BW failed this game from launch, I expect nothing less than that for the entire life of the game. Going from hundreds of servers and hundreds of thousands of players on launch to 20 servers and F2P in less than a year has to be the biggest failure on any level. They didn't listen to the community then and they won't listen now, and in the end it doesn't matter as something new will come along. If they would have backed off the launch day another year and polished the game, added content, and adjusted difficulty they could have had a better go of it. But alas this did not happen and here we sit. I for one have enjoyed the game, played 9 months at launch, left for a while, then came back to try it out. PvP is a joke for the most part, but hey I didn't design it, and still it has its bright spots and I am here playing it.

Once again spouting mis-information they have 1.3 million subs....

For some reason people look the WoW as the standard to which all games should be judged, because Blizzard did one thing correctly they catered to the right now generation and handed everything to them on a silver platter. Kudos on their part for taking the path of least resistance and doing that, but honestly I think Carebearing it also has the negative effect of making a childish and immature community. No one can deny that the WoW community is one of the worst out there, and I see these things happening here the more they carebear and give in to the me me me now now now kids.

All things considered it looks pretty good to me

Old Formula: 002.0 AVERAGE TIME PER PIECE BM (IN HOURS) 013.9 AVERAGE TIME PER PIECE WH (IN HOURS) 223.2 TOTAL TIME NEEDED (IN HOURS) 008.0 TOTAL AVG. TIME PER PIECE (IN HOURS) New Formula: 001.28 AVERAGE TIME PER PIECE BM (IN HOURS) 008.80 AVERAGE TIME PER PIECE WH (IN HOURS) 141.13 TOTAL TIME NEEDED (IN HOURS) 005.04 TOTAL AVG. TIME PER PIECE (IN HOURS) Considering 6 matches a day, a 65% Win Rate, & 100% Turn In on Dailies & Weeklies 001.45 AVERAGE TIME PER PIECE BM (IN HOURS) 009.98 AVERAGE TIME PER PIECE WH (IN HOURS) 160.05 TOTAL TIME NEEDED (IN HOURS) 005.72 TOTAL AVG. TIME PER PIECE (IN HOURS) Considering 6 matches a day, a 50% Win Rate, & 100% Turn In on Dailies & Weeklies

Easily fixed on the Dailies and Weeklies.... Again This is just an estimate and I think it is pretty close considering all factors involved! Updated to adjust for Win Rate & Weekly/Daily #s

