My apologies, you are correct. There are so many different types of Star Destroyer, it can be confusing. (Imperator class, Imperial class...you'd think they'd be different.)

I know. I just mention the second one because it was a later design, but still...either one is larger than the Imperator class.

So...by your estimate, the Gravestone is only about twice as long as a Jedi Gunship... (I.E. Defender-class Corvette)...I can kinda see that, though perhaps a bit bigger. Perhaps 250 meters...though the Thranta was actually slightly smaller than a Hammerhead. Still, if the Imperator Star Destroyer was 1100ish meters, and the Imp Star Deuce was 1600 meters, then you can't really compare the Imperator to one of the later and larger designs.

My thanks. This gives me a much better method of calculating the Battle cruiser's size...which also makes them comparable to an ISD. No wonder the Sith Empire and Republic fell so quickly. This also means that Arcann's Flagship is almost as big as a Super Star Destroyer. Now, given that this is an empire capable of building a bunch of micro death stars in a few years, (Star Fortresses), I suppose that is perfectly plausible...but daaang... New calculations will be forthcoming.

200-300 meters in length is still drastically different from the calculation I did, which was using the Gravestone as docked in comparison with a human. Can you do the calculation I did and see if you can come up with a different answer? Additionally, can you link a video of the scene you cite? I looked through the chapter cinematics and although I remember the scene you speak of, I can't find it for some reason.

Also, I'd like to point out that the replies here seem to contradict each other, and only one of them actually has a modigm of thought put into it...Kudos to him, btw, even though I need supporting facts on his assertion that the Gravestone's size is lesser. (Once again, direct known time and speed equals known distance, it isn't rocket science here.)

The Gravestone's size is the one I'm most certain about. There is a possibility of slight error if an average BT2 character is any significant amount smaller than 2 meters tall, but it is minimal. The Battlecruisers on the other hand do have a more significant possibility of error, as considering the scenes compared, the Gravestone's beam may be a different diameter between the two scenes. I was under the impression beforehand myself that the Battlecruisers were larger, however size in space can be rather deceptive without good depth perception...for example, in that picture that was linked, there is really no way to know how close to the camera the Battlecruiser is. The Gravestone is more doable there, since you can take the camera straight up to it and use that linear scaling down with distance to calculate the distance between the Gravestone and the camera, however I don't know how to do that. Suffice to say that how large the battle cruiser is in comparison to the Gravestone is absolutely something I would welcome help in determining...and I don't mean meaningless opinions based on speculation and what seems to be true, I mean a determinate, verifiable point of known size in direct comparison at equal camera depth with the battle cruiser. Best if that is a part of the ship itself. Arcann's Flagship on the other hand is at LEAST that big. If it is any bigger, it is because the battle cruiser is bigger, since the point of known size compared to it is the battle cruiser. There are beam points of impact between both ships in the same scene, which gives us a ratio by which we can convert our measurements to in-universe size. Therefore, if the battle cruiser is that big, the flagship is that big. Which makes a lot of sense given dialogue...it is pointed out to the Outlander that the flagship had the firepower to destroy the Alliance base with or without Arcann. Considering that that is a feat worthy of at least a few battle cruisers, I'd say that that is a big and powerful ship. Speaking of which, that same method of thinking applies to the Gravestone...sure it is a superior ship in every way, but the power to blow up countless battlecruisers and blow a hole through the flagship has to come with some serious size. Additionally, the numbers on Wookipedia were put there by me after doing this calculation, however I was hoping I could get some verification by other people.

Ok, so I just did some number crunching and believe I have successfully figured out the sizes of the Gravestone and the ships from the Eternal Fleet, and thought that I would post my numbers and how I came about them here to see if anyone can verify them. All numbers here are approximations, but I'm fairly certain are close. Gravestone Length: About 1018.4 meters Height: About 723 meters Manner of determination: This one was simpler than it seems. In KotFE Chapter 8 Taking Flight, you can walk around in the Gravestone's hanger bay. By timing the amount of time it takes for a character to run between two points a known distance apart, distance determined using the size of a character...approx. 2 meters...I can determine the speed a normal character sprints. (6.3 meters per second.) I can then run from one side of the hanger to the other, using the known speed and the time required to calculate the width of the hanger, then extrapolating that to the whole ship. With a known length, height is easy. Battle Cruiser Length: 804.3 meters Height: 903.75 meters Width: 433.8 meters Manner of determination: This one is more difficult, since they never show any object of known size superimposed in the ship. However, they do show scenes of the Gravestone's Omnicannon firing from the Gravestone, and scenes of the beam hitting the battle cruiser, so by comparing the beam's diameter between the two scenes, I can gain a common factor between the two. Since I have a known size for the Gravestone, and a common factor, I can calculate the Battlecruiser's height. From that, length and width are easy. Arcann's Flagship Length: About 3093.5 meters, possibly more by a small amount. Other dimensions based on length... Height: 495 meters Width: 1031 meters Manner of determination: This one was the most difficult to perfectly get. While there are scenes of a single omnicannon shot firing through a battlecruiser of known size and into the Flagship, which gives me a comparison factor, the shot does not have the full Flagship, missing the front little bit. Therefore, I had to estimate that part of the ship in my calculations, and it has the potential to be a little under by maybe fifty meters. Nevertheless, the same manner used on the battlecruiser works even better here...comparing the diameter of the omnicannon beam at the points of impact gives me a comparison ratio, and a simple ruler gives me sizes on-screen, so all I had to do was convert it using the ratio of the beam impact points. Once again, please double check my math and estimates if you have the patience, I'd like to confirm these sizes once and for all.

I unfortunately didn't get any screenshots of mine when I played through it, but I can describe it. It was utterly unfamiliar, looked very Imperial, had two separated triangular red eyepieces , was otherwise black and red, and kinda reminded me of that one Sith guy's face who you fight in the Jedi Knight storyline on Nar Shaddaa, if that helps. I checked my headgear, both in my outfits and in my equipped, and nothing there looked remotely similar. The gloves were themed similarly, and looked rather Sithy...the kind that has two antenna-looking things extending parallel to the arm toward the elbow.

So, when I'm playing KotET, it is looking pretty awesome...save for one strangely out of place detail. Why is it that in some cutscenes, my character is wearing this...admittedly kinda cool, but still...helmet? I first saw it when I was piloting the Mando Walker, and I'm like, "Ok, this must be something with the walker...I didn't realize it was me at first, but sure, I can go with it." But then I started seeing it in other scenes where I'm simply thinking...why? And it isn't just the helmet, in those scenes my character also gets some different gloves to go alone with it. So I would like to know, is this a feature? Is this how it is supposed to be? What is the criteria for this helmet to be here? And most importantly, how do I get rid of it? (Sorry, BW...I love the helmet and all, but it really doesn't go with my Jedi robes, and it cancels the hood and makes it look weird.) Anyone?

Once again, thanks for all the positive votes, but more are required! More until the devs take a look!

Thanks for the additional support! A deactivated lightsaber stance, only activating it when you use an ability or deflect/parry an enemy attack, would indeed be rather interesting. Especially for those times when you want to unclip your lightsaber in RP, but not activate it yet. Nice idea! Devs! See this!

Everyone wants this...but why not take it a step further? http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=7762677#post7762677

Bringing another stance idea to this, also as an excuse to bump it. Most of us have seen the awesome stance Revan is in when he is ready to fight? Lightsaber held pointing forwards, body angled to the side? Doesn't that seem a lot like an amazing stance? Once again, support this idea to help us gain the ability to look amazing!

Thanks!