I bet koon is the best poker player in the council, he has the best poker face

I do, of course. JK this will be interesting to see how these two match up, both are my favorite from the PT era. I'm a little bias'd towards Fisto though. he's been a favorite of mine for along time. Dat grin will win this lol

I would've left the masters in the chairs just to make it interesting

i have a feeling we should end this at 12. the farther we get down thelist more and more candidates become eligible and we will end up going back and forth forever

This^ they are trained force users and skilled fighters but they only use the force as a means to bring justice. They dont delve into the depths of the force as a fully trained Jedi or Sith would. The Scions on the other hand are more comparable in force power than the knights. The average Zakuul knight is probably a padawan or acolyte tier when it comes to using the force, they are mostly trained as peacekeepers if you will.

if thats the case shouldnt vitiate/valky be removed then? he's basically an essence now, he aint really mortal

oh oops sorry EDIT: actually wouldnt that be a good reason he should be on here?

I'd suggest Darth Nihilus for this list as well.

whats the number cap? like how many are we going for, 10? 20? 12?

the same could be said about sidious as well, if he was so powerful the jedi shouldnt have been a threat

Im not confronting you or anything but i think i don't understand what you mean

How does it affect the rue of 2?

I agree with you for the most part. I personally didnt like the idea of Revan being in this game at all, alive anyway. Holocron or force ghost yes, but when he survives and comes back it somehow diminishes Revan's character for me. Revan is my favorite SW character period and i love bioware but there comes a point where fan service becomes to much. As for power levels of these characters, it really is no big deal for me at all, If Pt is stronger or if the OR is it doesnt make a difference to me.

Well to be fair the "established lore" is no longer there, Valkorion incarnation of Vitiate arrived after the canon wipe, and at this point Bioware and Disney are basically on two different continuities. Even before then the only thing that set Vitiate apart fro sidious was his skill the ancient dark arts, but he was never shown more poweul than sidious. Even now he is only on-par with Sidious. No one in this game is going to surpass Luke and sidious from the old EU. On a side note, do you really think authors and game designers are thinking of other properties when they use certain quotes and show things in their games? Lucas sure as hell wasnt thinking anyone was stronger than Luke and Sidious, because in his mind his story was the only one canon (which is kinda true) and even in the Novels set the PT era where they use the quote "one of the best of the order" for almost everybody, do you really think they were thinking "oh we cant say that because a game will come out ina few years with even more powerful characters" No they were just wrriting stories and added quotes to make their characters appear more interesting and powerful, the same thing bioware is doing. Dont get me wrong i'm not one to get involved in pissing contests between OR and PT anymore, but the "best of" characters of both eras are equally on par with each other

Would it be that big of a deal if Valkorian becomes as/or is as powerful as sidious? I fail to see this as an issue, other than guys not wanting their PT era and onward gods being rivaled by someone from the old republic