Devaztate Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 High end systems are reporting problems running this terribly deployed game, and to top it all off major fixes that are going out are tuned to a /getdown emote. rly! Warhammer all over again, you would think with Blizzard paving the way for so many years new mmo's like this one could have learned something, back to the real mmo kings for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElementalCrisis Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Thanks for your input. Out of curiosity, what exactly where you expecting? Please go into detail and don't forget to include what BioWare needs to fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devaztate Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) Lets see maybe fix the fact that 70% of the playerbase with more than adequate system requirements could actually play the game. The fact that a simple patch is starting to cause ppls hardware to overheat. The fact the game was released to early. What could Bioware have done? hire decent game developers? The argument always is well look at other mmo's on release they had major bugs too, yea well the last time a decent mmo was released it was called world of warcraft and that was nearly a decade ago. with all the advances in technology in the time blizzard came onto the mmo scene other companies have learned nothing. i mean for gods sake my melle juggernaught has a 3 sec channeled melle ability, where was the boss at when they decided to add something like that into a melle role. idk the game is def not what i nor many were expecting and ill be honest ill be unsubbed if this game isnt in a playable state by mid feb. Edited January 8, 2012 by Paralassa content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viewtiful_joe Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 lets see maybe fix the fact that 70% of the playerbase with more than adequate system requirements could actually play the game. The fact that a simple patch is starting to cause ppls hardware to overheat(....) bump!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConzarCR Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 70% Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eterz Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Source? brain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renegadeimp Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I think you'll find out that 95% of players are playing fine. It's a vocal minority on these forums that are having valid issues. However they're not helping anyone when they refuse to troubleshoot any issues on their own machines, preferring to throw around abuse instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devaztate Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 Source? ok well call it a guess, id be willing to bet they have less than 300k subscribers come the end of feb cause of a poorly optimized game engine. Judging by the sheer number of forum post about performance issues id say its closer to 80% of the playerbase having problems, nothing about a choppy unresponsive combat mmo is fun or enjoyable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devaztate Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 I think you'll find out that 95% of players are playing fine. It's a vocal minority on these forums that are having valid issues. However they're not helping anyone when they refuse to troubleshoot any issues on their own machines, preferring to throw around abuse instead. If thats true then id like to know what hardware these guys are running, u think ppl that play these type of computer games dont understand or realize how to optimize their own rigs for online gaming? Whens the last post u saw somone with a bad pc cryin about performance? they know their pc is bad thats why they dont complain and prob arent subscribed, the problem is ppl with good pc's cant play the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renegadeimp Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 ok well call it a guess, id be willing to bet they have less than 300k subscribers come the end of feb cause of a poorly optimized game engine. Judging by the sheer number of forum post about performance issues id say its closer to 80% of the playerbase having problems, nothing about a choppy unresponsive combat mmo is fun or enjoyable. just because a very small number of players are having issues doesn't mean the hundreds of thousands of players that are ingame do too. You'd also do well not to exaggerate every point you make as it gives less validity to anything you say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbrigade Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I troubleshooted by running the game at good ol' 1024x768, for a whopping fps of ~38 at the best of times. Is that what you wanted to hear? Meanwhile I'm enjoying other games such as Skyrim, Deus EX, and Batman on hi-res. Thankyou for coming, Bioware. Still, I enjoy this game also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devaztate Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 I troubleshooted by running the game at good ol' 1024x768, for a whopping fps of ~38 at the best of times. Is that what you wanted to hear? Meanwhile I'm enjoying other games such as Skyrim, Deus EX, and Batman on hi-res. Thankyou for coming, Bioware. Still, I enjoy this game also. i get nearly the same fps at 1900x1024 as i do at 800x600, their console gamers they had no idea what they were getting into when they decided to start this "project". They wont even aknowledge that thier is a major game engine issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeHUK Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I think you'll find out that 95% of players are playing fine. It's a vocal minority on these forums that are having valid issues. However they're not helping anyone when they refuse to troubleshoot any issues on their own machines, preferring to throw around abuse instead. I've spent 2weeks troubleshooting and I wont spend anymore time doing so. the games a shambles nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renegadeimp Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I've spent 2weeks troubleshooting and I wont spend anymore time doing so. the games a shambles nuff said. Hundreds of thousands of other people think differentley. Nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chassit Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 It's really hilarious to read these posts by people who can't even speak English. As if they have a clue about anything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkAislynn Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Interesting that you are complaining so strenuously but yet you just joined the forums last month. I have a mid-range system and I am AVERAGING 60fps everywhere except the fleets. Just spouting off random numbers like you did and not providing a hint of actionable feedback that will help Bioware, that typically makes me think you're a troll. As you speak about WoW, I was there when WoW first opened. Do you know how long it took them to fix things so the game was actually playable??? It was over a MONTH! Nowhere did I see people there saying "Well, EQ did this right so why can't you?" Yes, there are issues that Bioware needs to fix. There will always be issues. As for the level of subscribers, WoW is not liking the numbers they are hearing, which point to a tired gamerbase heading to TOR to check it out. Most of those people I have talked to myself have loved the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillbillySith Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I think you'll find out