As above, you guys keep bringing up irrelevant things. Who cares how they were at release? That was half a decade ago. If you did it then, great. You have those memories. I suppose it's because I come from WoW where the content cycle means old content is largely irrelevant with new content that I don't share your views on disparaging players who want to do the content you did years ago To put another way, old content isn't for you anymore. You already did it. Already cleared/progressed on it. You know the mechanics and strats in every way possible. Progression raiding is as much about learning those things as it is meeting checks. So if you've already been clearing it for years, it's just not for you anymore. You're only entertained by half of it (Meeting checks). There's a wide gulf between HM EV/KP to HM ToS/Rav to HM GFTM/Dxun. There's nothing wrong with having similar tiers in NiM raids.

Who cares? Get on the Devs to release new, challenging content rather than worrying about if the content from 6 years ago is still challenging to mediocre players. There's nothing special about doing old content with higher DPS checks, it's still old content that's been done backwards and forwards and made even easier with class updates. Let those raids fall by the wayside, let "mediocre" players have their fun and the "elite" players focus on content that's challenging and new.

NiM should be hard, but the bolded is nonsense No one cares, nor should they care, how hard old content used to be or what "the raiders went through back then". That's completely irrelevant and I'm sure you don't apply that same thought to leveling, gear grinding nor want to go back to using only the abilities available to you from "back then". If you do, petition for a "Classic SWTOR" and see how long that lasts or how far it goes. SWTOR is the only MMO I know of that continues to recycle old endgame content, probably due to the fact it doesn't release enough new content. All that should matter is new content. People keep bringing up "Mythic" raiding in WoW but I can't imagine Mythic players complaining about last tiers content, or the content from over 5 years ago, being too easy. They really don't care because all that matters to them is the current tier of content - if people want to go farm the old content for mounts or gear, some of those old Mythics can even be solo'd, let them. If you've already done it, and you did it when it was "hard", why do you care if its easy now if there's new content for you to focus on?

Thanks for the offer Hey Cloake <3. Just transferred

Cleared all content in 2.X and 3.X. Moved Repside and cleared all content in 4.X with my old guild who seems to have disbanded. Recently returned to the game and leveled all 5 of my main raiding toons to 70, I plan to stick around for the rest of this expansion at least Looking for a Republic guild capable of clearing NIM content as well as the new bosses which I am dying to try

EAWare's "metrics" say players don't want new repeatable content. It says players only want to level, level and level more as well as simply solo story content. So we get 1-2 hour story content chapters a month, absolutely no new operations or plans for them in what 2 years, and now events that instead of introducing actual new content, just tell us to do it all over again - again. Us long-time subs, those of us who have stuck through these ridiculous content droughts and false promises, are being eviscerated here. These last 2 years have not been indicative of a company who actually cares what the players want, completely and utterly about "metrics". I've been a fool subbing this long, supporting a game that long ago said in no uncertain times they don't want me here, so I'm ending my sub I'll find my gaming fix elsewhere. At some point they have to realize enough is enough, unfortunately so long as others like me sit back and allow it to happen they'll never get it. Not doing the event isn't the issue here, it's the mindset that goes into decisions like having such an event, as well as the other "decisions" over 2 years Good luck to those of you who still have faith for EAWare

I was going to make a post about how this has been the premise of the KOTFE business model over the last year or so (Dozens of threads about this everywhere), but nah I think at this point, the community has simply had enough of EAWare's nonsense in how they treat their long-time subs/players

Spot filled?

If you really want to play pubside, just head to Ebon Hawk

Certainly not "Elite" accomplishments

Nice, 2 whole days Your guild must love your level of commitment Seriously... Nightmare crystals....

I can Merc/PT DPS very well and have cleared all content at gear level on both classes. I don't mind transferring my Commando and Vanguard from TRE. I have a tank friend who might be interested in the position. Times?