XCELION (DIABOLIC GUILD) (THE SWIFTSURE SERVER) PvP Gear - Cost & Information NOTE: UPDATED for 1.2 Time Information: XCELION (DIABOLIC GUILD) (THE SWIFTSURE SERVER) BATTLEMASTER GEAR 12475 WZ Commendations for Full Set 12475.00 TOTAL WZ COMMS NEEDED 00120.00 WZ COMMS PER MATCH (WIN AVERAGE) 00000.65 WINNING PERCENTAGE (AVERAGE) 00078.00 WZ COMMS PER MATCH (AVERAGE) 00006.00 MATCHS PER DAY (AVERAGE) 00042.00 MATCHS PER WEEK (AVERAGE) 00864.00 DAILY COMMENDATIONS (W/ DAILY) 06444.00 WEEKLY COMMENDATIONS (W/ DAILIES & WEEKLY) 00001.71 WEEKS NEEDED 00071.70 MATCHS NEEDED 00010.00 TIME PER MATCH (IN MINUTES) 00005.00 AVERAGE QUEUE TIME (MINUTES) 00017.92 TIME NEEDED FOR SET (IN HOURS) 00014.00 TOTAL PIECES 00001.28 AVERAGE TIME PER PIECE (IN HOURS) NON_RATED WAR-HERO GEAR 28250 Ranked WZ Comms + 1000 WZ Comms for Full Set 28250.00 RANK WZ COMMS 00003.00 TRADE IN RATE (3 TO 1) 84750.00 WZ COMMS 01000.00 MISC COMMS 85750.00 TOTAL WZ COMMS NEEDED 00120.00 WZ COMMS PER MATCH (WIN AVERAGE) 00000.65 WINNING PERCENTAGE (AVERAGE) 00078.00 WZ COMMS PER MATCH (AVERAGE) 00006.00 MATCHS PER DAY (AVERAGE) 00042.00 MATCHS PER WEEK (AVERAGE) 00864.00 DAILY COMMENDATIONS (W/ DAILY) 06444.00 WEEKLY COMMENDATIONS (W/ DAILIES & WEEKLY) 00011.73 WEEKS NEEDED 00492.82 MATCHS NEEDED 00010.00 TIME PER MATCH (IN MINUTES) 00005.00 AVERAGE QUEUE TIME (MINUTES) 00123.20 TIME NEEDED FOR SET (IN HOURS) 00014.00 TOTAL PIECES 00008.80 AVERAGE TIME PER PIECE (IN HOURS) 00141.13 TOTAL TIME NEEDED (IN HOURS) 00028.00 TOTAL PIECES NEEDED 00005.04 TOTAL AVG. TIME PER PIECE (IN HOURS) THIS INCLUDES RELICS This could easily be seen as being on the low side for some folks on low pop servers. But this is just an estimation. Hopefully it helps some folks! Cost Information: Recruit (320000 Credits for Full set) [Must be Level 50 to Purchase] Arms – 20500 | Belt – 20500 | Boots – 26200 | Earpiece – 17000 | Hand – 26200 | Head – 31700 | Implant – 17000 | Chest – 31700 | Offhand – 19300 | Legs – 31700 | Mainhand – 38600 | Relics - 11300 Battlemaster (12475 WZ Commendations for Full Set) [Must be Level 50 to Purchase] Arms – 550 | Belt – 625 | Boots – 875 | Earpiece – 625 | Hand – 875 | Head – 1075 | Implant – 625 | Chest – 1425 | Offhand – 1550 | Legs – 975 | Mainhand – 1550 | Relics - 550 War Hero {Non-Rated} (28250 Ranked WZ Commendations + 1000 WZ Commendations for Full Set) [Non_Rated Needs Battlemaster Piece for trade-in] Arms – 1250 | Belt – 1425 | Boots – 2000 | Earpiece – 1425 (200WZ) | Hand – 2000 | Head – 2425 | Implant – 1425 (200WZ) | Chest – 3200 | Offhand – 3475 | Legs – 2225 | Mainhand – 3475 | Relics - 1250 (200WZ) War Hero {Rated} (2905 Ranked WZ Commendations for Full Rated Set) [some Rated Needs Non-Rated War Hero Piece for trade-in (Notated w/ *}] In addition these pieces need you to have a specified rating (Notated w/ {Rating}) Arms – 250* {1200} | Belt – 285* {1200} | Boots – 400 {1600} | Hand – 400 {1400} | Head – 485 {2100} | Chest – 640 {2400} | Legs – 445 {1800} NOTE: THIS SET IS UNAVAILABLE AT THIS TIME DIABOLIC

XCELION (DIABOLIC GUILD) (THE SWIFTSURE SERVER) BATTLEMASTER GEAR 12475 WZ Commendations for Full Set 12475.00 TOTAL WZ COMMS NEEDED 00110.00 WZ COMMS PER MATCH (AVERAGE) 00113.41 MATCHS NEEDED 00010.00 TIME PER MATCH (IN MINUTES) 00005.00 AVERAGE QUEUE TIME (MINUTES) 00028.35 TIME NEEDED FOR SET (IN HOURS) 00014.00 TOTAL PIECES 00002.03 AVERAGE TIME PER PIECE (IN HOURS) NON_RATED WAR-HERO GEAR28250 Ranked WZ Comms + 1000 WZ Comms for Full Set 28250.00 RANK WZ COMMS 00003.00 TRADE IN RATE (3 TO 1) 84750.00 WZ COMMS 01000.00 MISC COMMS 85750.00 TOTAL WZ COMMS NEEDED 00110.00 WZ COMMS PER MATCH 00779.55 MATCHS NEEDED 00010.00 TIME PER MATCH (IN MINUTES) 00005.00 AVERAGE QUEUE TIME (MINUTES) 00194.89 TIME NEEDED FOR SET (IN HOURS) 00014.00 TOTAL PIECES 00013.92 AVERAGE TIME PER PIECE (IN HOURS) 00223.24 TOTAL TIME NEEDED (IN HOURS) 00028.00 TOTAL PIECES NEEDED 00007.97 TOTAL AVG. TIME PER PIECE (IN HOURS) THIS INCLUDES RELICS This could easily be seen as being on the low side for some folks on low pop servers. But this is just an estimation. Hopefully it helps some folks!

Would like to see a deserter debuff or timer implemented for those people who consistently leave warzones when the outcome isn't going in their favor. Not only do they hurt the people in their group, but also those folks who have to go into their match because they rage quit. I believe 15-30 minutes would be good, but even better would be some kind of counter that ticked up as they abused the system more and more. Because we all know that they will continue to quit warzones. So a ladder scale on the timer would and could be useful.

Did a little work of my own on this: Hope its useful to some folks http://s15.postimage.org/lmjshef1m/image.jpg http://s17.postimage.org/kc9kj8vy6/image.jpg

Acknowledge the problem and Fix the problem its easy....

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