE protrusions red markings, eyes the whole works.) It's a rarity for them to not be force sensitive but it does happen. sorry, i must of misread that somewhere then >.< Originally Posted by MarrickusBA Sorry, they are blind, they have no eyes, therefore are blind, some bats are blind, just because they use sonar to tell what's about them doesn't counter the fact they can't physically see, same with the Miralukans. Back to topic, Generally Purebloods wouldn't defect, they are brought up to be proud of their superiority, by the time they are of age to care about politics and the such, it would be hammered into there brains that the empire is right and they are superior to everyone else, there may be the occasional one who disagrees, but they usually wouldn't because if i remember correctly they are all force sensitive and are all already training to be sith at a very young age, so it's highly unlikely they would defect, but their might be the odd one that is insane, forfeiting their superiority and stature, and going to the republic, but it's highly highly unlikely. Pardon me while I fill your post full of holes. The Miraluka see through The Force. Not sonar. They see as well, if not better than humans do. And just because they are ALL Force sensitive to a degree, not all of them become Jedi. Some ONLY have the ability of Force Sight. This is Lore and Canon. Also, some Purebloods are born Force blind. They do not use the Force. Granted, they are very rare, but it does happen. They have been relegated to menial duties, and some are even sold into slavery. Some, if they have other abilities/skills, are placed in the Imperial military. In fact, the Knight on Belsavis runs into two NON-Force using Purebloods. Both Imperial military. As for Purebloods defecting... Lord Praven. 'Nuff said. Purebloods defecting happens very rarely, but it still happens. And not as many Miraluka are Jedi as you may think. i never said they were using sonar, i just compared it to bats and sonar to imply using the force to see, isn't physically seeing, therefore they are blind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Zone Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 sorry, i must of misread that somewhere then >.< i never said they were using sonar, i just compared it to bats and sonar to imply using the force to see, isn't physically seeing, therefore they are blind Just because the Miraluka lack eyes does not make them blind. Very narrow view you have there. Also, bats are not technically blind. They CAN see, but choose to use their sonar as guidance. Even then, their sonar is a form of vision as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediXMan Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 I don't mind Chiss Force sensitives. Hey, I wanted to be a Chiss Inquisitor. But I still think the idea of Sith Jedi is really stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeutschGamer Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 I don't mind Chiss Force sensitives. Hey, I wanted to be a Chiss Inquisitor. But I still think the idea of Sith Jedi is really stupid. Sith Jedi is a contradiction of terms, Pureblood sounds much better. Just because you think its stupid and can't think of a proper reason to play one, doesn't mean someone else can't. The only reason people will be interested in playing a rare species for a specific class is for either uniqueness or roleplaying. A banished Sith raised by the Jedi, a defector Chiss joining the Republic. Bioware is giving these people their opportunity the chance to do this, and giving everyone bonus abilities from Legacy as well as a cool new feature to play around with. I'm thankful, as I want to have a Twi'lek SW eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Zone Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 a defector Chiss joining the Republic. Chiss can choose their own path. Quite a few join the Empire since the Empire and Ascendancy ARE allies. However, some choose to go their own way. If a few decide to either go independent as free traders or actually join the Republic military, there's nothing to say they can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeutschGamer Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Chiss can choose their own path. Quite a few join the Empire since the Empire and Ascendancy ARE allies. However, some choose to go their own way. If a few decide to either go independent as free traders or actually join the Republic military, there's nothing to say they can't. Still there is just as much chance of a Chiss already involved with the Empire defecting over. Both present RP possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Zone Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Still there is just as much chance of a Chiss already involved with the Empire defecting over. Both present RP possibilities. Well, the IA has a chance to sorta defect based on choices made at the end of Chapter 2 that are reflected at the end of Chapter 3. That's all I'm going to say, other than Kolovish is NOT who she seems!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscad Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 i see no reason for a pureblood to be a good doer and join the republic and fight the empire Lord Praven disagrees. He joined because his master had lied about the Republic and he was based upon honor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Zone Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 (edited) Lord Praven disagrees. He joined because his master had lied about the Republic and he was based upon honor. Yep! His passions are Integrity and Honor, and he states that his entire family is like that. They are Old School Sith. Edited April 13, 2012 by Captain_Zone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobsy Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 There's another factor at work here, which I don't think many people are considering: Aside from people unlocking races through vast amounts of wealth, most people are unlocking them by having a level 50 of that race. I think most people that level a character all the way up will be looking for their next character to be pretty different, and won't particularly want to be stuck with the exact same race a second time. I was on Ord Mantell with a new character yesterday straight after the patch hit, and you know how many characters with unlocked species I saw? One. Me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWidowmaker Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 i decided to make my Chiss Smuggler my Chiss IA's twin sister.... seems to be working out, cant see any reason why that couldnt happen Chiss are pretty fascinating, and they are probably my favorite race in the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lu_Bei Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Are you George Lucas? Because if so, I have a bone to pick with you about Howard the Duck. I can't believe he approved that timeline. The way I see it, its a game. More options to play the way you want? Great! It didn't really make sense that you could be a Sith Pure Blood slave (sorcerer) to begin with, did it? Don't want to make a Chiss Jedi? Don't. Or, well, its another empire that the Sith subjugated. Maybe some of the Chiss defected, like some did on Hoth? Maybe that Sith Pure Blood was captured by the Jedi and turned to their ways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgon Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Actually lore wise there have been a couple of Chiss force users. I think force sensitivity with them is just much more rare. This A redeemed Sith Pureblood occurs in the JK story so that knocks down that. Then there is the fact that the EU has multiple Chiss force users (I don't think they are rare, just that the ascendency just doesn't study or use the Force like Jedi of Dathomiri witches). Honestly, let rp-ers decide what they are doing with this. This is an excellent way to give us options but create a barrier of entry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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