Herring Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Seriously BW are you that thick? Remove the incentive for people to farm ilum and it will not happen. People are farming Valor for BM which gives the best PVP gear with high Expertise. Remove expertise and it just becomes ugly armor with mods not as good as the PVE variants. If you remove expertise the following will happen. - All customizable armor will become viable for Endgame pvp. - There will be less of an imbalance between a new 50 and an old 50 (If you can't beat a new 50 after pvping for months then that's your problem) - Pvp will become skill based! see above - When your upcoming ranking systems come in, groups and guilds are going to have an expertise requirement to even let you participate. And seeing how long gear takes from RNG it could solve a big problem in the future. Some things that could be put into pvp rewards instead of Expertise. - Rare Lightsaber Color crystals, (White,Silver, Ect...) Kind of like how PVE does it without messing up artiface crafters. - Armor that actually looks decent - Cool looking lightsaber hilts And all of the armor should be unmodded when you purchase it. This solves Player made mods from being nerfed and makes artiface somewhat usefull at the same time. PLEASE (and this is coming from a 50 with full champ gear) PLEASE GET RID OF EXPERTISE. IT MAKES EVERY MMO PVP ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEden Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Removing Expertise wont solve anything. What will happend is that raiders come into the Warzone and steamroll everyone because they got raidgear. Wont Solve the imbalance between a new and old lvl 50. And it shouldn't, people who put effort into getting the gear shouldn't feel like regardless of how much time they put into PvP they get nothing out of it. There has been talks about they are gonna make Purple gear modable so you can remove the mods and put them into another gear. Raiders put down time and get gear out of it, why shouldnt PvPer have the same thing? They cant let PvPers get pve gear since PvP isnt PvE and vise versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herring Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 Removing Expertise wont solve anything. What will happend is that raiders come into the Warzone and steamroll everyone because they got raidgear. Wont Solve the imbalance between a new and old lvl 50. And it shouldn't, people who put effort into getting the gear shouldn't feel like regardless of how much time they put into PvP they get nothing out of it. There has been talks about they are gonna make Purple gear modable so you can remove the mods and put them into another gear. Raiders put down time and get gear out of it, why shouldnt PvPer have the same thing? They cant let PvPers get pve gear since PvP isnt PvE and vise versa. Why can't people just play a game to have fun? Basement dwellers are rampant in these parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatchpointServe Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Removing Expertise wont solve anything. What will happend is that raiders come into the Warzone and steamroll everyone because they got raidgear. Wont Solve the imbalance between a new and old lvl 50. And it shouldn't, people who put effort into getting the gear shouldn't feel like regardless of how much time they put into PvP they get nothing out of it. There has been talks about they are gonna make Purple gear modable so you can remove the mods and put them into another gear. Raiders put down time and get gear out of it, why shouldnt PvPer have the same thing? They cant let PvPers get pve gear since PvP isnt PvE and vise versa. So make PvP and PvE gear equal. Expertise/Resilience is a garbage stat that was only implemented to make the whiny PvE'ers happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dystopic Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Removing Expertise wont solve anything. What will happend is that raiders come into the Warzone and steamroll everyone because they got raidgear. Wont Solve the imbalance between a new and old lvl 50. And it shouldn't, people who put effort into getting the gear shouldn't feel like regardless of how much time they put into PvP they get nothing out of it. There has been talks about they are gonna make Purple gear modable so you can remove the mods and put them into another gear. Raiders put down time and get gear out of it, why shouldnt PvPer have the same thing? They cant let PvPers get pve gear since PvP isnt PvE and vise versa. Or they could just update pvp gear as they update raid gear. PVE bonuses for raid gear, PVP bonuses for PVP gear. Problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackKerras Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Get rid of whiny people who don't understand game design. MMORPGs solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dystopic Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) Why can't people just play a game to have fun? Basement dwellers are rampant in these parts. I hope you're a troll. Really do. Expertise will make the game pretty much unplayable soon for new 50s. Edited January 21, 2012 by Dystopic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mintawno Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 or just make PVP gear easier to obtain for a newly level 50 (Craftables, light/dark side venders...(neut vender perhaps?)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kottonmouth Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Get rid of expertise. Exclusionary stats are 1 thing that could get me to cancel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellvaan Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Greetings everyone! Since we have an active thread on the discussion of Expertise and in order to consolidate discussion, we are going to close this thread and ask that you please continue this discussion here: The Expertise stat has to go... Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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