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No actually it allows them to do bigger badder stories for everyone. You actually need to sit down and think of the cost involved in doing 8 different character quest lines.. making all 8 interesting and good and having them voiced over ect... Takes a lot of time and resources and really isn't cost effective. So we end up with just ok class quest maybe just maybe 1 or 2 class quest line are the cool ones.
It's easy to say what you want and ask for it but unless it's cost effective, and doesn't spread your writers to thin why do it.
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A guild mate of mine did exactly that. He spent... a lot. But he got his best-in-slot lightsaber within days of hitting 50. His hilt alone cost him 5mil.
And in WOW or any other MMO I can go online buy gold and get my stuff that way..
Swtor isn't pay to win your guy just sold enough stuff to buy his hilt of the AH.
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If it was the size of any of the WoW expansions, i would gladly throw up to 50$ at them right here right now. But since it's just a pathetic small content update that was promised to subs for free and was rebranded to expansion, no way in hell not even 1$. I pay sub content updates should be free.
Have you played Makeb yet?
I would consider a Warzone update or a OPs update a smalle update..
A new planet, level cap raise, new skills, new quest, fully voiced questline, new gear, and prob more as they haven't released all the info hardly a small patch.
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Actually at this stage one of the few things that I believe will bring people back is more class story. I doubt what they have in mind for a space expansion will be good enough to keep people now.
Well there have been countless post on the space issue. If they follow those idea then they will hit it out of the ball park..
But they might screw it up. who knows.. But a good space expansion will do the trick a bad one people will go Fudge it and go try elder Scrolls or Arche Age..
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Oh it clears everything up, but you've just pissed off every single possible person already commenting and wanting your heads on pikes in the oh, I don't know, now a baker's dozen posts of more un-subbers based on your, shall we say, complete and utter disregard for what people want?
Oh I understand the layoffs causing delays. I may not agree at all with your nickel and diming methods of every possible game piece of the Cartel Market for preferred status players like my girlfriend while I'm subbed in. But now you've pretty much just single-handedly undid exactly what you guys were trying to sell when you launched this game:
YOUR OWN PERSONAL STAR WARS SAGA.
Not "RANDOM BLAND JEDI KNIGHT IN A BIGGER WAR."
Do you see what I'm saying? Oh wait, nvm, that would imply your management having the capacity to read.
I actually like this approach!! Hopefully I said hopefully this allows them to do bigger better stories we can share with friends with better arcs. Better to have 2 awesome story lines than 8 just ok ones.
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http://www.torhead.com/guide/leaks
Like I said it's possible since the expansion revolves around the Hutts and Varl was intended for 1.4. If you look at 1.3 in that link, you'll see a lot of it was split up and made into 1.3 to 1.6. That's why I'm certain Varl could be considered to be included with the expansion, but this is only based on presumption.
Now here is someone that reads all the interviews and remembers them.
Remember folks they said on the expansion page MORE INFO TO COME.. BUT don't build up your hopes and dreams either. It's a game if it happen it happen if not GO THE FREAK OUTSIDE!!
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It sucks that people leave but right now thats the nature of the beast. We have so many MMO's flooding the market it's hard not to have people jumping around to other MMO's..
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Another person that just doesnt grasp it. People ARE leaving . Theyve BEEN leaving over the way EA/BW runs this game. Doing the same is BAD. someone needs to hit jeff hickman in the nose with a newspaper and say NO. BAD.
I do get it and know people are leaving.. It happens with every MMO and that mmo release a expansion and they check it out again.
I'm not saying Makeb will bring people back. I've said all along a Space expansion with free open space will bring tons of people back..
the other thing in pvp reform.. Take a look at doing some RVR and open world objectives. ( which they suppose to be adding some to Makeb)
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Sadly you can't name a single subscription MMO that charges for content upgrade's. You don't find it odd that it went for content update to expansion? They changed the wording so they could charge for it.
LOL again here they are and all of these MMO's are still subbed based with a ftp option and some wehre sub only.
EQ, EQ2, AOC, LOTRO, WOW, SWG, among others. sounds to me you really have no MMO history...
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I've said in the other threads I expected to pay following the Hickman interview I just won't until I see that they are not breaking the game by:-
- failing to explain what they do about existing group content
- failing to further professions
- will further content implementations be pushed for those at level 55 only.
In all honesty if you don't buy this it looks like you may as well go preferred.
Yea I don't have an answer for that.. I'm sure more info will some out soon. I assume they have a plan but we will see. I would like to see the crafting profession all redone and made more viable in game. SWG and Vanguard had the best crafting systems in my opinion.
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Where did james say NO NO NO to Jeff?
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nope, still not seeing where he said he would charge for it, he said maybe look at it, ohlsen said no, they already split up the makeb patch into smaller bits, sorry you havnt kept yourself upto date, i still have these magic beans for sale btw if you want, btw what is jesus developing at the min i would love to know.
What (if anything) will subscribers have to pay for after F2P launches?