that 95% of players are playing fine. It's a vocal minority on these forums that are having valid issues. However they're not helping anyone when they refuse to troubleshoot any issues on their own machines, preferring to throw around abuse instead. Minimizing the people who are having issues might just be causing them to be abusive? I know for me it pisses me off when people just assume we havent done anything but sit at our keyboards and gripe. Your not helping the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eterz Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 It's really hilarious to read these posts by people who can't even speak English. As if they have a clue about anything... Do you really think there are only english people here? There are also french, dutch, and maybe even spanish people in this forum (I'm french) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeHUK Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Yes, there are issues that Bioware needs to fix. There will always be issues. As for the level of subscribers, WoW is not liking the numbers they are hearing, which point to a tired gamerbase heading to TOR to check it out. Most of those people I have talked to myself have loved the game. I'm aware there will always be issues. BUT an MMO to me is PVP. and when I join Warzones, see a steady 60fps get excited, get into battle and my average fps drop to 15. Its just not acceptable for a £45 + £8 odd monthly sub. I Will NOT pay for a game monthly that's unplayable its simple. IF bioware do what they say and by the end of jan have warzones hopefully ironed out I will stay on, its got the making of a fantastic game even wow when I had possibly the worst computer playing wow ever, I could manage 30fps+ In battlegrounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devaztate Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 Interesting that you are complaining so strenuously but yet you just joined the forums last month. I have a mid-range system and I am AVERAGING 60fps everywhere except the fleets. Just spouting off random numbers like you did and not providing a hint of actionable feedback that will help Bioware, that typically makes me think you're a troll. As you speak about WoW, I was there when WoW first opened. Do you know how long it took them to fix things so the game was actually playable??? It was over a MONTH! Nowhere did I see people there saying "Well, EQ did this right so why can't you?" Yes, there are issues that Bioware needs to fix. There will always be issues. As for the level of subscribers, WoW is not liking the numbers they are hearing, which point to a tired gamerbase heading to TOR to check it out. Most of those people I have talked to myself have loved the game. lmao when u compare vanilla wow in 2004 to vanilla tor in 2012, u just sound like a complete fool. The broken Hero-Engine they use has known problems but they are using it neway. u act like theres a reliable source out there for these "random numbers". its all speculation. which will prob prove to be accurate in the near future. In no way shape or form with the advancements in modern technology should a massive company like bioware be failing when all the groundwork and other problems other mmo;s have had are basically in blueprints for them. Console gamers tryin to get into the mmo scene will and is a major mistake. the playerbase in about 30days will prove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaaja Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I've heard a lot of the same thoughts, i'd have to disagree on the 95% of people playing this game are not having problems..many thousands of people have been trying to fix the FPS problem in any way they can, turning all settings to low, shadows off, even changing things in Client_settings to beyond the lowest preference you can go IN game. At first, the lag was..bearable, at the least. But as I progress, and keep playing, the lag has become worse running at 5 FPS. I mean, I have a pretty high end system..ran WoW on High with no lag most of the time, but I come to this and can't even run on Low without my game taking a ****. I'd say a good 30-35% of players are definitely having a difficult experience playing this game. PLEASE fix this game! I want to play with a high FPS like I should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renegadeimp Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Minimizing the people who are having issues might just be causing them to be abusive? I know for me it pisses me off when people just assume we havent done anything but sit at our keyboards and gripe. Your not helping the situation. Nobody is minimizing anything. Myself and others have been helping players right through beta until now. I can assure you that the amount of players who are having valid issues is nowhere remotely near the amount of people you think are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkAislynn Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I'm aware there will always be issues. BUT an MMO to me is PVP. and when I join Warzones, see a steady 60fps get excited, get into battle and my average fps drop to 15. Its just not acceptable for a £45 + £8 odd monthly sub. I Will NOT pay for a game monthly that's unplayable its simple. IF bioware do what they say and by the end of jan have warzones hopefully ironed out I will stay on, its got the making of a fantastic game even wow when I had possibly the worst computer playing wow ever, I could manage 30fps+ In battlegrounds. Yes, but in the warzones in WoW, when they first implemented them, they were horrible on FPS. Give them some time to get the Battlegrounds working and optimized. Only two of them were really playable for a large portion of beta, so they haven't exactly had them running for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renegadeimp Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I've heard a lot of the same thoughts, i'd have to disagree on the 95% of people playing this game are not having problems..many thousands of people have been trying to fix the FPS problem in any way they can, turning all settings to low, shadows off, even changing things in Client_settings to beyond the lowest preference you can go IN game. At first, the lag was..bearable, at the least. But as I progress, and keep playing, the lag has become worse running at 5 FPS. I mean, I have a pretty high end system..ran WoW on High with no lag most of the time, but I come to this and can't even run on Low without my game taking a ****. I'd say a good 30-35% of players are definitely having a difficult experience playing this game. PLEASE fix this game! I want to play with a high FPS like I should be. Nope. Not many thousands at all. Maybe 2-3 thousand ( which is still a lot of players) but definitley not many thousands. If that were the case, this forum would be flooded with player after player complaints. A simple scan proves it isn't, and that a LOT of the threads are made by the same players or the big threads are the same few players having a conversation between themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillbillySith Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Nobody is minimizing anything. Myself and others have been helping players right through beta until now. I can assure you that the amount of players who are having valid issues is nowhere remotely near the amount of people you think are. Those are incredible force powers ya got there, I mean knowing how many people I think are having problems ! Thats so cool ! I'ma think of a number between 1 and 10,000 and you pick it ! God you are good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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