edit: nvm can't do tuesdays

Most of my post was direct responding to you. Sort of like, most of THIS post of yours (and the one before it) was a direct response to me. When you respond to someone, these things happen. It's part of why it's called a reply. Don't make hypocritical points, lest you forgot it all draws back to my direct response to the OP about what this server has to offer You're mistaken. The point isn't to knock you off your pedestal; I don't care. The point was to tell the OP in no uncertain terms that if he wants NiM raiding (Or objectively good play) go impside or a different server. Point blank period. You disagreed. I'm not talking about guilds that used to be here, the OP is transferring. Those guilds aren't going to reappear to run him through NiMs. So for the here and now, there are no nim guilds/groups pubside. The furthest progressed groups are 7/10 in Rav/TOS HM. You can fluff it up how you want to make it sound more impressive than it is or make excuses until you run out of 'em, but what you can't do is say it's wrong Achievement credentals? A raid group is validated based on what they actually clear. You would probably laugh at the idea of a Galactic Lounge prog group stalling on HM EV or SM Underlurker. Yet it's bullying and not constructive if I find it a joke the best your group can do is 7/10 with no relevant NiM clear. How are you "good" with nothing to show for it? Do you just wipe on purpose? Otherwise what are you basing your being good off of, a dummy parse? Running dailies? /hypocrisy pls I think what's hilarious here is that you're pretending as if you speak for the server and also, ironically, pretending to be an "authority figure". I said before I don't care about making friends. I'm here by request and the person who invited me is well in the know of the state of BC. If people want help or need it I am always willing to share what I know, but I don't believe in pats on the back for a job badly done. So "try harder" is the best approach and if you find doing that isn't good enough then maybe you need to get some new players in your group I really don't see why my original post is inaccurate or if it should be changed. If you want good raiding on THIS particular server, go impside. It's also more populated and has more PvP pops. If you don't want to restrict yourself to one faction and maybe 2 guilds for NIM capable raiding then just go to a different server (Ebon Hawk if you value RP though there are quite a lot of RP guilds on the PvE servers as well, which are the most populated)

I've been around long enough to see what pubside BC has to offer and my statements are accurate. Instead of taking offense to brutal honesty, how about proving it wrong with a relevant kill? (Nightmare clear or HM Revan or Cora). Otherwise it just looks like you're arguing for sake of arguing but we know the truth and I'm definitely NOT the only person here who sees this for what it is. OP was specific when he mentioned NiM raiding. No one asks for a NiM group and means a group that just pulls NIM bosses. ANY group can do that I'm not saying every player in said guild is the best the server has to offer but their top players clearly are, and they actually have the means to show it But I was wrong. There's at least one other imp guild with players with relevant clears. It appears to be a troll guild with a bunch of Kylo Ren clones (Renception) which could just be alts from another guild but they don't appear to run ops anyway, just pvp. Domination also has a few good players at the top Republic Side maybe has 1 or 2 players who transferred to the server with relevant clears. The choice is clear: Roll impside or go to a different server if you want good raiding Accurate if you're a nimraider looking for a nim group. Looking for SM or faceroll HM's to farm gear endlessly (Incl. 7/10 Rav/TOS)? It's sort of fine. Outside the 3 guilds you mentioned who else is even DOING 7/10? Maybe you aren't aware of life outside of BC but 3 guilds 7/10 and none of them beyond that is laughably bad, doubly so with nerfs and overgearing. That's NOT indicative of strong raiders. It's unapologetically bad. There's no merit in going 7/10 and arguing you have a strong raiding group. No moral victories in being the best of the rest when the rest can't even GO 7/10 The faster you face that reality and do something about it, the faster the republic side stops being a joke BC doesnt have it's own standards for what makes a strong group just because all the strong groups left months ago. The standards are universal. Top guilds clear relevant content shortly after release . Good guilds do it later, let's say a few months after release. Decent guilds are still counting how many bosses they haven't killed long past the edge of relevance for the content. No one would take a 7/10 guild seriously at this point on any server, even with the exodus of top raiding guilds from the game. Server designation is no excuse. Ebon Hawk, the only other RP/PVE server outside of BC for NA, had THREE 10/10 guilds in 3.0. Tons of guilds that cleared NiM DF and DP at level, a couple of them when it was Nim powered. They also killed Revan post-4.0 nearly 4 months ago. The PvP servers were generally low pop in 3.0 yet Hates You (POT5) and Failure (Bastion) represented well and got relevant kills before they transferred to Shadowlands and Harb respectively due to their servers dying The only excuse for not clearing content is the players themselves. You and your raid group should take that personally It's about building something that works. You seem to care about progressing in content otherwise you wouldn't be arguing with me now. I've seen members of each guild you mentioned harassing others for being noobs or bads and not being able to clear content. Ironic isn't it? Clear a few faceroll HMs and suddenly you're hot stuff harassing players who have trouble doing that then call players who criticise you for not actually accomplishing anything noteworthy bullies who don't have anything constructive to say for the server Swallow the red pill fellas. Spend less time waving your epeen around to casuals who can't tell a good raid group from a bad one and actually put together a strong team to clear challenging content and we wouldn't be having this discussion I addressed the OPs concerns honestly. I don't have any friends here I'm afraid of upsetting by calling them out for not being as good as they think they are like you do. You're really upset and defensive about the content of my posts for obvious reasons, but I don't have to pat anyone or any guild on the back or mislead someone looking for something into believing this server has it. Who cares if it's an RP server? Maybe I came here to RP and in doing so noticed that aside from the few guilds I mentioned there is no strong raiding on the server.

