Labradoraki Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) This is about snipers and their fail again GOOD OPPONENTS(cuz everyone can kill a noob that runs around like a chicken) Sniper vs marauder/jugg/assassin=They open 50% MORE delfect chance and anihilate us since we cant do any damage to them since even ROOTS get deflected and they break flashbang sniper vs sorcerer= sorcerer dots us to death and goes to los while we have on heals or cleanse to survive... Following them is pointless since by 75% chance it means we are going to die because behind that los there are more enemies or someone will help him... therefore killing the sorcerer is impossible sniper vs powertech= huge migitation therefore our damage is cut in half while he has elemental damage that bypasses the normal defense... Plus if he is a tank he gets shiled that reduces the damage of our sniper attacks EVEN MORE sniper vs tracer spammer=Only thing we can win due to ranged interrupt and cover ranged efense although...plus tracer spamers arent the best of players so it isnt rly a good match for balance... Sniper vs operative=Dead in the first few seconds since our melee defenses are 0 and he can dodge our stupid physical attacks and avoid heavy hitting blows like ambush and no, lethality is useless against opponents who can dispell.... Thank you bioware for creating yet another very balanced class because you have 0 pvp knowledge Edited February 21, 2012 by Labradoraki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggietheThird Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I do fine dude, what your build, and expertise lvl? im trying to help you before the trolls attack lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taranthule Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) Let me sum this up with a big good old cliché: L 2 P You can thank me later brah. edit: @ Reggie: damn you beat me to it :'( A guy posting stuff like: 'thnx for (insert random QQ) Bioware' is a troll on his own, thus deserves a good old fashioned troll response. Edited February 21, 2012 by Taranthule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggietheThird Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 haha, that they are....and now they are gonna shut this thread down VIVA LA REVOLUTION Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labradoraki Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 haha, that they are....and now they are gonna shut this thread down VIVA LA REVOLUTION SORRY I AM not the only thinking sniper here and i am sure more will see how rboken they are and why the yneed a huge buff especially against los Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noleader Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 SORRY I AM not the only thinking sniper here and i am sure more will see how rboken they are and why the yneed a huge buff especially against los You are not broken... out of all the classes in the game the only one I don't like to pick on is a Sniper. My IWIN of mindsnap (stop casts) is useless... I get knocked back and rooted... They kite me... or if I am going head to head with a good one they will just sit there behind cover and pluck me to death because I can not do anything at all (in melee range) to stop them from shooting me in the head... over and over again unless my stun is up and they have no resolve built. I have been in void star matchs before where 3 or 4 snipers lock down one side of the room from a whole team without issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patatt Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Looks like someone got home from the bar, pvp'd, and had something to say... Dewd. L2p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmana Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Isn't it nice to be able to not be interrupted and have that one do not disturb for 20 seconds move? Add about 50 roots, all of which are great in conjunction with orbital strike, as well as having a lot of moves that do a ****load of damage, and I'd say that either you suck or don't know what the hell you're doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somalin Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Add about 50 roots, all of which are great in conjunction with orbital strike All of my roots! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patatt Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Isn't it nice to be able to not be interrupted and have that one do not disturb for 20 seconds move? Add about 50 roots, all of which are great in conjunction with orbital strike, as well as having a lot of moves that do a ****load of damage, and I'd say that either you suck or don't know what the hell you're doing. Hi, my name is kmana and I like to exaggerate a lot on PvP forums. I'm all for mocking noobs who need to L2P their class, but FB lasts for 8 seconds (standard) and ends on damage, our 2 roots last for 2-5 and end on damage (one of which requires cover), and orbital strike *********** blows against anyone who actually knows what they're doing. But you're right. We do a ******** of damage. Aside from that, keep your awkwardly large trolly numbers off of my forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AetherMcLoud Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Just do like I did and ignore Labradoraki, he's just a forum troll. Does nothing but post "nerf this nerf that" threads all day long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmy_DB Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Snipers are the only class I have trouble with on my Guard... Can't jump to them due to cover, get rooted when trying to walk there then focused by all the ranged around. 50% block lasts 10secs and is on 3min cd - so the chance of it being up - and blocking the root is pretty low. Finally get into melee range (often half dead or more by then) and then the sniper's un-interruptable. He dps's me down faster than I can do it back to him - In Melee Range . Only really have a chance if (a. defensive cd is up and I get lucky and block the root - and b. Stuns/push are off-cd so I ca get him out of cover). Not to mention getting into melee range without a leap means that I'm both focus-starved (short of 3 from leap and 4 from free blade-storm), and don't get my temporary 20% incoming dmg reduction and immunity to cc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labradoraki Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 Snipers are the only class I have trouble with on my Guard... Can't jump to them due to cover, get rooted when trying to walk there then focused by all the ranged around. 