and this is why pvp'ers shouldnt comment on pve imagine thinking conc is a burst spec in pve

the term "burst" spec in pve is mislead. Conc is one of the least burty classes in the entire game (to the point a tank will outburst you), so will lethality btw. roll invincibility is not that useful nowdays with 60% aoe DR on evasion. In itself rolling is a massive dps loss for con, due to relying on lacerates to refresh acid blade Besides the aoe dr/roll immunity (wich are the same thing) conc has the worst defensives out of ANY melee class (only Mercs have worse) with literally 0 DR spells. some of the hardest healchecks ingame include a&e, nahut p1/burn what exactly does conc use there? having self cleanse is nice, but its nothing special 6/8 classes have selfcleanse and there is 1 (ONE) fight where it semi matters raid buffs are hugely overrated with a whopping 0.1% dmg increase from the strongest damage raidbuff (from mara) and even among raidbuffs operative has the worst. conc atm is middle tier st if it can tunnel it will get heavily out dps'd by hatred/pyro/anni/leth even on just ST alone while those classes have: alot more aoe, (sometimes alot) better defensives, insane utility (in the case of anni/pyro) and often are even easier to play how is this class together with arsenal not some of the worst pve specs ingame atm??? and how is it not getting buffed?

yes taking all parses into account, even the bots is good xD vengeance isnt even close to beeing at the top of brontes? conc has: no aoe average ST second worst melee defensives no utility and is a 4m spec

man the highest conc burn parse is 22k. thats 2/3rd of what pt is doing and hatred is doing 26k there? and its a mid spec for that even. saying that conc is anything but trash in current pve is just not understanding how content works

why are you saying clock phase or fingers is the most important phase huh? BY far the most important phase of brontes is burn. Also the worst phase for conc, due to heavy downtime and movement (and the lack of actual offensive cooldowns)

yo henning, you do know that hatred has the best funnel ingame?

Besides the Ling and AP changes, wich are good (but prob not enough to change the standing of the class) these patchnotes are a joke. Where are the Pyro PT or Annihilation nerfs? The classes that are overperforming are left untouched, but the classes that could COMPETE with the OP specs (in their nieche scenarios) are getting hard nerfed? Hatred getting nerfed (again!) before pyro/anni is laughable. Lethalities aoe tactical getting outright deleted for pve (cause its now a big ST loss to use it) before Cut To Pieces (the most stupid thing to ever exist) is baffeling to me. Do you want people to only play pyro/anni or veng? Isnt the idea of balancing to bring stuff closer together instead of splitting it further apart. on another note: Deception nerfs are far too little (like 1% dps increase?) MM not getting buffed after beeing bottom of the barrel for whole expansion is also questionable. Arsenal buffs are also not nearly enough. Sniper getting a defensive buff for pve (cause it does nothing in pvp) while sorc and merc are still running around with a fraction of their dcd's no conc buffs?

MM is currently the weakest DPS Spec by far in PvE Introduction / Issues of current MM MM at the moment has the lowest sustained DPS of any DPS-class ingame, by quite a large margain. Even Arsenal is doing almost 5% more than MM. Adding insult to injury, the class also feels extremly unrewarding. The main issue with playstyle is that Laze Target (our main offensive cooldown) is spammed with little effect, cause Ambush does not do any real damage (as comparison with full 340 Ambush hits around 70k ish while explosive probe hits for 85k+). This post is there to give an option on how both of those issues can be improved. Note: This post is aimed at Pve mainly. Proposed Change: To change the above i would propose to change the LVL 43 choice “Ballistic Retribution” Current : “Critically hitting with a weapon attack restores 2 energy.” New: “Critically hitting with a weapon attack restores 2 energy. Using Laze Target makes all your weapon attacks critically hit within the next 7 seconds.” Explanation This would be around a 2k-2.5k dps increase (assuming a Laze Target every 45s, used together with Sniper Volley). Bringing MM right up there with Arsenal. Laze Target would also be quite a powerful offensive cooldown (that cant be spammed anymore, since that choice interferes with this) for both ST and AoE, sort of like a mini fuel. MM would still be one of the lowest sustained specs, but providing some of the strongest (not strongest) burst windows in PvE (behind pyro and IO). This would also be of usage during AoE phases since it buffs Suppressive Fire aswell as AoE Penetrating Blast. Thanks special thanks to Tarvec for helping with formatting and stuff