people need to stop acting like this is a fair fight vitiate was a strong sith but not one of the best and that's the difference between them . Sidious is called by many the best and strongest Sith Lord ever . So why do people think vitiate even stands a chance ? I never hear anyone say vitiate was the strongest sith or even among them . He used rituals and consumed the souls of other Sithlords to get his power . Sidious was just naturally evil and killed his own parents and trained under a master of the dark side . Sidious would crush vitiate in lightsaber combat / force ability and anything else . Darth tyranus called sidious a black hole in the force lol . And I've only heard from a SWTOR character that vitiate eyes where as black as a black hole . Not a black hole in the force . But besides power , sidious was a master mind he was behind everything from ep 1-3 even turning anakin into a dick and trying to turn luke too almost did too . But vitiate wasn't weak he turned Revan and malak to the dark side which is great but not as great as sidious plan of ruling the Galaxy .

Yeah people need to stop posting this fight it's not even close .

I didn't mean to come off rude I'm just tired of people saying the mmo games are stylized I know that I never said they weren't ? All I said is I wish and would love this game so much if it did have the graphics of games like skyrim or fallout 3 . I didn't say they need to do that or that I want next gen graphics people keep putting words in my mouth and it gets annoying .

Yeah I'm sorry just got a little pissed off been replying a lot this morning >.< but yes I understand that It's stylized I don't hate the game I love it . I would just love it way more if it looked like skyrim or had the slightest bit of reality in it . Cause during npc convos I can just easily get thrown out the game . I like to feel like I am in the game not out of it .

Your were saying I was willfully ignorant ? I understand that they made it a certain way cause it's the easiest way to go all I said was I "wish " they weren't a certain way . But people keep saying its stylized ,I know I never said it wasn't ?? But don't think all mmo games have to look a certain way cause they don't it's just opinion to say that . This is star wars a money maker and with die hard fan everywhere . Just think if they made the game with the look of skyrim or a fallout 3 it would sell like crazy . I'm not degrading the game I just wish they were like that .

well I said I wish they weren't as toon like. I didn't demand or say that the game graphics are crap .and I have respected others opinions they just throw insults cause they think I am degrading them or the game .

Well I can only play the game with normal graphics but I'm not degrading them .I just wish something's don't look toon like . But it's just a wish . Thanks for not getting offended by it like other people .

Yes finally someone who doesn't take what I said as a threat to their face lol . I love the game I didn't even critic it just said I wish they were better . And people most fanboys take it up the butt and attack me saying I don't know about mmos and and trying to scam people into referring like *** is wrong with some people . It's a game not your life don't get so angry over a opinion .

Lmfao ! How do you find me saying I wish the game wasn't so toony as an insult . You must find any criticism as an insult then which is horrible it doesn't hurt to question a game damn no one loves a die hard fan boy . And so you speak for everyone wow didn't know someone could do that . The games graphics are not amazing nor great you must have not played another game ever . Just do a run through any flashpoint or the first one black talon lol the imperial navy people in light armor look horrible their outfits look attached to their skin . Maybe you have a nice expensive graphics card but I don't . Don't get mad at me for just wishing the game had graphics like fallout 3 which aren't amazing but can make me feel like I'm in the game .

Ugh what's wrong with you people who think all mmo games should look the same I swear you all act so arrogantly as if you know everything I just said I wish it didn't look so toony. That's it . Your all take it up the butt and get mad cause your fanboys who act like you know everything xD

Lmfao *** is stylized your funny bro xD all that doesn't have to do with graphics they could be better your just making exuses for protecting the way it looks now .

I agree the graphics are better then most mmo games .but I just wish they didn't look cartoon like . Don't hate the game but npc convos can really take me out of the game .

You don't understand and so do the 2 other dudes who argreed with you I didn't ever say I wanted call of duty graphics or next gen I just said I wish the SWTOR graphics weren't so cartoon like . It's a wish I don't hate the game just would love it more if npc convos didn't look like a toon show .

I honestly didn't even know that I just started posting on SWTOR site recently and in my past posts I haven't put my refer link at all . And so I'm not saying SWTOR is more anime then WOW I'm just saying I wish they didn't make this game look cartoon like but I'm not hating I just wish .

I don't think you both get what I'm trying to say I'm not asking for next gen or call off duty graphics i hate the way those look . I'm just saying I wish this game didn't look so cartoon like.

Umm if you think think swtor's graphics looks less cartoon like then fallout 3s you must have a different view of what you find cartoon looking . The detail on what you wear like power armor and the details on a deathclaw are way better then any gear I've seen in SWTOR or a rancor or any beast I've seen .

I don't expect that ? I never said I wanted next gen graphics you all are just attacking me and putting words in my mouth . I just wanted to say I wish they made this game look less cartoon like even fallout 3 looks better and it came out in 2008

Hmm it really doesn't make sense people seem to forget this is star wars we are talking about millions of die hard fans they could've made tons of cash if they fixed on some parts of the game including basic graphics . I know they graphic cards do improve texture but I don't think it makes them look less cartoon like . Having convos with npcs sometimes can really show the flaws .

Really dude so all mmo games shouldn't have good graphics well who knew you made the rules xD.

You need to chill to idk why people defend the game like it's their God . It doesn't hurt to have criticism or just a opinion on something . Yes realism what do you want me to say I'm just trying to put my point out there that I wish it didn't look so cartoonish .

Calm down don't make assumptions .Why would I make a thread just for refers ? Enjoy life don't hate on everything .

The graphics aren't bad but just wish they added some realism into the game even in the new trailers for the fallen empire the republic character looks like a cartoon . Or the emo haircuts lol they make characters look anime . It makes me think they are either lazy and don't give a **** to add realism into the game or they were going for a anime star wars . If this game had the graphics of fallout of the old kotor I would be so in love with it .

It is seriously the only even match up of the two anakin is so arrogant you have to use obiwan from ep 2 to make it a fare match . Obiwan from ep 3 would win every time against ep3 anakin cause he had so much patience and amazing defense for anakins pure arrogance .

This fight would be close don't think so? I know some people are gonna say maul would beat him easily but no I don't think so . If a young Obiwan can beat him then I think anakin can stand a chance .

It's the only real equal matchup i could think of from the two . Would anakin from episode 3 just run over a kinda experienced obiwan ?