Mytilus Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Giving us back our skill points because you realised you made a complete mess of balancing a class might be your idea of fair play but its not really any compensation at all. Firstly what about the money? Learning new skills is not cheap and if your level 50 this could cost around 500k. Secondly not everyone has 1 toon. I have 8 all above level 35 and over half of them are going to have to respec. This means learning new abilities and rotations for them or practically starting again. There is only one thing for certain that will come out of this kind of change and that is forums full of whines about how this class is op and that class has been uber nerfed, same old rubbish same old stories. Mean time im out of pocket to the sum of 3 million credits just because you think this was a good idea. Dont make a habit of doing this or atleast give ne some compensation to cover the cost of your mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qoojo Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 (edited) What are you talking about? Generally these things only involve redistributing your skill points, at no cost, and that's what is zeroed out. You still will have the skills you paid for, unless the skill was removed. If they added any new skills, which is rare, then you usually have to pay for those. Edited April 5, 2012 by Qoojo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Criptic Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Typically MMO's let you reroll points for free if they make changes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaMayhem Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 You aren't going to have to purchase any new skills. Calm down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilikaa Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 You aren't going to be re-buying your abilities. It's just like going to the respec vendor and resetting your points. I did that with my Shadow and I don't remember having to re-buy any abilities. I only had to reset my skill tree. I also have not heard anyone mention this on the PTS forum. If you know for a fact that you have to re-buy abilities then i would love to see the information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
System_TOR Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 (edited) Giving us back our skill points because you realised you made a complete mess of balancing a class might be your idea of fair play but its not really any compensation at all. Firstly what about the money? Learning new skills is not cheap and if your level 50 this could cost around 500k. Secondly not everyone has 1 toon. I have 8 all above level 35 and over half of them are going to have to respec. This means learning new abilities and rotations for them or practically starting again. There is only one thing for certain that will come out of this kind of change and that is forums full of whines about how this class is op and that class has been uber nerfed, same old rubbish same old stories. Mean time im out of pocket to the sum of 3 million credits just because you think this was a good idea. Dont make a habit of doing this or atleast give ne some compensation to cover the cost of your mistakes. Please explain to me how you are out of pocket? you get a free respect, you still have all the abilitys you had before, do you not understand the concept of a respec or what? Edited April 5, 2012 by System_TOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mytilus Posted April 5, 2012 Author Share Posted April 5, 2012 (edited) im just annoyed. Its a lot of work to reset and learn all the characters that are being changed and although skills may not cost as much as i have stated it will still cost and whatever it does cost will be 8 times more expensive for me and 8 times more work. Edited April 5, 2012 by Mytilus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
System_TOR Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 (edited) im just annoyed. Its a lot of work to reset and learn all the characters that are being changed and although skills may not cost as much as i have stated it will still cost and whatever it does cost will be 8 times more expensive for me. It will not cost you anything, what part of that do you not understand? Stop digging yourself deeper into that hole you put yourself in, and face the reality of what you are being told by the community. Edited April 5, 2012 by System_TOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansultares Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 (edited) Firstly what about the money? Learning new skills is not cheap and if your level 50 this could cost around 500k.¿Que? and whatever it does cost will be 8 times more expensive for me and 8 times more work.That's what you get for being a content locust, or so I've been told. Edited April 5, 2012 by Ansultares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneGaijin Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 FREE equals FREE you will simply redistribute your skill tree points, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mytilus Posted April 5, 2012 Author Share Posted April 5, 2012 It will not cost you anything, what part of that do you not understand? So you can honestly say that choosing an ability on your skill tree has absolutely no trainer upgrades as you level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinthinner Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 (edited) he is whining that he will have to respec a ton more after the free reset to see what works.... that is if I read the err...post correctly. it is called updates and balance... I take it that this is your first MMO... since this happens in them ALL. So you can honestly say that choosing an ability on your skill tree has absolutely no trainer upgrades as you level? and yes... that is what people say, or have you not leveled at all on your character and made a troll post? Edited April 5, 2012 by skinthinner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Criptic Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 im just annoyed. Its a lot of work to reset and learn all the characters that are being changed and although skills may not cost as much as i have stated it will still cost and whatever it does cost will be 8 times more expensive for me and 8 times more work. I got so high once I thought I was clear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansultares Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 (edited) So you can honestly say that choosing an ability on your skill tree has absolutely no trainer upgrades as you level?Yes. he is whining that he will have to respec a ton more after the free reset to see what works....Not even. Edited April 5, 2012 by Ansultares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
System_TOR Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 So you can honestly say that choosing an ability on your skill tree has absolutely no trainer upgrades as you level? Yes, skills in the tree are FREE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ_SAX_MAN Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 im just annoyed. Its a lot of work to reset and learn all the characters that are being changed and although skills may not cost as much as i have stated it will still cost and whatever it does cost will be 8 times more expensive for me and 8 times more work. lol, if you are talking about your talent trees, that doesn't cost anything to stick those points back in the slots. Besides if you know your class well which every player should, you should easily be able to put those points right where you want them. (and this is coming from a player new to SWTOR, it is not rocket science to spec and people seem to think it is) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansultares Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Yes, skills in the tree are FREE.It's more like they only offer one rank, which is freely provided by putting a point in that skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ_SAX_MAN Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 So you can honestly say that choosing an ability on your skill tree has absolutely no trainer upgrades as you level? If you get an ability solely from your talent tree, you don't have to pay for that from the trainer. only base abilities for your class and advanced class come from the trainer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
System_TOR Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 It's more like they only offer one rank, which is freely provided by putting a point in that skill. Like I said they are Free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansultares Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Is this thread over yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oPURT Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Giving us back our skill points because you realised you made a complete mess of balancing a class might be your idea of fair play but its not really any compensation at all. Firstly what about the money? Learning new skills is not cheap and if your level 50 this could cost around 500k. Secondly not everyone has 1 toon. I have 8 all above level 35 and over half of them are going to have to respec. This means learning new abilities and rotations for them or practically starting again. There is only one thing for certain that will come out of this kind of change and that is forums full of whines about how this class is op and that class has been uber nerfed, same old rubbish same old stories. Mean time im out of pocket to the sum of 3 million credits just because you think this was a good idea. Dont make a habit of doing this or atleast give ne some compensation to cover the cost of your mistakes. Seriously dude, get a life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterData Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 New to mmos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seriasx Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Typically MMO's let you reroll points for free if they make changes... And they typically dont reset the cost for doing so every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
System_TOR Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Is this thread over yet? I'm expecting it to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatB Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 As others have said. It's the skill tree (and associated points) that are being reset. Not the skills you learn/train from the skill trainer. AFAIK none of the skills from the trainer are being removed. (though there may be new ones added? It's unclear. JK apparently gets a new skill, but from what I understand it's a completely worthless (well, to me) threat dump, and it's unclear whether you have to train it, or if it will have levels, and how much it may cost. Don't think I've read of any new skills for my other chars) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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