I wish I had a solid answer for you on that. We’re still in discussion about some of the larger content updates that we’re planning. Great example is the planet Makeb. We’ve talked about Makeb, we have a lot of plans around Makeb. I wish I could give you more details, but I can tell you that I think the playerbase is going to be really, really pleased. More story content. New and interesting things for the players to do. More systems and interesting functions in the game … I can’t go into a lot of detail, but around things like that … This is a pretty big piece (of content). It is probably all that I can say. It is definitely still for discussion whether we sell that to the subscriber or the subscriber gets that for free because it is a big beefy chunk of content.
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Yes I do, why offer it for pre-order when you aren't ready to tell people. PR stupidity.
Oh I agree man!! there are lots of things i want to smack Bioware around for but this argument is just funny and doesn't hold water given they corrected themselves in AUG in this interview saying Makeb might not be free.
http://www.swtor-life.com/video/the-future-of-swtor-jeff-hickman-interview/7112/
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lol like i said, if they said jesus was a dev you would beleive it. wanna buy some magic beans ?
Oh here a more recent interview that cancels out your older interview... Not there fault you pinned your hopes and dreams on a old interview and didn't update yourself.
http://www.swtor-life.com/video/the-future-of-swtor-jeff-hickman-interview/7112/
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True..I did read that interview somewhere. I guess we will have to see. But even if it does come out, we now know that I wont bu untill well into 2013, if even in 2013.
Lucky there are other games coming out. I am personally looing forward to trying out Age of Wushu;).
Yea I will be trying out some other games. Not playing Swtor even though I'm subbed until Makeb. Myself and other are letting some content build up before we come back.
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I've been around the MMO scene a long time and I'm pretty sure I've always paid for expansions. This one seems pretty cheap to so I'm happy with it. I don't mind paying extra for bigger content. You don't get things for free I'm affraid.
Well good to know there are intelligent people that still play the game. Anyway I'm done with this topic time to get off the crapper.. Wasting time on certain type of people who always like to complain on the interwebs isn't worth time outside the bathroom.
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Masks etc only go for around 1m credits on my server, not even half the cost of a single 27 mod, this is not pay to win.
The cartel market is hardly pay to win.. Your really stretching it with this post..
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So why haven't they told us what this is then?
Did you read the MORE INFO TO COME statement on the news release.
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No we don't know. The could $4.99 for the next warzone or op. I mean hell it was Ok to charge for a large content update....why wouldn't you pay for a small one?
It's simple man look at the content of Makeb and the amount of work it takes a company to make that content.
A warzone or ops might take 1/10 than man power.
Look at it this way Makeb very well might have started out as a free update patch 1. whatever. then they keep on adding and adding to things and it gets bigger and bigger. then they say this has some real value..
If it's the biggest planet they have made so far that is close to being the size of a couple wow expansions that have released too.
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Yes yes your right, everyone is wrong but you, the press, the interviews, ohlsen etc etc we get the point, in the world you live in you cant be wrong even when given the facts that say otherwise, good boy /golfclap.
btw just incase that went over your head, that there is called sarcasm.
You are wrong.. the front page that say Makeb Expansion proves it. Makeb is an expansion no a regular content update like a warzone or OPS.
Hold on let me check the front page again yes yes I see it.. Makeb expansion for 9.99.. Mmmm it doesn't say it's a content patch which are free. It''s an expansion which you don't have to buy..
You can continue to play the game and all the wz and ops and not have to buy it either. you will just be locked out of that area like 100% of the expansion in other mmos.
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Well expansion could be called content it's a simple mistake to be made. MMO's have mis statement all the time.
A warzone or Ops is a small content patch very small compare to the Makeb content patch..
so now we all know small content patches WZ,OPS ect are free and large content patches that we get new level,story lines ect are not.
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are you sniffing something, Bioware stated that content patches are covered by subscriptions, ohlsen said this was a content patch and not an expansion, on what world do you live on where subscribers and free to play players are the same ?
This is called an expansion not a content update like a new raid or WZ.
I would try and read in between the lines here and assume content patch are considered smaller patches like 1.4, 1.5, 1.6 which were a ops, or WZ..
A planet that bigger than any other planet with new story lines, level cap increase, and other things to be a expansion of the game. A planet is an expansion of the game not just a small wz or ops that is an instance in fleet.
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yes they are called expansions, wow has expansions, rift has expansions, this aint an expansion on any scale, its been stated by ohlsen this isnt an expansion, the only person saying it is is hickman who 2 weeks ago in the Q&A never stated anything different. So as for holding water your leaking like a bucket with no bottom.
You really gonna sit there and state that Free to play players and subscribers are in the same boat, pull the other on cos that has bells on it.
LOL you wrong most of the games with 39.99 expansion are just one zone. maybe this isn't as big as some of those expansion hence why your only paying 9.99 man.. It's not rocket science. Or is it?
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are you sniffing something, Bioware stated that content patches are covered by subscriptions, ohlsen said this was a content patch and not an expansion, on what world do you live on where subscribers and free to play players are the same ?
So your taking one interview where he might of misspoke and going on that. Do you have any idea how many of those 10 min interviews they go through at those conventions?
Also try reading in between the lines they pushed it back to spring to add more content. Maybe it that patch grew in size and it's not just a planet release.
But you guys are going off one interview where people mis speak and sometime are allowed too. No where did he post it here as official did he.
We deserve some answers to our questions.
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I would calm down for a few weeks. I think once Makeb releases we will get some information on some of the things we want to know.