Complecs Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 In my balance/TK spec i grab the 2.5 and 5k heal medal at the start of every match, just use my relic and it crits for 5.2-5.7 every time. Now as far as getting outhealed by someone doing the noble sacrifice spam, it just isn't going to happen. It's impossible. If you're trying to get high numbers while healing you need to stick with the group. In a good game of voidstar(good as in a long match, where both sides are fighting very hard) it's not uncommon for me to heal for 500-600k+, you just have to be aware of whats going on around you, and be mindful of where you're standing. http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y53/falconsfan14/Screenshot_2012-01-18_00_38_34_031020.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aishiki Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 People who do noble sacrifice spam are mostly just bored as I often saw on Alderaan wz. They guard one side, nothing to do so hey why not spam heal ourselves. Then again, tanks can just throw guards on healers and get 3 medals in 10 secs, while we only aim for 5k and 75k heal medals - which you can get easily anyway if you go with the attacking party. If you play your class right, doubt a sage can outheal you by that massive difference... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khadroth Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Pardon my ignorance but doesn't force shield count against healing? No, it counts AS healing. That's how you'll see DPS sages get the 75k medal from time to time. That's also why towards the end of game I sometimes will tap heal for a couple extra thousand to get the medal. No point in doing 65k healing and not getting the extra medal after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyomih Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) ups doublepost Edited January 20, 2012 by Kyomih Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyomih Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) No, it counts AS healing. That's how you'll see DPS sages get the 75k medal from time to time. That's also why towards the end of game I sometimes will tap heal for a couple extra thousand to get the medal. No point in doing 65k healing and not getting the extra medal after all. That's what I meant - but someone in the thread claimed it doesn't count "against" was a bad choice of word on my part.. Edited January 20, 2012 by Kyomih Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khadroth Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 That's what I meant - but someone in the thread claimed it doesn't count "against" was a bad choice of word on my part.. Ah I see. But yea, it definitely counts as healing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wombatninja Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I play a 50sage atm with a decent amount of pvp gear (10.04% pvp bonus) and the only time i've exceeded 500k is if I'm using a lot of my aoe heal... when fighting over the central node in alderaan or trying keep up someone taking the door whilst stunning attackers its a good time to drop other than those instances I usually hit around 250k-350k per game if I'm productive.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanos Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) Tried "cheat healing" myself yesterday in Alderaan, I was guarding left cap all alone the entire match while my team mates were busy winning us the WZ by holding mid I'm in half champ / quarter centurion / quarter columni gear with 9.44% expertise. My healing is around 250-350k with a standing record of 472k in full duration Voidstar (SS: http://i.imgur.com/JGE7b.jpg) Overall i had around 155k healing (no SS to prove it though, slipped my mind to take one -.-) I got 5 medals in the process: - 2.5k heal - 5k heal - 1k defender points - 3k defender points - 75k overall healing IMO the only useful "cheat" is leaving spawn point with half health and before engaging combat (and getting the -30% self debuff) critting one heal on yourself for 2.5k & 5k medal. I think you have to be 50 for that though - otherwise you wouldn't be able to heal as much. Biochemists can't do that anymore though after 1.1 and nerf to Rakata med pack. Edited January 20, 2012 by alanos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reymundo Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Since you're sage is only level 26 you don't have Salvation which is an AOE heal ability. You might not even have Healing Trance yet. A higher level sage could easily blow you out of the water just because they have access to more and better healing abilities than you do. I wouldn't sweat it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyradius Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Ah I see. But yea, it definitely counts as healing. I am pretty sure it only counts for healing if it gets eaten up by damage. If it just falls off a character due to time elapse then you do not get healing credit, which is as it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabugi Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Yeah... I don't do this, and I get about 500K + healing on a good voidstar game, and occasionally on a really intense civil war game... If people are spaming their life tap just to get more healing done... they obviously aren't contributing as much as they could be to the overall game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Complecs Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) Just as a reference, in a good game of voidstar, this is what a sage healer can do. http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y53/falconsfan14/Screenshot_2012-01-21_01_45_42_152938.jpg 754k if you can't see it. Edited January 21, 2012 by Complecs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasica Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Just as a reference, in a good game of voidstar, this is what a sage healer can do. http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y53/falconsfan14/Screenshot_2012-01-21_01_45_42_152938.jpg 754k if you can't see it. That's mostly AoE healing though. Cast salvation in the middle of the melee group and watch the numbers roll up your screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Complecs Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Aha, if only it were that easy. The juggernaut with 700k damage is proof enough of exactly HOW much damage was going around in that warzone. And a good chunk of it was on me. One does not simply walk into void star and get 750k heals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anxty Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I admit to doing it just for the 2 healing badges at the start of warzones. The only way as a dps that I can hit the 5k heal medal is popping a surge trinket and getting a crit. So I'll do it as soon as we are unleashed. Then it's off to blow some people up and try to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khadroth Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I am pretty sure it only counts for healing if it gets eaten up by damage. If it just falls off a character due to time elapse then you do not get healing credit, which is as it should be. Yes I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtActivity Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 If i do it its usualy to grab the 5k healing medal. Othervise it seem quite unproductive / boring and a poor way to farm medals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruuprect Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 This is not causing them to top the charts...lol I regularly do 500k+ healing in WZ's as a Sage and I have never used the technique you are referring to. I see other do it and it is not worth the time or effort. Usually they are doing it to get the 2.5k or 5k healing medal, as it amounts to very little healing in the grand scheme of things. Are you assuming that because they outheal you that it has to be a exploit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruuprect Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 If i do it its usualy to grab the 5k healing medal. Othervise it seem quite unproductive / boring and a poor way to farm medals. How do you guys get the 5k medal. I am a Sage with full champ gear and cannot get my crit to hit 5k, even with the expertise stim. Do you need some bm gear to get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruuprect Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Any sages know how to get the 5k medal, i could really use it in WZ's. Is there some trick because my big heal never crits for that much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bthrawn Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Any sages know how to get the 5k medal, i could really use it in WZ's. Is there some trick because my big heal never crits for that much? I get it by having a high surge rating and going for the 5k medal out of combat. While out of combat the pvp healing reduction is turned off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wuschel Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Don't know whats wrong with those high numbers - unless I play Hutball, I heal 500-600k on a regular basis, without exploiting the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anxty Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 To get the 5k healing medal I'll tap down to about 30% life and then before entering combat I'll burn Force Potency and either my Rakata Surge Adrenal or my Rakata Power Adrenal stacked with the Rakata Stim and my self buff. I also use the time at the start to analyze what my team is doing. If there's one guy heading west on Alderaan and the rest middle I'll help the west guy. Look around for a good vantage point in Huttball and to decide which side to go towards in Voidstar. Staying back those extra 10 seconds helps me not be the focal target and get nuked down as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marTHCi Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I never heal in a wz match with my dps sage, but I always hit 75k healing and 2.5k and 5k single heal. 2.5k, 5k: Force Potency, Columi relic which gives power, Deliverance. In a full Champion gear it's easy. 75k: I never heal, but I put bubbles on my teammates. Demage absorbed by Force Armor counts as heal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiriensoul Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I healed one Warzone for around 414k. That's normal healing, not this 'cheat' you talk about. But i have noticed people start doing what you are talking about. But what do they gain? They stand at one location doing it, it seems boring. Why do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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