DuSStyBottoms Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamLKvist Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Long overdue. Two deliverance @ 1.4 sec + force potency (not to mention relic/adrenal) = 10k+ Not intended and lowering the skillcap of the healing aspect of the class! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dystopic Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 We'll see how it turns out. Using adrenals was a bit much. Most people will probably just rejuv->deliv->healing trance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncommonname Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I wonder if this change will mean that benevolence has an actual use again. I agree that the new priority system will probably be Rejuv --> Deliverance --> healing trance (assuming the particular sage has enough crit chance). However, in situations where that rotation is not enough to top people off, and rejuv is still on cooldown, will people be more inclined to go for another 2.x deliverance or a 1.5 (costly) benevolence? Curious what other sages are thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uwmpanther Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Level 50 Seer here, and I'm totally fine with it. Sages are awesome healers, and don't need to rely on this move in order to be highly effective. Maybe now people can QQ a little less about us and move on. Also, I won't be putting Benevolence back on my tool bar because of this. I came to the conclusion it didn't add value to a level 50 Seer rotation before I knew about the Conveyance double-up, and I still feel the same way now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dystopic Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 I wonder if this change will mean that benevolence has an actual use again. I agree that the new priority system will probably be Rejuv --> Deliverance --> healing trance (assuming the particular sage has enough crit chance). However, in situations where that rotation is not enough to top people off, and rejuv is still on cooldown, will people be more inclined to go for another 2.x deliverance or a 1.5 (costly) benevolence? Curious what other sages are thinking. In PVE I sometimes use benevolence with the rejuv buff because of it's reduced cost. In PVP I use benevolence as interrupt bait. But other than that, it just doesn't do enough to justify using it. So, if conveyance will only effect one heal and you can't 1.5 sec deliv-> 1/2 cost benev I don't really see if replacing healing trance. Even if you can do that, Why would you use benev anyways? Healing trance is instant and does more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncommonname Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 In PVE I sometimes use benevolence with the rejuv buff because of it's reduced cost. In PVP I use benevolence as interrupt bait. But other than that, it just doesn't do enough to justify using it. So, if conveyance will only effect one heal and you can't 1.5 sec deliv-> 1/2 cost benev I don't really see if replacing healing trance. Even if you can do that, Why would you use benev anyways? Healing trance is instant and does more. The situation I am thinking of would be you have used rejuv + deliverance and then healing trance. Hit noble sac. Rejuv and healing trance are now on cool down for a few more seconds. Your target needs more healing - do you use a cheap heal costing 2.7(adjusting for alacrity) or a 1.5(adjusting for alacrity). I am starting to think this is when benevolence will be useful, as a 2.(lets say 2) heal is just too long in certain ops encounters. Of course sometimes you might have time to use that 2.2 second cast heal but I am betting (especially in hard/nightmare) you just dont have the time. After benev is used, rejuv and heal trance should be back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eNcFireWraith Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Benevolence is useful in PvP to draw interrupts, especially if you have multiple interrupters. If I have two Marauders on me, I cast Benevolence so that they interrupt it. Otherwise they'll lock out Healing Trance and Deliverance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MariLupus Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 My rotation tends to be healing trance, rejuvinate, deliverance (if a big heal is neaded or salvation) and finaly noble sacrafice if resplendance trigered which is most times (have a crit chance of 35% so prety much garentied with the four ticks on healing trance). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khadroth Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Level 50 Seer here, and I'm totally fine with it. Sages are awesome healers, and don't need to rely on this move in order to be highly effective. Maybe now people can QQ a little less about us and move on. Also, I won't be putting Benevolence back on my tool bar because of this. I came to the conclusion it didn't add value to a level 50 Seer rotation before I knew about the Conveyance double-up, and I still feel the same way now. If they're changing the game mechanics to prevent all double dipping then it's honestly a bigger nerf to the DPS sages, some of whom benefited from double psychic projection procs quite frequently. It brings hybrid specs much more in line with their full tree counterparts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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