Propanelgen Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 The Warzones was made better by giving the level 50s their own brackets. However, there is one other issue that is as bad as Battlemaster geared lvl 50s fighting lowlevels, and thats premades vs randoms. There is just no point trying to fight a group set up with healers/tanks/dps as randoms. The queues should be seperate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMikesta Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 While I agree with you on principle, I don't think you realize what doing this will do to low pop server queue times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piriste Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 (edited) While I agree with you on principle, I don't think you realize what doing this will do to low pop server queue times. low population servers are completely different problem on it's own. You shouldnt mix problems, you should solve them separately. The servers need to be merged, free transfer should be given to players. The low population servers are horrible to play on in all aspects. Edited February 12, 2012 by Piriste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CupieFoxtail Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 low population servers are completely different problem on it's own. Well, as of right this moment, there are no light pop servers Light pop times, maybe, but I'm not so sure that in and of itself is enough to warrant cross server warzones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maradigamer Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Supposedly they will implement cross server warzones at some point. Even if premades and pugs are not completely separated after that, the variety of games and the likelihood of running into a full sync-queue premade or the same premade day after day will be much lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMikesta Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 low population servers are completely different problem on it's own. You shouldnt mix problems, you should solve them separately. The servers need to be merged, free transfer should be given to players. The low population servers are horrible to play on in all aspects. Well, its a separate problem, but one that will directly affect this change. No ones mixing problems, but the low pop problem is going to affect the seperate queue for premades, and cause an entirely new problem. The solutions for low pop servers are irrelevant, and not the topic at hand. The topic is separate queues for premades, and this will cause horribly long queues on low pop servers... period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CupieFoxtail Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 The majority of premades will filter out to rated PvP once that is released Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piriste Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 (edited) The solutions for low pop servers are irrelevant, and not the topic at hand. The topic is separate queues for premades, and this will cause horribly long queues on low pop servers... period. Yes, my point was that they should fix BOTH problems instead of letting things be like they are now. Mixing premades with solo queues is horrible. The point is not to faceroll people. The point of premades is to provide people who want challenge with coordinated team oriented pvp. Edited February 12, 2012 by Piriste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venothrax Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 op is completely right there is nothing more frustrating then being put up against a premade team over and over again, im not a amazing pvp player but im not a bad one there is just no way to compete with a team that knows before the game starts how there going to work together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirCruCial Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 They probably wont allow free transfers to help out servers until after the 1.2 patch anyways. I am pretty sure after the 1.2 patch, if it isnt flawless, there will be a lot of people quitting this game anyways and have to allow server transfers again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMikesta Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Yes, my point was that they should fix BOTH problems instead of letting things be like they are now. Mixing premades with solo queues is horrible. The point is not to faceroll people. The point of premades is to provide people who want challenge with coordinated team oriented pvp. Well obviously they should fix both problems. I mean.. they should fix every single problem that exists. But as it stands currently, separating the queues for premades will ruin queue times on low pop servers. I agree that they should eventually do what OP wants, but they definitely shouldn't do that now. And i'm gonna be honest with you. The point of 90% of premades you see is to steamroll pugs to get easy wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maradigamer Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Don't get me wrong, in a perfect world they would be separated. But if the vast majority of games had a four person premade on one side and a four person on the other and the rest randoms your win rate would theoretically still be 50/50, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laoi Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 The Warzones was made better by giving the level 50s their own brackets. However, there is one other issue that is as bad as Battlemaster geared lvl 50s fighting lowlevels, and thats premades vs randoms. There is just no point trying to fight a group set up with healers/tanks/dps as randoms. The queues should be seperate! why? i enjoy ripping through all these bad premades. very rarely u see one that actually knows what they are doing and if ur randoms are not completely utter garbage u can win vs them too. ill admit alot of times the randoms are completely utter garbage but even then u can have some fun by picking some guy in the premade like f.e. the healer and kill him over and over and over again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maradigamer Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 why? i enjoy ripping through all these bad premades. very rarely u see one that actually knows what they are doing and if ur randoms are not completely utter garbage u can win vs them too. ill admit alot of times the randoms are completely utter garbage but even then u can have some fun by picking some guy in the premade like f.e. the healer and kill him over and over and over again The randoms I've been in today couldn't win against drunk chimpanzee clickers. In fact, I'm pretty sure some of them were drunk chimpanzee clickers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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