50% block lasts 10secs and is on 3min cd - so the chance of it being up - and blocking the root is pretty low. Finally get into melee range (often half dead or more by then) and then the sniper's un-interruptable. He dps's me down faster than I can do it back to him - In Melee Range . Only really have a chance if (a. defensive cd is up and I get lucky and block the root - and b. Stuns/push are off-cd so I ca get him out of cover). Not to mention getting into melee range without a leap means that I'm both focus-starved (short of 3 from leap and 4 from free blade-storm), and don't get my temporary 20% incoming dmg reduction and immunity to cc. ye cuz 30 meters are a huge distance for a class that doesnt have a slow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SicNNasty Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Here I was thinking this class kicks poney arse! What you gonna flame me by telling me how I'll start the QQing once I reach the 50 bracket. Well nah, I'll probally do the same as my other 2 50s, just put them in the closet whilst yet another reaches 50 I hate this expression but learn to play, or at least practice and get better. From the sheer amount of Nerf this Nerf that nonesense the OP comes up with, I can't help but think this is a pretty poor player who want's to blame inbalance rather than practice practice practice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vales Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Snipers are the only class I have trouble with on my Guard... Can't jump to them due to cover, get rooted when trying to walk there then focused by all the ranged around. 50% block lasts 10secs and is on 3min cd - so the chance of it being up - and blocking the root is pretty low. Finally get into melee range (often half dead or more by then) and then the sniper's un-interruptable. He dps's me down faster than I can do it back to him - In Melee Range . Only really have a chance if (a. defensive cd is up and I get lucky and block the root - and b. Stuns/push are off-cd so I ca get him out of cover). Not to mention getting into melee range without a leap means that I'm both focus-starved (short of 3 from leap and 4 from free blade-storm), and don't get my temporary 20% incoming dmg reduction and immunity to cc. Can't you use Force Push to get him out of cover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thatius Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 This is about snipers and their fail again GOOD OPPONENTS(cuz everyone can kill a noob that runs around like a chicken) Sniper vs marauder/jugg/assassin=They open 50% MORE delfect chance and anihilate us since we cant do any damage to them since even ROOTS get deflected and they break flashbang sniper vs sorcerer= sorcerer dots us to death and goes to los while we have on heals or cleanse to survive... Following them is pointless since by 75% chance it means we are going to die because behind that los there are more enemies or someone will help him... therefore killing the sorcerer is impossible sniper vs powertech= huge migitation therefore our damage is cut in half while he has elemental damage that bypasses the normal defense... Plus if he is a tank he gets shiled that reduces the damage of our sniper attacks EVEN MORE sniper vs tracer spammer=Only thing we can win due to ranged interrupt and cover ranged efense although...plus tracer spamers arent the best of players so it isnt rly a good match for balance... Sniper vs operative=Dead in the first few seconds since our melee defenses are 0 and he can dodge our stupid physical attacks and avoid heavy hitting blows like ambush and no, lethality is useless against opponents who can dispell.... Thank you bioware for creating yet another very balanced class because you have 0 pvp knowledge Why do you care? Didn't you delete your level 50 Sniper? http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=303178 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmana Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Hi, my name is kmana and I like to exaggerate a lot on PvP forums. I'm all for mocking noobs who need to L2P their class, but FB lasts for 8 seconds (standard) and ends on damage, our 2 roots last for 2-5 and end on damage (one of which requires cover), and orbital strike *********** blows against anyone who actually knows what they're doing. But you're right. We do a ******** of damage. Aside from that, keep your awkwardly large trolly numbers off of my forums. Yeah, cause having 4 or so moves that can stop a guy in his tracks isn't a lot. Way to spot that troll, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmy_DB Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Can't you use Force Push to get him out of cover? and b. Stuns/push are off-cd so I ca get him out of cover). : TL;DR - all depends on what cd's are up. But usually takes using a few of them and a bit of luck/support to get a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SicNNasty Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Can't you use Force Push to get him out of cover? If the Guards CDs are up, then assume the Snipers are as well, and he will use entrench making his immune to CC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labradoraki Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 If the Guards CDs are up, then assume the Snipers are as well, and he will use entrench making his immune to CC. thenu just use los and laught because snipers are up against los which makes them useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SicNNasty Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) thenu just use los and laught because snipers are up against los which makes them useless And if he is playing with your LoS and you are well placed for the objectif that your team is trying to accomplish, you have a small victory. Since when is killing your opponent the only way to acheive victory? As a sniper your role is the exact same role as those held by Marksmen (or is it sharpshooters?) in modern day warfare: holding a position. So long as your LoS covers anything of importance, anybody leaving that line of sight is failing to accomplish what needs to be done. Special Tatics as WhiteRa would say Edited February 21, 2012 by SicNNasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labradoraki Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 And if he is playing with your LoS and you are well placed for the objectif that your team is trying to accomplish, you have a small victory. Since when is killing your opponent the only way to acheive victory? As a sniper your role is the exact same role as those held by Marksmen (or is it sharpshooters?) in modern day warfare: holding a position. So long as your LoS covers anything of importance, anybody leaving that line of sight is failing to accomplish what needs to be done. Special Tatics as WhiteRa would say sorry but this is about class balance, tactics are not in it so they shouldnt be used as an argument for balance between classes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adzzy Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Removing them from self cover when stunned probably needs to be fixed, might solve some problems, maybe not enough, i dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotland Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 not another one of these Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digtahk Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Snipers are without doubt the most under-represented adv class in the highest level of pvp. The nature of the pvp is such that mobility is the key to winning. The cover mechanism does not work half the time with them being knocked out of cover despite using entrench. Having stuns are too unreliable in this game as an escape mechanism......they need some form of damage mitigation. Its all very well saying melee should win in melee range but Snipers really are a free kill with no chance of escape. Some form of disengage mechanism would help them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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