Legonin Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Okay so I have just a few complaints with this tree so far from what I have played of it. Its nothing really bad just a few things that don't coincide with each other. 1: Ionic Accelerator - Should not have Stick Strike in the talent. There is no reason for it, beings that this is the range oriented spec. It could be changed into Hammer Shot that once full talented gives you a 15% chance, instead of Stock Strike giving you a 45% chance. 2: There needs to be a talent in this tree which ups the range if Ion Pulse to 20m. It would give us a lot more mobility and it could be added into one of the upper tier talents that you would for sure be taking anyways so that you aren't losing any critical talents to increase the range of Ion Shot. 3: High Friction Bolts - This talent in general I think is good except for the fact that it refreshes Plasma Cell's burn which is just worthless in regards that just about every single ability we have can apply that dot. 3a: It should however refresh Incendiary Round's dot. It would go along with that a lot more fluidly refreshing a high cost dot with a 18s timer on it, then a dot that can be applied by everything with a 6s timer on it. That is the only issues I have seen so far, and will update more if I see more. I really love this class and spec, I just feel that it needs a tiny bit more tweaking and it will be perfect. Any and all constructive input would be much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetflair Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 More CC on this tree since there is little defense for this talent tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therealkoop Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Assault still has the best damage and range of the specs, I think its okay. Ionic accelerator working off of hammershot? That would be so crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearnicious Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) I'm sorry, but hinging Ionic Accelerator on Hammer Shot would just be moronic. Hammer Shot sucks, I only use it to manage my ammo. The way it is currently set up gives us more incentive/reward for using a high damage ability like Stock Strike, not an ability we just use to manage ammo consumption. And wanting Ion Pulse to be pushed out to 20m? Can you say balance issues? Besides, 10m Ion Pulse makes it easier to drop into 4m range for a Stock Strike. However, I think it does make sense that High Friction Bolts should refresh the cooldown on Incindiary Round's dot...I mean, it's a BURN effect, right? I dunno 18s is a pretty long time, maybe if it just added 6s to the duration? Edited January 23, 2012 by Pearnicious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legonin Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) I'm sorry, but hinging Ionic Accelerator on Hammer Shot would just be moronic. Hammer Shot sucks, I only use it to manage my ammo. The way it is currently set up gives us more incentive/reward for using a high damage ability like Stock Strike, not an ability we just use to manage ammo consumption. And wanting Ion Pulse to be pushed out to 20m? Can you say balance issues? Besides, 10m Ion Pulse makes it easier to drop into 4m range for a Stock Strike. However, I think it does make sense that High Friction Bolts should refresh the cooldown on Incindiary Round's dot...I mean, it's a BURN effect, right? I dunno 18s is a pretty long time, maybe if it just added 6s to the duration? I don't think that Hammer Shot would be moronic simply the fact that you do only use it for ammo management, and with a small enough % to proc it off of Hammer Shot to not make it OP while still making it worth while would help us have a more consistent DPS. Ion Pulse as it is, is honestly a little OP I agree. However it can be reworked for each tree to make it work for that tree not just have it the same across the board. However in my opinion it is moronic for them to have even considered having Stock Strike any part of this tree. Again it is a ranged tree, it would be like Blizzard making Raptor Strike part of the Marksman Tree's rotation in WoW. They could have put something better in this tree in place of that ability all together or just left it out. Yes to have a talent in here that would attach a 2s stun to it would be nice so that we could get away from the target, but to make it part of this tree's actual DPS output was dumb. As for High Friction Bolts refreshing the full duration, there's no reason for it not to. Honestly any target whether it be PvP or PvE that you are wanting to put that dot on you are going to keep it on the target no matter what, so it might as well refresh the entire duration and save that much more ammo. Edited January 23, 2012 by Legonin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flinkytheking Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 i have no complaints about this tree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
va_wanderer Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Okay so I have just a few complaints with this tree so far from what I have played of it. Its nothing really bad just a few things that don't coincide with each other. 1: Ionic Accelerator - Should not have Stick Strike in the talent. There is no reason for it, beings that this is the range oriented spec. It could be changed into Hammer Shot that once full talented gives you a 15% chance, instead of Stock Strike giving you a 45% chance. Honestly, I'd have rather seen Accelerator work with Ion Pulse or -Pulse Cannon-. It'd make more sense, at least thematically- and the multiple-hit nature of Pulse Cannon would mean you could stand, deliver, and then follow up with an HIB for good measure on whatever's still standing. 2: There needs to be a talent in this tree which ups the range if Ion Pulse to 20m. It would give us a lot more mobility and it could be added into one of the upper tier talents that you would for sure be taking anyways so that you aren't losing any critical talents to increase the range of Ion Shot. We'd be frightening with double-distance Ion Pulse. The kind of frightening that says "nerf me". Giving me that extra 10 meters when kiting would be too good for words. I wouldn't mind, again seeing Pulse Cannon get the ability to burn like Ion Pulse can with our Tier 1 ability. 3: High Friction Bolts - This talent in general I think is good except for the fact that it refreshes Plasma Cell's burn which is just worthless in regards that just about every single ability we have can apply that dot. 3a: It should however refresh Incendiary Round's dot. It would go along with that a lot more fluidly refreshing a high cost dot with a 18s timer on it, then a dot that can be applied by everything with a 6s timer on it. My only sad part about Assault is you can't stack DOTs, apparently. I'd love to be able to apply burn effects from Inc. Round and Plasma Cell separately. It'd give me more reason to use that ammo hog, not that I don't already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legonin Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share Posted January 23, 2012 My only sad part about Assault is you can't stack DOTs, apparently. I'd love to be able to apply burn effects from Inc. Round and Plasma Cell separately. It'd give me more reason to use that ammo hog, not that I don't already. Inc Round's dot and Plasma Cell can be applied to the same target at the same time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
va_wanderer Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Inc Round's dot and Plasma Cell can be applied to the same target at the same time... My bad then. More reason to Pulse/IR targets, then. Suppose that's one drawback to no damage log... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryowolf Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 From a PvP standpoint, the hybrid mix of ranged/melee power in this tree is what I love the most about it. I'd rather not see it become a ranged only spec, which is what it sounds like you want. To each his own, I guess. When you attack a melee from range they think they need to close with you. We just happen to have nasty surprises waiting for them in the 4-10m range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
origional Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Assault still has the best damage and range of the specs, I think its okay. . But it makes you super squishy you might as well run around naked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SensualPanther Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I honestly think this tree is perfectly fine. Now tactics on the other hand...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SensualPanther Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 But it makes you super squishy you might as well run around naked. ya but its a dps tree not a tanking tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
origional Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 You dont do dps when your dead dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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