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  1. I fought Vaylin's spirit in 2024 and won .... eventually. Here's what worked and what didn't. (As a someone playing the fight in Story mode for the first time ever.) (SCREENSHOT AT BOTTOM) As many have, I had a lot of trouble with this fight. Lots of online tips said ranged characters would have a harder time - and I was one. Lots of videos and tips were from a couple or even several years ago. One video in particular was full of comments saying they must have changed the fight and what the video shows was no longer how the current players experienced it. WHAT WORKED? PACIFISM! MY TIPS \ NOTES: 1. Attacking once and then not again... Like not at all. Seemed weird but had many advantages. Vaylin's meter (which at count 30 did that annoying force push\ overload which could throw you off the stage and make you restart the whole battle) never got even to 20 ... When I finally won and she was defeated, I think it was 16. (edit: that was a earlier try, it was at 28, as my screenshots show) 2. Staying by the torches at the entrance, by the broken bridge. Where the big green health thing spawns. I stood closer to the one on the left, not that I really know if there's a difference. Stood there after my single ranged attack as Vaylin hacked at me. Literally no hands on the keyboard at all. 3. The green health circles heal you, continuously for a few seconds - for me, even at low health it was enough to fully heal me. 4. Not attacking kept me from getting any damage reflected back at me. 5. Not attacking also (as least as I experienced) seemed to keep that also super annoying Force Slam from starting up. I was saving my break free for the slam, and when I literally went and didn't attack after the first one, to get Vaylin to come near me, she .... never used it. Again, this might just have been my experience. 6. It took a couple tries - the green circles spawn very slowly. But those few tries b4 I won were much closer than any previous tries where I ran around and actually tried to fight her. So that gave me hope I was on the right track. 7. The green circles hurt Vaylin - like a lot. Being close to the spawn point meant it ALWAYS both healed me and attacked her. It did get close, (hence the few tries to win) and a couple times I did get really nervous as I was at really, really low health - and then the green circle appeared, healed me, hurt Vaylin, maybe even paused her attacking? Again NO that it mattered as I was not going to attack her at all or move around the map. And I didn't. 8. If I had to estimate, it took 4 or maybe 5 green circles spawning to fully defeat her. So a bit of patience is good, especially with having t just sit and watch your health go down, oof. WHAT DIDN'T WORK (or help) MY NOTES: 1. Fighting normally or at least attempting to. Everyone said melee and not ranged was best to damage her, so I tried to stay close, inside her purple circle. Never got good results. Force Slam was horrible and even if I used my break free skill, it wouldn't be loaded again by the time she used Slam again. 2. Then running around to catch green circles, while fighting. I rarely got close and when I get catch them, they didn't heal me? Just stayed as a circle saying Memory of Healing. And then Vaylin 9 times out of 10 would use force Jump and I'd be dead. Yay (not). Okay maybe there's a catch for them, or not, but I just couldn't get them to work and heal me. Only the big one by the entrance worked. 3. Running to avoid the big Force Overload pushback skill. Maybe I just had terrible lag or something but I was moving in slow motion and even with 8 seconds before it's unleashed I literally NEVER got out in time except once. Not great to get caught in as it can knock you off the stage and restart it, or it's a big chunk of damage, and after getting hit, I always seemed to be stuck getting back on my feet. And then Vaylin's right there again with Force Leap (also annoying) and I'm instantly dead. Again. Sigh. 4. The invisible bridge tips - 2 different ones I read, and they didn't work. One said the first few feet of the bridge are invisible for Vaylin but not for you, so if you're on it and she moves to you, she'll die. Never happed to me. Other one said you can be on the invisible bridge and jump to a moved bridge piece, to lure Vaylin again. Didn't work. Maybe I couldn't find the right one, but the 2 I could get to (and by falling, not jumping) were either too far and Vaylin ignored me, or she could reach me with Force Slam and I'd die on the detached bridge section with no way to get to the main stage and the green circles. So I'd have to fall again and restart the fight. 5. Having good gear (or else). Some tips said make sure all your gear is at least Rating this or that. And don't be stuck with underleveled gear. Don't get me wrong, good gear is always good, I just found (in my experience) that it made no difference. Ok what I really mean is I admit, my gear was and is pretty awful LOL. I play primarily for the story and 99% just count on my companion to heal me, and just use basic quest rewards gear. Hope this helps at least someone! At any rate, I wanted to post this as a working solution as of 2024. If you try this out and it doesn't work, please feel free to come back and comment. I completely admit and acknowledge I'm not an expert at this fight, just a beginner that managed to find a way that worked. I really do hope this way I've found is a solution for other people's characters, ranged or not. If you try this and it does work for you (maybe with a few tries, as I did say above) again, please come back and comment to share if this is a solution worth promoting or endorsing at all. Thanks!
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