Don't be misleading. Inquiring about the guilds in question (Fights Well, Paragons, Murder of Crows) does not change what I said above. From what I was told neither of those guilds even went beyond 7/10 Pre-4.0 and Trogusaurus himself just stated that they are still at that level of progression. In what raiding community is that level of progression NOT a joke? Revan was nerfed and significantly outgeared in 4.0, still haven't killed it? Do you know that you're probably the only server in the game that hadn't cleared it? (Before Krayt did it). The guy mentioned Nightmare raids. I would think he wants groups/guilds that can clear them or successfully prog in them. There are no Nightmare-capable guilds on the Republic Side. Period. The few people I have seen with Nightmare titles and achievements got them in 3.0 when they were cake and even then their achievements were noticeably missing the ones that actually required a half a brain like Nightmare Council and Brontes. The only guild with raiders worth their salt is Krayt Supremacy on the Imperial Side (And true to that, they're the only ones that have killed Revan and have players with legit nightmare experience) Any half competent group can farm the Hard Mode Operations (7/10 Rav/ToS included). Don't be misleading. If he is looking for Nightmare raids, there is only one place to go (Krayt Supremacy) otherwise he should NOT come to this server As for PvP, if there's so much domination going on for pubside why are the leaderboards so significantly skewed to favor imps? Maybe you mean pubs "dominate" in regs with pre-made groups but no one really cares about what happens in regs now do they? Sorry if I offended but I was just a bit surprised. You all don't seriously believe that going 7/10 is good "progression", do you? There is a reason why this server lost so many of it's top raiding guilds. The players that stayed aren't all of a sudden "Good Raiders" because they're the best of the rest. Again, don't be misleading

Been there

After having played on this server over the last 2 months here is what I can tell you 1. WZ pops are decent. Not good, but not dead slow either unless you play during the Western sleep hours. The quality of competition in the WZ's is a different matter as usually you will get a team full of PVE geared players or others who just don't play their classes very well. Regstars are a dime a dozen here. This is definitely true for pubside moreso than impside, where Impside has at least one guild with good players (Krayt Supremacy). Pubside I can't name any 2. Operations you have a better time doing imp also. From observation and word of mouth no guild on the server is capable of clearing Nightmare except for, again, Krayt Supremacy. Pubside raiding was a joke and again no guilds stand out there as being capable of anything more than the at-least-its-not-faceroll Hard Modes (SV, DP, DF etc). PUG Ops are usually last boss lockouts by the same people all the time tl;dr unless you join the only competent guild on the server (Krayt Supremacy), just go to harbinger or if you truly want an rp server just go to Ebon Hawk

i guess Though I would assume the server's raiding community would know if there's a group able to clear such things among them, even if that group doesn't post it on the forums themselves. Unless said group is going out of their way to not be detected which seems kind of a stretch

You can say that about every boss in the game. Have you cleared it in 4.0? The burn phase is the fight. Always has been. Everyone knows what to do and when from farming it since the nightmare powered nerf. The RNG nature of the burn phase makes it tougher than the others. It's not super uber hard but it's definitely more difficult than any other current fight The others don't really even compare

Appendum: Revanchist prior to Game Update 3.2 (Which was approximately 4/28/2015) represented the pinnacle of raiding during the 3.0 content cycle. No serious raiders would argue post-3.2 kills as being the pinnacle of raiding. Just like they wouldn't argue in favor of Nightmare Brontes or Council kills without Nightmare Powered Buff. The fights are still impressively difficult for most players, but if you're speaking of the pinnacle of raiding, clearing nerfed content does NOT put you there This legendary forum beatdown came a month after 3.2. Just to give a little "perspective" The hardest fight currently is, without question, Nightmare Brontes. It is very close to being as difficult as it was when it was Nightmare Powered. A much better measure of raiding ability than killing her after said buff was removed and definitely better than doing it in 3.0 It is surprising that there was a server in this game without a HM Revan kill up to this point. That says a lot